[slim] Gramofon: Modern Cloud Jukebox
Just ran across this gadget and wondered what SB community would say about it. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fon/gramofon-modern-cloud-jukebox tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox.com
Still down for me in the North East of area of the US... Could it just be that the server that covers this zone is down? tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100541 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream
Great News! Already signed at ickStream.com. Also glad to hear that MusicIP or similar functionality either native or via a 3rd party plugin is being considered. Looking forward to future news and would gladly provide feedback if admitted as beta tester. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Good luck Andy... You're always one of the good guys. Hate see you go. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] More bad news re the future of mysqueezebox.com
I just found this out from another thread that I follow. I guess there not much left of the good-old SqueezeTeam. This is a very, very sad day. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Logitech divesting from some product lines
I wonder what this will mean for the Squeezebox/UE line http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57565558-92/logitech-to-unload-harmony-line-after-disappointing-quarter/ tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97925 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
cparker wrote: I'm with Mnyb on this one, it sounds like MIP is up after LMS. Makes no difference once they are both up but will throw the notification during startup Just to clarify... I agree that the MIP process might start after the LMS process during the computer startup (reboot). But... when I stop and then restart LMS the MIP process is still up and running, yet I still get the fetching filter message during the LMS Server processes restart. Is this what you also experience? tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
As suggested in the thread linked below I'm starting this new thread to try and get to the source of the subject error message. I've been getting the Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Common::__ANON__ (75) Failed fetching filters from MusicIP error message in my log for the longest time and have not been able to figure out what's causing it. I set Filters to (NONE) in the MusicIP plugin settings, but I still get the Failed fetching message. I also could not find a setting in SugarCube for MusicIP filters and Trackstat is not enabled in SugarCube. Is there a setting in another plugin I should check or a file or something missing somewhere? I'm running the latest 7.8 LMS release with MusicIP 1.9 beta 6 on Windows 7. Btw, this issue is discussed towards the end of this old thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?89462-7-6-and-MusicIP-not-working but no resolution was posted. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
mherger wrote: Can you open http://localhost:10002/api/filters in a browser? How long does it take (roughly)? -- Michael Hi Michael, it takes ~5 seconds. Is there a place in the plugin where I can alter the wait interval? Thanks... tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
mherger wrote: Hi Michael, it takes ~5 seconds. Is there a place in the plugin where I can alter the wait interval? Heh... the ~ might be crucial here: the timeout is hard-coded to 5s. If it took longer, you'd see that message... -- Michael He! He!, to me (roughly) = ~ (After subsequent checks using a StopWatch it takes almost 2 seconds (1.72-1.82 sec to be exact... give or take a few millisecond of finger delay from the right hand pressing enter to left hand pressing the Start/Stop button on the StopWatch). Btw, this message is generated during server startup only... not while generating dynamic mixes with MusicIP or when generating mixes using the Web UI. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
Mnyb wrote: An experiment while the whole server is running and MIP server too, restart LMS do you get the error then ? Yes, I should have been more specific. It happens during server startup only... and on computer reboot. Below is the full content of the log file after the server starts. I'm also trying to get rid of the SuperDateTime warning message and posted about it in the appropriate 3rd party software thread. I recently reinstalled my server from scratch and I'm trying to get rid of any annoying messages in the log. The MusicIP fetching, SuperDateTime deprecated and NPRRadio Metadata messages were present in the previous install. Logging for all these is set to error under advanced settings. [12-10-24 15:51:25.7034] main::init (354) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.8.0, 1350572233, Fri Oct 19 03:14:51 PDT 2012) perl 5.014001 [12-10-24 15:52:02.8288] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1304) Warning: [15:52:02.8281] Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\SuperDateTime\lib/Plugins/SuperDateTime/Plugin.pm line 2183. [12-10-24 15:52:08.4251] Plugins::NPRRadio::Metadata::init (21) Register NPR meta provider, default icon= [12-10-24 15:52:55.4549] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Common::__ANON__ (75) Failed fetching filters from MusicIP tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.6 and MusicIP not working
MeSue wrote: [11-08-17 12:15:11.2944] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Common::__ANON__ (75) Failed fetching filters from MusicIP It's been a while since this was posted, but I've been having this error message in my log for the longest time and have not been able to figure out what's causing it. I set Filters to (NONE) in the MusicIP plugin settings, but I still get the Failed fetching message. I also could not find a setting in SugarCube for MusicIP filters and Trackstat is not enabled in SugarCube. Is there a setting in another plugin I should check or a file or something missing somewhere? tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ultimate Ears Squeezebox ?
Here is a video about the new product line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtg9hehylAwfeature=player_embedded tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ultimate Ears Squeezebox ?
Still a proud owner of a Slim Devices SB3 and of the Original UE Super.Fi 5 Pros... Today's announcement from Logitech, form me... is a Wake UP! swift kick in the nuts. Logitech has managed to kill the innovation and the reputation of two cool brands. They should have stuck with mice and keyboards. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ultimate Ears Squeezebox ?
