Re: [slim] Android Squeezeplayer over SSH?
bluegaspode;631044 Wrote: > Then generic connectbot will be the next thing I'll try. I talked about > 'irrsi connectbot' not working and these are two different Apps for > creating SSH tunnels. > > And trust me: I do have proof down at the network layer + wireshark > protocols that the irrsi connectbot tunnel behaves different to not > using a tunnel at all. > When a track ends, the connection to stream.mp3 is dropped by the > server (when using the official slimdevices protocol). This does not > happen via the irrsi-bot tunnel, so SqueezePlayer has no means of > knowing that the track is over to advance to the next track. I believe youmust be the different code/programs we use. Best to you! -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87655 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Squeezeplayer over SSH?
bluegaspode;631037 Wrote: > According to my tests with the irrsibot it 'works' as > - start irrsi-connectbot for the SSH tunnel > - start SqueezePlayer > - start Controller App (like SqueezeCommander) > - start playlist/radiostream/whatever > - skipping/scrubbing now works very well > > - but: everytime a song ends - you need to press 'skip' in > SqueezeCommander or alike, as tracks don't advance automatically :( > > Via WiFi or 3G without SSH tunnel you don't need this last step. > This is a bug in the SSH tunnel/irrsibot implementation. > > If you search for 'SSH' on the android market there are many > alternative SSH clients, I just didn't have time to test them all. > Maybe I have some time on the weekend. If everything else fails openvpn > is a viable alternative. > > As SHH tunneling might be easier to setup for most people, I hope to > find some time on the weekend to test all the other SSH clients. > > @jt25741: if you provide me with your device-id > (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.langlearner.deviceid) I'll > send you a free copy of SqueezePlayer for testing! Anyone else > interested in helping me finding and documenting easy secure > connections via 3G are welcome as well! > support(at)squeezeplayer.com Connectbot doesn't behave that way with Aoinline over VZW 3G on my Droid2...so I do not think the problem is with Connectbot. I am using the generic Connectbot. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87655 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Squeezeplayer over SSH?
bluegaspode;631032 Wrote: > SqueezePlayer buffers as well ;), so no problems via 3G. It just throws > away the buffer, when you switch tracks ... Although I really like the Aonline app for consolidating my music channels...I would give squeezeplayer a try --- but but what I read above it seems that it doesnt change to the next song and you must reconnect to stream.mp3 over ssh.this is not good? -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R -------- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87655 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Squeezeplayer over SSH?
bluegaspode;630970 Wrote: > > > When you use stream.mp3 directly one has to manually skip/reload the > stream.mp3 for the next song of the playlist to play anyway - with > SqueezePlayer this is not needed (also the buffering problems don't > exist here) under normal circumstances. > I have not needed to do this when using Aonline. Just changing the playlist from the app changes the stream.mp3 -- no issues -- and the next song always plays normally.The other value of using stream.mp3 is that all my FLAC files are transcoded to mp3which is great. I have not tried squeezeplay so I may have the same issues you describe with it. The buffering is a big plus...especially over 3g where network performance can be variable. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R -------- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87655 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Squeezeplayer over SSH?