mherger wrote: They should have stuck with mice and keyboards. If you think economically you probably must agree that this would have been a poor plan. -- Michael I understand where you're coming from, but I also forgot to mention that I also own a Logitech Revue. So, I'm also road-kill from a third Logitech product line. Btw, UE is to be the benchmark for personal IEMs, but now-a-days it's Westone. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
All I'm looking for now is to continue to enjoy my local FLAC library and some streams from the Internet via my home stereo system. I doubt that I will buy another Logitech SB if my SB3 breaks as the SBs future doesn't look too bright. At one point I bought a Touch (too small a touch screen for me) and returned it because I still liked the retro look of the SB3. I also have a copy of my music library in high bitrate MP3 in the Google cloud that I use with Google Play Music app on my Smartphone when I'm on the road. My wife also uses this library with the Logitech Revue as she was never able to master the idiosyncrasies of my SB3-LMS-Receiver setup. My understanding is that Google took the Nexus Q back in house to figure out which market they want to target and to improve it somehow. Given that the Q already supports Internet streamed services... I wonder how difficult it would be to get it to run a Squeezeplayer app that could run against LMS and display the player interface on the TV via the Q's HDMI port. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
bobm wrote: I don#8217;t want to turn on my TV, find some remote and navigate a menu system. Bob Turning the TV on is optional you can always use a Smartphone Apps like Squeeze Commander for Android or iPeng for iOS to navigate the library and control the player. When you have friends over you can turn on the TV and share the Album Art and information about the album, track and artist. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
As been said here, UPnP for video is fine if you keep away from large video playlists... but for large categorized (carefully tagged) music libraries the DLNA indexing mechanism leaves a lot to be desired. Searching using the tags is also limitted. I own a Revue (Logitech Google TV) and use a subset of my music library in MP3 format derived from my main FLAC library so that my wife can listen to music using the TV. I tried and failed to maintain a reliable music playing setup using a UPnP/DLNA players and servers. I tried LMS with the DLNA server enabled and with the Whitebear server (Whitebear being very reliable), but always found issues related to the UPnP players being unable to maintain a reliable index of the library. Using the Windows Media Player from a PC proved to be the most reliable. If another of my Windows computers with the DLNA server enabled entered the network the players (LMP, aVia, GTVBox) in the Revue would sometimes associate with the Windows computers instead of the LMS server. Indexing would have to be started from scratch every time some communication issue occurred or whenever indexing glitches came up during simple library updates... like adding a new album. Of course, this would always happen when my wife had friends over and wanted to play some music using the Revue. I found that most of players that I tried lacked a settings granularity flexible enough to allow me to display and search my library as I wanted. To make a long story short, I opted to upload my MP3 library to the Google cloud and use Google Music as a player in the Revue instead. It took a long time to upload, but no more indexing issues. The library is rendered quickly with all its album art and all the main tags are displayed correctly. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pioneer Announces New Networked Audio Players
All I can say is that DLNA for Media management is a nightmare. I have yet to see an elegant implementation where DLNA servers and clients that work in harmony. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92796 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Revue and Google TV forum?
Here are two Revue and GTV communities where I have found useful information. http://www.googletvforum.org/forum/logitech-revue/ http://forum.gtvhacker.com/revue/ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Support for Logitech Revue (GoogleTV)?
pankajbshah;648767 Wrote: Hi, Is Squeezebox functionality ever going to be supported on Logitech's GoogleTV box? Thanks, Pankaj Squeezebox Server 7.7 renamed Logitech Media Server (LMS) 7.7 is in its very early beta stages and it appears that it'll support GoogleTV via an official UPnP DLNA plugin. But as Erland mentioned, only with the specific features supported via the plugin. You can get some details about LMS in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86628 -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down
erland;644608 Wrote: Harmony One - Hard buttons combined with small touch screen Revue - Touch screen and barely any hard buttons That makes them a gigantic difference to me. If one planned to get the Harmony 1000, it would maybe be smart to wait for the lower priced Revue. If you planned to get the Harmony 900 because you need RF, the situation is also a bit different because currently the 900 feels pretty expensive and even more so if you can get a Revue with Wifi remote for $99 Maybe the Revue price drop could affect Harmony prices, but I don't think so. When you read why they are dropping the Revue price you realize it's because it's a new market and they want to establish the product, this isn't they case for the Harmony remotes, they are already in an established market and they have both fairly cheap and more expensive models. Well, the Revue also has two hard button remote options: The Mini Controller $129 and the Keyboard $99. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/accessories They should lower the price of these accessories given that the Revue has the same price or lower price than its accessories. I'm always reluctant to get the first generation of any gadget because subsequent generations usually have more functionality, have the bugs worked out and are less expensive. That's the reason I did not jump at the Revue in the first place. I considered it as a possible IR Universal Remote, but at $249 it was out of the question. I'd still wait to see how the Gingerbread update enhances the Revue/Google TV experience. I'm also curious to find out if LMS will play a role as a media server for the Revue. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down
erland;644392 Wrote: If someone who don't understand them is in charge, that could easily happen if they plan to sell the Revue for $99. Revue $99: - Support for video - Support for music (local and online) - Support for pictures - Support for viewing and recording TV Squeezebox Touch $299: - Support for music (local and online) I could easily see someone within Logitech management think, hmm, why do we need this expensive music box which when we have the Revue which is cheaper and can do so much more... Of course, when you know the products it's a different situation, but I doubt there are many (if even anyone) within Logitech management who really understands what the Squeezebox products is all about. However, if they drop the Harmony remotes, which is mentioned as something they have had problems selling in the linked article in the initial post, I would be very sad, because that really is an excellent product. I wonder if I should get an Harmony One while it still exists... Hopefully they will just drop the Revue and invest those resources on Squeezebox and Harmony improvements instead :-) Interesting an equivalent price drop for the existing SB Touch would not be out of line. Btw, I think the review for $99 is a better deal than buying a Harmony One. Correct me if I'm wrong... because I've not read the specs of the Revue in a while. But... if I remember correctly, the Harmony Remote engine is already in the review along with IR blasters. All you need is the Harmony discrete codes for your model Squeezebox and AV system to control everything with single remote. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down
Phil Leigh;644547 Wrote: The Revue and the Harmony One are completely different animals... Understood... but the Revue can act as a Universal Remote. Run your mouse over the IR blasters ports of the Revue here: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revue -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify invitation
Add me to list for an invite. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Potential Squeezebox Killer?
Funny video... that VOCO is Loco... that wasn't Latin music in my book. I agree, the web interface looks interesting. Anybody can understand what the system does from that very low budget video-ad. No technical jargon whatsoever. The world's first voice-controlled Music System... You Say It VOCO Plays it What else do you need to know? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25541 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NEW SB hardware?
justreturned;637723 Wrote: In my opinion SB3 is still the most awesome-looking piece of hardware every made in this product line (designed by Slimdevices). I own Booms, a Radio, a Receiver and a SB3, and while the SB3's fluorescent display is not as flexible as a touchscreen, it just looks classy and is nicely readable even from a distance. Also, can't beat it dimmed in the sleeping room where an LCD is always too bright. Boom and radio are nice in terms of not needing an amplifier, they fit their purpose, but they just don't have the looks of the SB3 and seem built with less care for quality...too much plastic. As for the receiver/controller pair, I might trade it any day for an SB3, especially in these times of iPeng the controller is slow, inflexible and not very userfriendly. The touch aims at continuing the SB3's line, but the display is just not the same feel. Logitech, please bring back an SB3-like model, with nice design, maybe a (tiny) set of somewhat hidden and invisible buttons (e.g. on the side or on top), and with a bigger fluorescent display, and I'll be in Squeezebox heaven. Maybe also a flat one for wall-mounting? I'm on the same boat... the SB3 up to this point (for me) has been the pinnacle of the SB players. Great sound quality without too many bells and whistles. The ability to quickly select a track, album or streamed service that I want to listen. at that moment, is most important. Want a display?... You got it!... Don't want or need a the native display?... dim it or turn it off. Need a remote? Use the included dummy remote. If you want to get fancy and want color album art, info and lyrics on the palm of your hand... get a one of the remote apps for smartphones or buy the controller. Most important thing when I get home and want to relax... is to get a drink and and turn on the music without too much fuzz. Listen to what I feel like and avoid having to interact with the apparatus that's playing the music... I just want to relax and listen. That's the reason I got the box in the first place. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88170 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox ( MySqueezebox.com) DOWN!!!
Discarding mysb.com is easy for those that bought their SBs just to connect to a local server, but what about those that bought them to use them with mysb.com? Maintaining a local server is not a walk in the park for those that lack computer skills. Too many things can go wrong with an SBS which makes it difficult for your average person to diagnose. Server hardware, OS, network connectivity, is the SBS app running, viruses, server crash... etc. Some of my friends and some members of my family use their SB3s and boom boxes just to listen to Pandora and to a couple foreign radio stations. Do they need the additional expense and complexity of an SBS server? I know, there are plugins that allow power the server on/off... but try asking an elderly member of your family to configure the SrvCntrl plugin and WOL in the LAN remotely. With mysb.com when a family member or friend has an issue and the SB is on... I can quickly narrow it down to network connectivity. If mysb.com is working from my house they are either having ISP issues or their router is down. (I acknowledge that lately mysb.com has not been as reliable as it has been in the past). But rarely does the hardware/firmware of the boxes fails or do my friends or family have issues with the LAN connectivity to mysq.com making it easy with just a computer with a browser from the LAN to determine where the connectivity issue lies. (LAN or ISP). Something that the average Joe can do. Mysb.com also serve as an aggregator for all the Internet stream music services and radio stations. You only need a single id and password of mysb.com configure in your box to get access to all your subscriptions from a single point. Without this remote single point of aggregation one has to locally maintain all the ids and passwords... if the Local server fails think of all the things you have to do to get a failed server up and running just to listen to one of your Pandora favorites? To me one of the advantages of my Squeezebox is that I don't end up with a brick if my server fails or if I decide to turn my SB server off to save a few cents on electricity. Again, I agree that the mysb.com needs to be made more reliable and that Logitech should continue to enhance this service. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Possibility to build dedicated controller based on Android?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86926 Question: Dedicated controller necessary? - Go on, just buy a Sonos then! - Are the two extra clicks really that bad? - The original Controller works well! - Yes, such a controller would be the icing on the cake! Muele;624649 Wrote: Yes, such a controller would be the icing on the cake! Sure, if it came from Logitech, maybe it would generate a few extra sales but probably not enough to justify the effort. For existing customers I think aftersales of such a controller would be close to 0. Based on the expected pricetag of such a device, compared to what alternatives are out there. I have different speculative take. I believe Logitech would like to increase their share of the streamed media market. This is evident by their acquisition of SlimDevices and their partnership with Google. So far, as separated offerings the SqueezeBox and Revue have not been very successful. I would not be surprised if the Squeezebox and the Revue were integrated to give customers a fully integrated stream media solution. The Revue already has the functionality of a Harmony remote including an IR blaster to control AV components. Adding a bit of hardware to make it into a SqueezeVue or ReSqueeze should not be that hard and it would remove the hardware fragmentation they currently have with music and video stream players. The recent development of LMS hints that Logitech is moving in this direction either with completely new hardware box that can take advantage of their new Media Server, currently under development, or with the integration of their existing assets in an enhanced Revue box. This also would allow them to integrate their streamed media development and cut cost. With such a device it would then be possible to control all of your AV components with a single remote and even allow you to view your album art using your computer, Smartphone and on your TV if you so desire. The Revue already has a Smartphone remote app. Again, this is all speculation, but given that LMS is also a video server and that the current product line has no offerings to take advantage of this additional server functionality... makes one wonder. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86926 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Possibility to build dedicated controller based on Android?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86926 Question: Dedicated controller necessary? - Go on, just buy a Sonos then! - Are the two extra clicks really that bad? - The original Controller works well! - Yes, such a controller would be the icing on the cake! erland;624361 Wrote: The only dedicated controller from Logitech that would make sense to me is a combined Squeezebox+Harmony remote with some hard buttons and a touch screen that could also control all my IR based equipment. Something like that, I'd definitely consider buying, but not a dedicated controller that only can control my Squeezeboxes. Until they release something like that, I'll continue using the Harmony IR remote or the iPad with SqueezePad or iPeng depending on what kind of operation I'd like to do. I'm on the same boat, but I use Android instead of iOS. If LMS becomes a successful Logitech mainstream product maybe they'd consider developing a hybrid Harmony AV Remote + LMS Controller. When the existing Controller was under development. I remember asking about building a hybrid using Logitech's Harmony code. At the time, if I remember correctly, I was told that there were some intellectual capital restrictions that prevented the Harmony developers from sharing code with the Controller developers. Maybe these restrictions no longer apply. Having such a remote from the get-go would make LMS a more appealing Media Server. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86926 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Possibility to build dedicated controller based on Android?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86926 Question: Dedicated controller necessary? - Go on, just buy a Sonos then! - Are the two extra clicks really that bad? - The original Controller works well! - Yes, such a controller would be the icing on the cake! HelgeP;624501 Wrote: Whoah, thanks for all the input, guys. :-D I think I phrased my questrion a bit confusingly: I was really wondering whether someone (not Logitech) would be able to transform any kind of Android phone (I took Android as it is a supposedly more open system) into a Squeezebox controller via some kind of hack (removing the lockscreen and single-tasking the controller app). I don't mind using a phone 'only' as a controller, seeing as I would be spending the same amount for Sonos' dedicated controller. Why does it have to be a hack? There are SBS remote control applications for Smartphones. Have you looked at SqueezeCommander? That's the application I use for Android to control my Squeezebox setup. I think there one or two more similar Android apps. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86926 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