bluegaspode;630766 Wrote: > Hi strindberg, > > Together with another user I tried with SSH tunneling using 'irrsi > connectbot'. This tool allows to configure port forwarding via SSH and > is really easy to setup (when one has a Linux server with an already > open SSH port). > > Unfortunately there seems to be a bug down the network route/tunnel: > The connection to the download Stream (stream.mp3) never ends (at least > from the perspective of SqueezePlayer), so SqueezePlayer doesn't know > when to start downloading the next song. > So with this solution one needs to skip song by song :( > We tried to analyze network logs, but didn't come to a conclusion yet. > > I didn't look yet if there are other SSH clients available that create > a better working tunnel. > > OpenVPN should work too of course, didn't have time to test this yet, > but would be interested of course if someone else has set this up > already. I've had good success using Connectbot/Squeezebox server. First setup the port forwards, then I use AOnline Radio App... to setup a "radio station" to stream from localhost:9000/stream.mp3. The squeezebox server streams perfectly. I control my remote squeezebox using SqueezeControl app... again setting up 9090(CLI) and (9000) in the port forwards. You can browse the library and play any song remotely. The only hitch is that Aonline does a good amount of local buffering (a good thing)... so there will be a lag when you change playlists until the buffer catches up. Over 3G...be aware that when you receive a call on CDMA/Verizon..you lose data connection..a bummer..so the tunnel closes.This issue is gone over Wifi, of course -- where I tend to use it more. But I have used it for a long trip in the carbefore I got a call to drop the tunnel (I am looking forward to LTE for this reason). For me, when I disconnectthe stream.mp3 just pauses for that remote player it will resume upon reconnectionkinda nice. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87655 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to stream music to your android phone.
I discovered the exact combination below after much trial and errorI wish I would have searched for this solution first as I would have been enjoying it longer :) Although I do something extra that may help some others.My Internet connection is Firewalled, and the only way in is via ssh. I use ConnectBot(free on Market) to setup port forwarding on both CLI and Web ports on my Droid2.Then A Online Radio and SqueezeControl are both simply pointed to localhost on the phone (127.0.0.1). These IPs never have to change, and DynDNS takes care of ssh resolution to my dynamic host IP at home. It all works well both over EvDO and WiFi, but of course requires the added step of securing the tunnel first with my password. This takes about 10 seconds. The only drawback is that if I get a phone call -- and am connecting via EvDO, the network connection is dropped, ssh session is closed and everything has to be restarted. That is until this issue of simultaneous WLAN/phone use is fixed (if it ever is on this phone). But I will not expose my server to the Internet directly, so this is a good compromise. Hope this helps some other folks with ssh/firewalls. Jim simon72post;500377 Wrote: > Hi I have manged to stream music to my android phone. > so basicly turning my phone into a portable squeezebox. > > I used the a online radio app > > http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-leadapps-android-radio-jjBx.aspx > > and squeezecontroll > > http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-squeezecontrol-wAB.aspx > > squeezedroid also works > > http://www.androlib.com/android.application.net-chrislehmann-squeezedroid-qDtp.aspx > > if you want more infomation on how to make it work here is a link. > > http://www.instructables.com/id/stream-music-to-your-android-phone/ -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
maggior;382514 Wrote: > I wonder if it supports gapless playback. This is the sort of detail > that is easily missed by companies whose core competencies are not > audio related. That will irritate the hell out of audio enthusiasts > that spend tons of money on this system. And how quickly do you think > Cicso will address those types of issues? Probably no where nearly as > quickly as Logitech. > > Yes, competition is good, but I doubt very much that I'll be pining for > this Cisco setup to replace my slim devices/logitech setup. We'll all just have to wait and see what this system really supports. But in the past, Linksys multimedia products have been very simply focussed as far as interoperability. If it is supported by Windows(like Media Extender technology), or maybe a Mac it is supportable. Native FLAC, OGG, or APE in the players would be a refreshing but unlikely departure and proof of a renewed commitment and focus. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