A bit off topic I have been using SqueezeCommander for a while and I'm very happy with it. Thank you very much. Little improvements are needed here and there, but nothing related to the scope of its existing (defined) functionality that I'd complain about. My issue is that I need another device (remote) just to turn my receiver on/off and to adjust some of its settings. I understand that SqueezeCommander is not a Universal remote, but if one could add just the function to power on/off receivers it would be perfect for me. Looking around I noticed that right now with an iPhone one can have a remote for the SB (iPeng) and a Universal IR remote unified in a single device. I don't think I'll ever get an iPhone... so I'd like a similar solution for my Android phone, but I have been unable to find it. Looking around I found the following 3 solutions to control AV systems via IR using an iPhone which requires the purchase of a wireless IR blaster. I could not find anything similar to these for Android. http://us.gear4.com/product/_/93/unityremote/?cid=31 http://www.slashgear.com/peel-fruit-turns-iphone-into-show-suggesting-universal-remote-08118392/ http://www.slashgear.com/griffin-beacon-makes-your-iphone-4-a-universal-remote-07124546/ My question to the SqueezeCommander developer is... How difficult would it be for SqueezeCommander to accommodate the necessary wireless interface to communicate with one of these wireless IR blasters? One way would be to have an agreement with the makers of one of these blasters and license the interface from then and incorporate into SqueezeCommander. It will probably cost too much money to justify it, but one can only wish. Take a look at the video about the UnityRemote in the link above... I'd like to something similar to this for my Android phone, but with the functionality of SqueezeCommander. The other way... probably not legal... is to capture and replicate the wireless signals from one of these apps. I know that recording the IR signal from any of these blasters to the components is easy (most Universal remotes have a record function) but how difficult would it be to record the wireless signal from one of these apps to the IR blasters? I doubt they're secured (encrypted). Just having an app that replicates the signals that are required to turn several receivers on/off from my Android phone would be enough for me. Having SqueezeCommander do it within its interface would be perfect. Just a thought... I know that my iPhone-loving friend, who also owns a SB3 because I recommended it.. is thinking of buying the UnityRemote... I hate to have him show me another thing that he can easily do with his device. My other hope is that gears4 is also developing a UnityRemote app for Android. Back on topic... -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Archos Artnova... ready to exterminate... your Squeezebox too?
I think this Arnova has been around for a few weeks. Has anyone gotten a hold of one of these internet radio boxes? How the sound quality and UI? Does the Engadget SQB Exterminator claim hold any water? http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/archos-arnova-is-ready-to-exterminate-your-clock-radio-your-squ/ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Orb
Here is SlashGear's review of the Orb Music MP-1 http://www.slashgear.com/orb-music-mp-1-review-13119165/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+slashgear+%28SlashGear%29utm_content=Bloglines No wired LAN support, No Flac support, lo-fi... Affordable, but not good enough to replace a Squeezebox. Might consider it... so that I can use it by the pool with a pair of portable self-amplified speakers... if I ever get that summer home in the Caribbean. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;567987 Wrote: Some more things to try: - In the PlayerServerScreen in SqueezeCommander, does the IP address line show 192.168.1.100:9000 *(WOL)*? - Please try the WOL again (i.e. tap on the server in SqueezeCommander) and send me a logfile: http://www.squeezecommander.com/trac/wiki/Logfile Thanks! Ok, problem solved. Knowing that *(WOL)* needed to appear and the end of the Server IP address line helped me solve the issue. I removed and re-added the server to the list. I think the issue was due to the keyboard adding a space after the : in the last hex pair of the MAC address. Removing the extra space with backspace removed the space while editing, but for some reason, once I hit Ok the space I removed using the backspace was somehow re-added. I used my finger to place the cursor after the existing : in the last Hex pair of the MAC and it worked. I also re-installed the WOL app and now shows an option to send the packets as broadcast which did not appear before under the settings. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
After playing with Commander for a week I'm very happy with the way I can navigate my server library and squeezenetwork services. The only things I wish I had is access to the Extras menu. This way I can use plugins like Server Power Control to put my SB Server to sleep and like Sugarcube to turn on/off my dynamic MusicIP playlist. It would also be nice if one could create MusicIP mixes from the Music Library and to view Album Reviews. I know... I know... it takes time. The only thing I noticed that's not working for me is WOL. I have to use my laptop to wake up my server. Pressing Connect to my server (already configured for WOL with the correct MAC) fails to wake up the server. Am I missing a button somewhere to send the WOL packets? Btw, I'm not sure if it is an issue with my Captivate Running Android 2.1. I also downloaded an App called WOL and it also fails to wake up the server. The WOL tool is configured to send 5 wake up packets every 5 seconds, but it does not do anything either. My laptop is connected via WiFi to the same router. I use Fusion WOL to send the WOL packets to my server and it works just fine. I would be nice if I didn't need to use my laptop to wake up the server or use the IR remote to put the server to sleep. One more thing... is there a way to clear the current playlist? I would like to add several tracks/albums while there are no tracks playing (Blank Playlist) But... it would also be nice if there was an option to clear the playlist except for the currently playing track. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;567868 Wrote: Your server is connected through *wired* LAN? If yes, maybe you could capture the network traffic (Protocol UDP, Broadcasting to 255.255.255.255) and see if the packets arrive in your LAN? The packet is sent as broadcast, therefore you should be able to catch the packet on any device in your LAN. (Try e.g. Wireshark as Network sniffer) Yes, my server and my SB3 are connected to a Wired LAN. I'd not have it any other way. I ran Wiredshark and I can see ARP requests from my phone (.112) for my server IP address (.100) every time I click connect from Commander or when I try to send a WOL packet from the WOL app in my phone. I do not see WOL packets coming from the phone. 26 5.418603SamsungE_ad:1x:5x Broadcast ARP Who has 192.168.1.100? Tell 192.168.1.112 When I send them from my laptop (.101) connected via WiFi using Fusion WOL I can see the WOL packets arrive. 162 33.584576 192.168.1.101 255.255.255.255 WOL MagicPacket for 3Com_6x:4x:1x (00:0x:0x:6x:4x:1x) (x inserted to hide MAC address) I think I read something about Android 2.1 having issues with masks other than 255.255.255.0 could this be an issue? I thought WOL only relied on MAC addresses, but I could be wrong. Can you WOL your server using a phone with Android 2.1? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin;566268 Wrote: That should work, as flattermann said, from the player context menu (hold the player). Maybe I'm a little dense today. Please explain how. My SB3 is currently connected to mysqueezebox.com. My SBS server is on I'm on the player's content menu. (Top shows PLayers on: MysqueezeBox.com nameofmysb3*) Under Music Source: If I press press and hold the option to connect Commander to my SBS server there are tree options (Connect, Configure WOL and Remote list) The default is connect with one click. If I select connect... I get a message that says No Squeezebox is connected to this server! If I press and hold the option to mysqueezebox.com to connect Commander to mysqueezebox.com there are two options (Connect and Configure WOL) Connect is the default with one click. (Don't know why there is a configure WOL option for mysqueezebox.com in this menu)... I select Connect... My SB3 is connected. I can use all the features of mysqueezebox.com Where do I click to get an option to connect my SB3 directly to my local squeezebox server? I only get choices for mysquezebox.com features under Music Library. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin;566268 Wrote: That should work, as flattermann said, from the player context menu (hold the player). Maybe I'm being a little dense. Please explain how. My SB3 is currently connected to mysqueezebox.com. My SBS server is on I'm on the player's content menu. (Top shows PLayers on: MysqueezeBox.com nameofmysb3*) Under Music Source: If I press press and hold the option to connect Commander to my SBS server there are tree options (Connect, Configure WOL and Remote list) The default is connect with one click. If I select connect... I get a message that says No Squeezebox is connected to this server! If I press and hold the option to mysqueezebox.com to connect Commander to mysqueezebox.com there are two options (Connect and Configure WOL) Connect is the default with one click. (Don't know why there is a configure WOL option for mysqueezebox.com in this menu)... I select Connect... My SB3 is connected. I can use all the features of mysqueezebox.com Where do I click to get an option to connect my SB3 directly to my local squeezebox server? I only get choices for mysquezebox.com features under Music Library. EDIT: If I press and hold the playername I get options for (Music Source, Sleep, Alarm Clock, Rename and Forget Player)... If I click Music Source it t list the name of my SBS with a button underneath to Cancel. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;566277 Wrote: Now tap on the SBS name in this dialog. :-) Thanks... I was just moving a little too quickly and thought of this option as just a list of sources. See my subsequent edits to my post. One question. Why is there a configure WOL option under mysqueezebox.com? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Nice! 1st paid app I put in my two-week old Samsung Captivate. So far... so good. There are a few things that would be nice to have, but they might be unreasonable or impossible to implement. I like that the app uses WOL to wake up the server, but I still have to grab the old remote and switch my SB3 from mysqueezebox.com to my squeezebox server. A long time ago I asked if there was a way to switch the Squeezebox from from SBN to a default SBS via the Web interface or programatically, but I think I was told that there was no such functionality. My SB3 is connected to SBN while my dedicated SBS sleeps. The PowerCntrl plugin has a similar problem. It automatically switches my SB3 to SBN and puts my server to sleep, but I still have to grab the old remote to turn the SB3 off to display the clock. To use the search function after the application is started requires at least 3 clicks. Music Library - Artist/Album - Search. Sometimes both the Menu and Search (physical buttons) bring up the Music Library. Once the app has loaded... it would be nice if just pressing the Search button brought up a little window that let you you select Artist or Album... and Internet Station (In the future... if possible) Also... maybe implement something similar to the search function of the Contacts list. Like the ability to select the first letter of the track/artist/album from a list of letters on the side or display a large letter in the middle of the list as one scrolls up/down. I use SpiceFly Sugarcube it would be nice if there was a way to turn it on/off from Commander. Very low in priority - The color scheme is nice, but I find it a bit dark. Are color adjustments and skins features that we can expect down the road? I just installed Commander... so maybe some these features are already planned, already requested or impossible. These were the things that came to mind at first glance. I have not played with the app for long or had time to read the whole thread. Thanks for the great app. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
flattermann;566194 Wrote: tamanaco, I'm not sure, if I understand your problem correctly. You should be able to switch your SB3 from SBS to MSB (and vice versa) on the PlayerServerScreen (swipe left-to-right on the NowPlayingScreen, use the context menu of the Player). What I was trying to say was... that my SB3 is usually connected directly to mysqueezebox.com when turned off (the server is sleeping). I just want to use Commander in my Android phone, nothing else, to control the SB3. I'm able to connect to mysqueezebox.com and turn on my SB3 using Commander (not a problem), I can Wake up my SBS using WOL in Commander (not a problem). While my server is waking up, I can connect back to mysqueezebox.com using Commander and control my SB3, but I can not make my SB3 connect to my SBS using Commander via myqueezebox.com. I have to grab the IR Remote and switch the SB3 from mysqueezebox.com to connect to the squeezebox server. I just wanted to use my phone from outside the house (within WiFi range) and start playing music from my server. No matter what, I have to go inside the house and use the IR remote if I want to switch the SB3 from mysqueezebox.com to my server. Note that if my server is on and my SB3 is connected to it... I can put my server to sleep and switch my SB3 to mysqueezebox.com using the Server Power Control Plugin. I can then go to mysqueezebox.com via a browser or using Commander and turn off my SB3. Server sleeps and the SB3 is displaying the time and I did not have to go inside the house to use the IR remote. Btw, I believe that what Id like to do is a function thats not currently available when one interfaces to with the squeezebox via mysqueezebox network. You can play music, you can add favorites, you can turn the SB3 on/off etc, etc but you can not make the SB3 connect to a server. I still think I'm not explaining what I want to say very well. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Google TV
Boxee is already working on an Android app for Google TV. Another small player falls under the Google cloud. http://androidcommunity.com/boxee-and-googletv-20100525/ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79007 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Google TV