JJZolx;382392 Wrote: > I just noticed in the specs that it states that the three streaming > formats are PCM, MP3 and FLAC, so it must do native FLAC decoding in > the players. > > http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/DMC250 Page 36 clearly states what is supported on the player, and FLAC is not there (mp3, AAC-LC, WMA9, and WAV).On another manual it states FLAC is transcoded...just poke around. The system supports FLAC, but not over the air -- two different topics. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R -------- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
upstatemike;382374 Wrote: > Did anybody see hard specs anyplace? Maximum number of zones? Maximum > number of controllers? Is there an option for using wired ethernet in > locations where it is available? You can pull the other ones down under each component. Clearly it has Ethernet as well. I just glanced through this one without looking closely yet. http://downloads.linksysbycisco.com/downloads/DMP100_V10_UG_90102NC.pdf -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
JJZolx;381944 Wrote: > I've played around with streaming Flac as WAV/PCM on my server and can > easily stream to four sync'd Squeezeboxes while doing this (never tried > more than that). Typically, Flac compression only nets about 30-40% in > increased storage space or bandwidth, so if your wireless network can't > handle streaming uncompressed PCM, it's probably pretty marginal to > begin with. Wifi tends to be quite variable -- sometimes strong, with good throughput, sometimes not so strong.The maximum numbers for n/g/a are highly idealized and rarely even closely obtained. For instance... a microwave oven goes on in the house, the APs negotiate a much lower transmission speed during this time. Saving 30%-50% of the bandwidth necessary to move a file around can mean buffers don't deplete during these typical drop-offs etc. Granted it doesn't take much to stream CD WAV files around uncompressed, and if that is all you are doing it is likely either hit or miss. But once you put a couple PCs in the house on the same wireless network, a NMT streaming DTS SD Video those bits of bandwidth become even more scarce.Keep in mind all these wireless technologies are simplex as well. Even a relatively good signal negotiated at 20mbps compared to the state of the art network gear from 12 or more years ago (100mb Switched full duplex) giving full duplex 200mb bandwidth per station, the difference can be huge. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
No native FLAC in the player? Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the business of anyone who sells such devices :) -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Signal with (2) Squeezebox V1s
buck;263189 Wrote: > Well, I opened it up and took a look. All connections appeared OK, but > I reseated the antenna lead anyhow. No luck. I then removed the > wireless LAN PC Card and started the SB. I next reinserted the PC Card > and restarted. No luck. > Shucks. > Anyone else have any ideas? Does anyone know if any other PC LAN cards > are acceptable? Are they available as replacement parts through Slim > Devices/Logitech? > > Thanks again! > > Buck Wireless cards in these things do fail. I had a similar situation with slightly different facts. In my case, my 2nd SB had basically the same high level of signal as my other unit -- but was constantly losing signal and connection. I tested identical locations with the same effect.I sent it in, explained the problem -- and it was fixed under warranty. Works fine again, no issues. I have had many many 802.11 products over the years, and not one has failed.I found it strange the SB did in this manner -- and am hoping this is not a weak point in the product family. I have grown to love them so much, I don't want them breaking on me every year. So far my other unit has not a hitch. Anyways, suspect yours may be out of warranty -- so it may not be cost-effective to fix it vs replace it. You can call them, and possibly get an estimate? Others may have significantly better advise..so keep looking at this thread.Good luck. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42571 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 24/48 FLAC Spontaneous Trouble
Mark Lanctot;224853 Wrote: > Despite your assertions to the contrary, it really does sound like a > wireless bandwidth issue. Perhaps there's a new source of intermittent > interference. See > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DiagnosingPerformanceIssues and > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkProblemsSecondGuide > > Failing that, have you changed your screensaver or started using > ReplayGain? The spectrum analyzer screensaver and ReplayGain together > use up a fair amount of the Squeezebox's CPU. I should have known better being a network guy, of sorts. Anyways...although the signal strength I have had was good -- I must be getting interference of some kind, as you stated. This was proven so far by changing my Wireless channel to channel 1, from 6 -- which is also mentioned in the FAQ. What I think through me for a loop was that the SB was behaving like it was out of CPU -- sluggish and slow. This must be the way it behaves when it is having trouble keeping a lock on the stream from the net. Anyways, changing to 1 seemed to do the trick. Doing a wireless survey of my area, I do see another weaker WAP on channel 6 -- which is likely a new neighbor crowding "my" airwaves ;) Thanks again Mark! Jim -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R -------- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 24/48 FLAC Spontaneous Trouble