indecent adult content that might affect them, but they have no issues with a kid getting a hole in the head with one of the guns they sell over the counter... Topic for another forum Back to the Logitech box... from what I can see from the video demo I posted in this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79006 The Logitech box besides having Google TV (A Google Experience that allows search for media content with a customized browser for TV), the Logitech box will also incorporate the Harmony remote engine that can be controlled via a Smarphone or any mobile device using Android and WiFi. The Logitech box is also IR Blaster which will allow you to send IR commands to the rest of your AV System components. In essence giving you the Harmony activity-centric way of controlling your AV components. Google's approach appears more open to other content sources like Apple TV because of its search engine and browser, but believe me, Google TV will prioritize Gooogle's content so that it generates revenue for Google. The one thing that might become attractive about the Google TV solution is the strong possibility of Google TV for mobile devices. Google is all about cloud-computing and the content that it owns is already in the cloud. In the US making deals with studios that will allow their content be use via Google Youtube Private and Secured Channels does not sound that far out. Porting SBS to Android and making it a component of the Logitech box along with Google TV might be a little farther out. I also believe that Google has pockets deep enough to make something positive/negative happen. Small and independent companies like Vudu that can only license content, do not own internet content (youtube) or have the influence that only $oo$le has. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79007 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP and accented characters in 7.5.1
Hmmm, I did not noticed, until I saw this thread, that this accented character issue with MusicIP was back. I guess it came back with 7.5 as it was working fine for me with previous releases of SBS. My library has tons of World music and I have used accented characters in the tags, path, and files names. I'm not about to rename them as I feel that it takes away an aesthetic aspect of my library. I have not been using the M in the Web UI to generate MusicIP frequently enough to notice that it was not picking up accented characters. I have been using SpiceFly SugarCube and this plugin uses MusicIP to create its dynamic playlists. As far as I can tell, SugarCube has no issues retrieving tracks from MusicIP that have accented characters. I guess there is something that SugarCube is doing to handle these MusicIP exceptions. I can use a seed track with foreign characters in its path, file name, and tag and SugarCube retrieves the next track. It even retrieves next tracks with accented characters in them. Maybe... just maybe... some method could be added to the MusicIP plugin or SBS so that it can retrieve the MusicIP generated tracks in a similar way that SugarCube does. Having to rename all my existing files and having to edit tracks that are automatically named correctly as I rip them with dBpowerAMP is not an option for me. I also want to maintain the integrity (The correct names of Artists, Albums and Tracks) of my library as I don't use it exclusively with SBS and in the future a better player/mixer might come up that has no issues with these characters. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP and accented characters in 7.5.1
treble;547148 Wrote: SqueezeCenter can create mixes with accented characters in the filename, however it won't play them since it can't find them because of the wrong character encoding (the error will show up in the log). Do yours actually play? This character encoding has been an issue with many versions of SqueezeCenter/Slimserver. Very frustrating. I resisted 'fixing' my filenames as well, but now I gave in, and changed my library. See also bugs I filed earlier (which probably will never be fixed since it is under the 7.4.* version): http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15486 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15701 I my case SC creates mixes, but only with tracks that have no accented characters. If I select a track with accented characters as the seed SC will generate a mix, but the seed track won't be in the play list. Also, none of the other tracks added to the playlist have accented characters. With SugarCube I can use a track with accented characters as the seed and this track plus subsequent dynamically added tracks to playlist... play without a problem. This includes dynamically added tracks with accented characters in their tags, path and files names. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Have the SD servers been moved to a new hardware or to a new ISP?
In the past couple days the respond of the UI of the forum, mysqueezebox.com and the servers from where I download the builds either loose connection or are too slow to respond. This morning I could not download the latest 7.51 build because the download time out several times. mysqueezebox.com kept disconnecting my SB3 and when it connected the streams would stop and restart. Something changed at the data center servers, with a router in the data center or with an ISP router on the way there... I'm in NYC and all the other internet services that I use are working as usual. I tried restarting my router and my computers several times, but it made no difference. When I run streaming services like Pandora directly from my computer I have no problems with the streams. Coincidence?... or Am I going crazy over here? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Last.fm to retire on-demand music
I wonder how this will work for Squeezebox users? http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/04/13/last-fm-retires-on-demand-music-streaming/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+electricpig+%28Electricpig.co.uk%3A+The+UK%27s+fastest+growing+tech+news+site%29utm_content=Bloglines -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77278 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
Nice!... but as others have said, the gadget takes a little bit too much horizontal (valuable) desktop space. It would be nice if the control buttons could collapse under the gadget while still showing the Album art and track info while the music is playing. Hovering over or clicking on the gadget to display the controls. Btw, I noticed that while playing internet stations and services the album Art does not update. I only the generic radio icon is displayed. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
SilverRS8;505883 Wrote: Let me know if my answer clarify the reason why things are happening for the Belly album. If not i'll dive into the problem again. Frank, I double checked my tags, but could not find anything... I email you more details. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
SilverRS8;504758 Wrote: The Belly Dance various artist issue is indeed due to the fact that ACC determines for itself if an album is correctly defined by SBS as various artist or not. However if you disable the option 'TPE2 tag is AlbumArtist instead of band' ACC does not perform this tasks so it should solve the issue. Hi Frank, I've been using ACC with the TPE2 option disabled and have tested with it enabled with the same result. What I can not understand is why is only happening with this specific Various Artist (Compilation) Album. There is a character of some tag there that is making ACC treat it differently. I use the same tag and folder naming scheme with all the other Various Artist (Compilations) Albums in my library and ACC displays them as expected. I must have over 100 compilations albums. As I said before, SC does not have any issues with this album and catalogs it along with the other compilations as expected. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Acer Aspire Revo: Good Server Bones?