Mark... appreciate the pointers. I'll report back here what these tests come up with. Thanks again Jim -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 24/48 FLAC Spontaneous Trouble
Hi all, I have a rather bazaar scenario with my SB setup. I have for some time been enjoying about 10 or so 24bit/48Khz FLAC encoded albums(decoded on the SB) without issue. These are stored with FLAC 5 Compression(default). The SB has not ever stuttered or had trouble with these same exact files files -- with still relatively responsive scrolling and control with the remote as well. All of a sudden, to my amazement, these same exact files are causing the SB3 trouble now. What is happening is, stuttering and often temporary unresponsiveness to the remote. Looking at the server, I see my CPU utilization is <5%, as usual. Playing any of hundreds of 16/44.1 files still presents no issue with stuttering of responsiveness. All of a sudden, it seems that decoding the FLAC files is taking just too much SB3 CPU -- but the firmware has not changed. Also, no screensaver is on(screen is set up shut off after 15 sec of inactivity). Keeping display on/off doesn't seem to help either way. SB is wirelessly connected with 90+% signal strength (I never have issues here since Wireless AP is 15 ft away). I have tried unplugging and plugging in the SB3, plus restarting the slimserver -- both having no remedy to the problem. Again, SB Firmware has not changed and is still at 6.5.0. Any ideas in what his happening and how I can all of a sudden be having trouble just with the 24/48 FLAC files on the SB that used to work flawlessly? Thanks a bunch! -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24/96 PCM to SB3 not so good.
ymilner;195143 Wrote: > Yes, that's what I did too with those few 24/94 rips I have. I just keep > the original files off-line, waiting for SD to fix the firmware (or for > transporter, if this day will ever come:) ). > BTW, what do you use for downsampling? Hi Ymilner, have you tried different downsampling tools? From what I read going from 96K->48K is not rocket science and any reasonable downsampler will work well. I have used PPHS and SRC codecs in Foobar with success. For whatever reason, SRC seems to sound better to me...dont know why. Maybe due to its superior low-past filter to filter above the new Nyquist frequency(which gets reduced by 1/2 with the downsampling) Now going from 96 to 44.1 is not an even multiple, so rocket science is involved -- and I dont think any public domain(free) resamplers do a good job. r8brain is an example of one that costs over $70, but does a great job. You can seach on that if interested. There have been posts on this subject that have been very informative. The good news is that the SB does 24/48 native, so getting very high quality from 24/96 material is possible by downsampling and easy. I think pre-processing the file is better than letting the SB do it in firmware because the low-power SB implementation doesn't filter out the introduced artifacts by the bit reduction(no low-pass filtering). I think most of the perceived improvements seem to be obtained from 16/44.1 to 24/48 anyways(HUGE improvement)to 24/96 possibly is a bit overkill...open to debate I guess -- I have not done extensive listening tests, but some here. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W5 -> PS Audio Xtreme Plus(Low) AQCV4(mid/hi)-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34451 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to name an unnamed radio station favorite
kdf;172509 Wrote: > at this time, it is a bit of an awkward process of editing the > favorites section of the slimserver.pref file. Make your changes with > > the server stopped, then save it when you are done and start the server > > back up again. 7.0 is planned to have an editor as part of the > favorites interface. > > -kdf I have some similar stations where I have created a playlist(naming it whatever I wanted) with the single unnamed station as it's only member. At least when browsing through the interfaces it is clearly identified. HTH -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII -> Coincident CST IC XLR -> Sim Audio P5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W5 -> PS Audio Xtreme Plus(Low) AQCV4(mid/hi)-> Magnepan 3.6R ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31875 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Whats stopping SB2/3 to handle 24/96 Native?
The 1748 DAC supports it...is there any technical barriers in the design of the SB that are forcing the 24/48 limitation, or on the outputs at least? If not, it would be great to have firmware rev to enable it. -- jt25741 jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30348 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
Skunk;159239 Wrote: > You could try putting something else in the signal chain between the SB > and DAC, like a Big Ben, Digital Lens, Monarchy DIP, or Meridian 518. > Checking with local dealers (who sell used equip) might allow you to > try before you buy. > > A Behringer DEQ2496 room correction eq would kill two birds, and could > be returned if it didn't work. Great suggestion. I may just try the Monarchy or something like that. I have never used these DIP type devices before. I tried 2 additional DVD players with the DAC in the last day, and still the only issue I have so far is with the Squeezebox/DAC syncing.So far 5 out of 5 devices work just fine with the DAC, and only the squeezebox does not. This does concern me that it may be the Squeezebox(maybe my particular unit?) that may be marginal as far as digital spec, not the DAC.If I continue to have issues, I may want to pursue either an exchange or return. I have attempted to reach slimdevices customer support via email to start an official dialogue, but have not as yet heard back. Thanks again -- jt25741 -------- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
Ben Sandee;159113 Wrote: > On 12/1/06, jt25741 forums.slimdevices.com> > wrote: > > > > > > seanadams;159088 Wrote: > > > Looking at the internal wiring of that DAC I'd have to say it's a > bit > > > suspect - there are longish unshielded wires coming in from the > coax > > > plug on the back panel, and it's hard to tell how they have it > wired up > > > to the chip. > > > > > > http://www.tweakaudio.com/Resources/P4220005.JPG-1.jpg > > > > > > I realize you say it works with other equipment, but if the > receive > > > circuitry is borderline then it will be hit-or-miss. Probably if > you > > > tried some more CD/DVD sources you would find a few that also > don't > > > work. > > > > > > If you could post a close-up photo of that top left area of the > PCB, I > > > might have a better idea. > > > > I understand what you are saying. > > > > Everything is P-P wired by hand, except for some surface mount stuff > > under the board. The reciever is in the upper left of the PCB as > you > > suspected and it is hard wired to the jacks. Those wires you see in > > the picture are indeed the hot/cold of the SPDIF interface. Yes > they > > are naked(as they appear) -- do you think this is the issue here? > If > > so, perhaps I can rewire them and that will fix this issue? > > > I have to say, I'm not an audiophile and I use $10 logitech speakers on > one > of my SB2's, but this conversation is really fascinating. It's very > unique > to be able to communicate with a company the size of > Logitech/SlimDevices at > this level. > > Ben Well slimdevices as not big, but I am convinced that the excellent engineering and thought in their SB product -- including, no doubt, the involvement of the CEO with customers is responsible for their success in this space. Paul McGowan gets involved too..plus he makes DACs -- maybe PS Audio's new DAC is my real answer to my backend. Now if I can only get this thing working with my excellent sounding DAC -- that would be great. I really love this thing -- so much so that I still am listening to it through old-fashioned CD players with the cool Squeezebox staring at me;) -- jt25741 jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
seanadams;159088 Wrote: > Looking at the internal wiring of that DAC I'd have to say it's a bit > suspect - there are longish unshielded wires coming in from the coax > plug on the back panel, and it's hard to tell how they have it wired up > to the chip. > > http://www.tweakaudio.com/Resources/P4220005.JPG-1.jpg > > I realize you say it works with other equipment, but if the receive > circuitry is borderline then it will be hit-or-miss. Probably if you > tried some more CD/DVD sources you would find a few that also don't > work. > > If you could post a close-up photo of that top left area of the PCB, I > might have a better idea. I understand what you are saying. Everything is P-P wired by hand, except for some surface mount stuff under the board. The reciever is in the upper left of the PCB as you suspected and it is hard wired to the jacks. Those wires you see in the picture are indeed the hot/cold of the SPDIF interface. Yes they are naked(as they appear) -- do you think this is the issue here? If so, perhaps I can rewire them and that will fix this issue? -- jt25741 -------- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