I've been trying to get the Aspire Revo 3610 (2nd Generation) with Core Duo processor and Win 7 64bit, but no reputable US based store or online retailer has it in stock. The MSRP is $329. I can only find it for more money in eBay from a Taiwanese outlet or from an outlet in Canada. I was hoping that Acer was going to announce something about the Revo at CES, but I have not heard anything yet. There is either something wrong with the US supply pipeline for 3610 series or the series has been discontinued. It appears as a deactivated item at newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103234Tpk=acer%20aspire%20r3610%20revo One issue that some folks have reported is that they're unable use WOL to remotely wake up the Revos. There is supposedly a BIOS setting to enable this function, but it appears not to be working. Anyone here running SC on an Aspire Revo and using WOL? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73774 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
SilverRS8;504326 Wrote: I made some changes which require some testing before release and hope some of you can do some tests? Therefor this beta is only posted on the forum. What to test? 1. Various artist albums should be sorted by Album name 2. Artist names starting with ¡ or ¿ should be sorted by the first char of the name, not by ¡ or ¿ (Tamanaco ?) http://acc.vanholt.nl/downloads/acc-v205-beta1.zip Thx in advance... Frank Hi Frank, I just tested 2.05 beta 1 and the Various Artist (Belly Dance) Album that we talked about is still not listed as it should. The issue with the sorting of the Artist Names starting ¡ or ¿ is resolved, but the ¡ or ¿ characters are omitted in the Artist name in the Catalog. Not a big deal... I can live without the ¡ or ¿ printed in the Catalog. Thanks again... -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
Viragored;503712 Wrote: I have Firefox as the default web browser on my PC, but also have IE8 installed. When I run ACC, the files ACC creates open in Internet Explorer. If I use Windows Explorer to locate the files they show as Firefox files and a double click will open them in Firefox. Is there a setting somewhere in the PC that I need to change to make ACC open the files in Firefox? I'm assuming you're using Windows, so if IE8 is installed correctly you can try right-clicking the .hta file in File Explorer and select Open with... and then select IE as the program to open the file. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
SilverRS8;502379 Wrote: Interesting issue. Can you mail me a file of an album with this issue? I will then work towards a resolution. Question though, does SBS ignore the ¡ and ¿ also and sort on the first letter of the album name? Hi Frank, I sent you a sample file. SBS ignores the ¡ and ¿ and sorts then correctly by the first letter. I only have one artist that starts with ñ (Ñico Saquito) which SBS sorts after the Z under ?, but since I don't have a full album under this artist (Album Artist tag) ACC does not have to deal with it. SilverRS8;502379 Wrote: I don't know if this has been improved in SBS but in the SC days albums the whole various artist detecting was kind a lousy. For this reason ACC determines for itself which album is a various artist album and which not. This works quiet well actually but as you correctly noticed in this single case not. I will use the album tags you included to set up a test case in order to optimize the detection. This will probably be in the weekend though as sadly the christmas holidays are over. Maybe SBS has an improved detecting of various artists and can the detection code in ACC be removed. To be investigated I guess... I'll be back ;-) I understand what you're saying, but ACC sorted other various artists albums with similar characteristics correctly. I also send you a sample file from the album in question. Yeap, too bad the holidays are over. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
Thanks Frank, 2.x has some great improvements. I have another cosmetic suggestion. Would it be possible to either restrict the codec and bitrate information to the table of content? If not, when selected, can this information be placed to the right of the Artist and Album names (headers) in the main body of the Album Catalog? Thanks... -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
SilverRS8;502103 Wrote: You can set the position where it should appear in the main interface. Options are Left, right or at the bottom. I don't quiet understand what you mean with codec and table of contents? I see, I was looking at the options interface. Is there a way to get back to the main interface after you enter the options? I could not find a way to get back to the main (start page interface) What I meant was to restrict the Display codec information and also display bitrate options to the content page(s)only. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
SilverRS8;502122 Wrote: You are probably using Windows 7? Bill has decided to set the display to 125% of its normal size causing many application (especially web based apps) with font sizing issues. I have not found a way yet to reduce this by code for ACC only and I don't think there is a way to do this. If the screen layout does not look like the screenshots on the ACC download page, position your mouse on the ACC screen, hold CTRL and use the scroll wheel to reduce Bills magnification factor. Or ofcourse reduce the Windows maginication to 100% (which sound more normal) I'll create an automatic popup when Windows 7 is detected with this message. About the codec in the table of contents, in my opinion the TOC should only include main data referred to, not meta data. The codec info is however included (if selected) in the Quickref catalog. Does this address your issues? Frank No issues. I edited my post before you answered. The problem before was between the keyboard and the screen (the end user). I'm happy with the resulting catalog layout now. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v2
Maybe I spoke too soon... anyway... this is a different cosmetic issue. I have a couple Spanish albums names that start with either ¡ or ¿. These exclamation and question marks should be ignored and instead the first letter of the Album Name should be used to sort them. See ¡Cubanismo! Albums listed under in the picture below. I use the Genre, Album Artists and Album Name tags to build my folders structures. All my various artists albums in SC and ACC are displayed as expected except for one album. The relevant album tags for this album are: Album Artists: Belly Dance (Various Artist), Album Name: The Best Belly Dance Album in The World... Ever! Vol. 2., the album compilation flag is also set to 1 and every track has the correct Artist associated with it. As you can see in the pics below the SC Web UI lists the Album as expected under the Artist Belly Dance (Various Artist), but it appears that ACC changes the Album Artist tag to Various Artist. Note that ACC does not change the album Roots Of Rumba Rock 2 whose Album Artist tag is displayed correctly as Zaire Classics (Various Artists) and which also has the compilation flag set to 1. I hope, this time, I explained the problem in a way you can understand. +---+ |Filename: sc.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8960| +---+ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73284 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
SilverRS8;498955 Wrote: Just did a run using the folder structure option and cannot reproduce the problem. Can you enlight me on your specific case? I tested with cyrillic characters. What characters did you use? The folders that failed had one or more of the following characters á é í ó ú ü ñ Á ¡ ç ô ã somewhere in their path. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
Thanks Frank, nice update. The only issue I've found, so far, is that the Album Art for albums that have extended characters in their path are not picked up when using the folder structure option. Selecting the option to get the Album Art from the server bypasses the problem. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple acquires lala.com... What's Stevo's next move?
Here is another speculative view of why Apple acquired lala.com http://www.technobuffalo.com/blog/internet/was-lala-googles-foray-into-the-music-business -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72333 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Apple acquires lala.com... What's Stevo's next move?
I can't help, but think that Steve Jobs' next move after the acquisition of lala.com is to go after services like Pandora, Last.FM, Slacker and Spotify. It probably also means that the streaming services are going to be integrated into iTunes. I think this can become another great move by the master because if it works... iTunes will gain a streaming and a music media social environment. I can already picture an iStreamBox that would give the SQBX a run for the money. iTunes with an incorporated stream music server component, would instantly gain the existing iTunes user base...to me it appears as natural evolution of iTunes for the iFolks. The Apple Apps Store could also be easily integrated in the mix in order to distribute Apps similar to plugins for the iStreamBox and/or specialized iPod Docking stations. This apps, like plugins, would enhance the music listening experience for free or for a fee and expand the Apple Apps Universe. Next move down the line for Stevo... iTtunes video streaming What do you think?... Am I dreaming here? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72333 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple acquires lala.com... What's Stevo's next move?
autopilot;493113 Wrote: iTunes already does streaming. Are you talking about a subscription service like Napster/Rhapsody? It already does streaming, but as far as I know, it does not do high bitrates... Adding a high bitrate local server, remote streamed services and adding a new product like an iStreamBox. An iStreamBox with good quality audio components to play music via your AV system is what I'm talking about. Basically a future specialized box for music streaming similar to the AppleTV... Again, I'm just speculating here... I assure you that Apple did not buy lala.com to become just another Napster... It has to be (again I'm specualting) about the enhancement of iTunes integration of these services with iTunes and opening new markets. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72333 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple acquires lala.com... What's Stevo's next move?