seanadams;159064 Wrote: > This sounds like an electrical problem - possibly impedance mismatch or > a flaky cable. I would suggest trying a different type of cable, or a > different length. Try a video cable, which will have the correct 75 ohm > impedance. Hi Sean: The cable is a very high-quality 75Ohm variety. I also tried a much cheaper 75Ohm SPDIF Cable I got from Monoprice. Again it works with the A/V receiver but not with the DAC(which continues to work fine with DVD and/or CD players through both cables). Any thing I can try? I greatly appreciate your help. -- jt25741 ---- jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
Skunk;158943 Wrote: > You could try setting digital volume control in player settings>audio to > 'fixed', or turning the volume on the SB3 to 100 if it's set to > variable. > > I believe replay gain is disabled by default, but you might check. Also > check that bitrate limiting is set to no limit. > > In server settings>file types you could make sure Flac>Flac(built in) > is checked. > > Doing the above should ensure that the DAC sees what looks like a 16 > bit signal. > > There is also a thing in player settings called audio startup time, > which helps DAC's lock onto mp3 streams. Perhaps you could try > specifying a value there. I have tried to mess with the volume setting, it was on max anyways. It doesnt seem to matter. I tried to disable the volume feature setting in the player settings menu, but it appears not to work(Volume still does work after slecting disable).As for the "audio startup time", this menu option does not exist, at least in the settings sub-menus. Is there a special menu hidden somewhere that I need to find first? Thanks very much. Jim -- jt25741 jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
Ben Sandee;158852 Wrote: > On 11/30/06, jt25741 forums.slimdevices.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I just received a SB3 with intentions on using this with my external > > DAC's SPDIF Coax inputs. It is a higher end unit with no TOSLINK. > > Unit has no problems locking on to any CD player or DVD Player I > have > > over the years, at 16/44.1, 24/96 etc... > > > Is it just my imagination or did you never actually say what your > 'higher > end unit' actually was? If nothing else, it would be a reference > point. > > Ben Skunk;158849 Wrote: > In player settings>audio>'turn off audio' you could try switching to > 'disable outputs when off'. Then toggle the power on/off and skip > forward two or three tracks to see if it locks. Unfortunately this did not help. Thanks for the suggestion. Any other ideas? -- jt25741 jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
Ben Sandee;158852 Wrote: > On 11/30/06, jt25741 forums.slimdevices.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I just received a SB3 with intentions on using this with my external > > DAC's SPDIF Coax inputs. It is a higher end unit with no TOSLINK. > > Unit has no problems locking on to any CD player or DVD Player I > have > > over the years, at 16/44.1, 24/96 etc... > > > Is it just my imagination or did you never actually say what your > 'higher > end unit' actually was? If nothing else, it would be a reference > point. > > Ben Hello ben. The unit is a few years old now and discontinued(EVS MII DAC). You can read about it here: http://www.tweakaudio.com/Millennium%20DAC.html -- jt25741 jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] External DAC Issues with SB3 via SPDIF
Hello, I just received a SB3 with intentions on using this with my external DAC's SPDIF Coax inputs. It is a higher end unit with no TOSLINK. Unit has no problems locking on to any CD player or DVD Player I have over the years, at 16/44.1, 24/96 etc... With the SB3, I get no sync and no signal. Again, connecting DAC immediately using the same cable to my CD players coax output immediately works again through the DAC. I have never had sync issues before with it. Here is the interesting part. If I connect the SB3 to my el-cheapo Pioneer A/V receiver via the same SPDIF it works just fine. However, the sound is horrible by comparison to my high-end DAC and unacceptable to me. Question: Do I need to return the Squeezebox 3 and forget the whole thing, or is there anything that can be done? I really love the SB3, and have all my music streaming in FLAC just ready to sound good. Thanks for any help on this matter, I hope I can fix the problem. Regards Jim -- jt25741 jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