Pat, iPhone, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not an iAnything fan, but I admire S. Jobs business moves. He has a captive audience with the iPhone and iPods that are centered around iTunes. What I see him doing is aggregating services for his already captive audience to keep them happy and to also go after other potential customers for devices like the Sonos and SQBX. If you're already an iPhone user... he wants to keep you... and if you're not.. he was to offer other avenues to get you... That's all I'm specualting about here. Will I buy an iStreamBox?... probably no... If Apple successfully integrates what I mentioned above will they be a force to be reckon with... probably yes. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72333 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will There Be a Logitech Open House in MV This Year?
Well, I guess Logitech has deep pockets... but its arms are a bit short. No BBQ for you my friends!...:-)) -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71782 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nicer squeezecenter GUI
Yeap, Moose is still around. I use Moose on a HP TouchSmart Tx2 Notebook. I fold the TX2 screen into tablet(landscape) mode then I go to Moose Tools-View Mode and select Touch Screen. It works great, but is not perfect. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FCC reveals Logitech Squeezebox Radio
Given the current leaked pictures one would be let to assume that... SB3 - S-Touch Boom - Baby Boom (Given the sbrad.jpg it should have integrated speakers) SBC - ? Duet Receiver - ? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FCC reveals Logitech Squeezebox Radio
amcluesent;450439 Wrote: Duet Receiver - ? Into the dumpster! And we will never mention it again :) From what I can gather in this forums I have to agree with you. Notice that I unbundled the Duet product to avoid confusion. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FCC reveals Logitech Squeezebox Radio
dem;450437 Wrote: Also shown in the test report is that it was apparently tested with both an AC adapter and a Battery Power Pack. Are there any leaked pictures of this Battery Power Pack? Is it a build-in battery pack or external? In my experience using rechargeable batteries to listen to streamed music at a decent volume level over Wi-Fi for prolonged periods of time is not very practical. Specially with small (portable) batteries. Who knows, maybe they'll be using a relatively small and light rechargeable battery pack. I wonder what the playing time using the battery pack will be. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FCC reveals Logitech Squeezebox Radio
andynormancx;450449 Wrote: The shot of the bottom of the unit shows a removable door, presumably to access the battery. I see... andynormancx;450449 Wrote: Don't forget that the Radio will have a small LCD screen, rather than the VFD on the Boom. The LCD will use a lot less power than the VFD. The LCD or VFD shouldn't be much of an issue as one can always turn the screen off and still listen to music. Can't say the same thing about the WiFi connection as constant power is required to drive the Wi-Fi adapter to download the stream and keep the connection alive. I read an announcement about a new generation of low power consumption Wi-Fi adpaters. Maybe this box will be using one of those. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FCC reveals Logitech Squeezebox Radio
andynormancx;450473 Wrote: My iPhone will stream audio over wifi for 4-5 hours. It has a much smaller battery than the Radio is likely to have and probably a similar CPU, though admittedly it doesn't have a 10W amp... Wow, I'm impressed... My Smartphone only last about 45 Min using Wi-Fi using Pandora and about 2 hours when using a 3G connection. I guess the iPhone has a better (low-power-drain) WiFi adapter than my Smartphone. The other issue using batteries besides the power amp is going to be if the box plays streamed lossless formats like FLAC. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
ModelCitizen;449730 Wrote: I've returned to this app to see if it'll work for me now and it does! Thanks very much Frank. The catalogue it produces from my library is superb. The only option addition I'd welcome is to be able to choose to have the track listing produced in a larger font size (without needing to adjust it via my browser's settings each time I view the catalogue). For my old eyes the default font size for the track listing (in both Firefox and IE) is just to small to read (this with display settings at 96dpi and browser font size set to normal/medium). MC I also have old eyes. To avoid the font restriction I print a .pdf file of the catalog that can be read, re-sized and searched easily using Adobe reader. I even carry a copy of my catalog in .pdf format in my Smartphone to make sure I don't buy a CD that I already own. It's also useful when buying compilation CDs to make sure you don't already own the majority of the tracks in the compilation. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
ModelCitizen;449933 Wrote: I'm not entirely sure what print pagination is. All I can say that if means print to paper I can't do that as it'd create 226 pages. I did not change from the default AAC pagination settings (as it did not appear I needed to). I also don't know exactly what is meant by print pagination. What I do is a Print Preview and in the preview I adjust the top/bot/sides margins before I print to .pdf file. With the number of pages that you have you'll need to be patient for the Print Preview to adjust the pagination after you adjust the margins. At least the Windows Print Preview gives you a page count down as it adjust the pages. I only reprint the catalog after I have added 4 or more CDs. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
SilverRS8;449943 Wrote: Do you maybe know if it is possible to transfer internal HTML page links to a PDF? I could easily create links from the Table Of Contents entries to the actual catalog entries. However I haven't managed to get these into PDF files so the use is very limited and I did not implemented in in the end. Sorry, I don't know how to transfer links to .pdf, but it sounds like an excellent idea. Searching the catalog in the Smartphone takes a little time. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
ModelCitizen;449960 Wrote: Does the image below help to explain anything? MC I use Firefox for everything else except ACC. With IE the Print Preview show adjustable margin lines and its layout looks a lot different. In Firefox you'll need click the Page Setup and click on the tab for Margins and Headers to adjust the margins so that the pagination will adjust. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
I share Moonbase's feelings also... specially this point... There is no clear path where to go. What are the goals, where is the target market?. The move to SQLite (possibly to accommodate the new product line) and then back to MySQL completely left the existing MySQL users, like myself, wondering what to do. Do I stick with MySQL? Is SQLite the future... and if so why? Because of the new product line?... because NASes need a smaller OS footprint?... because it has better performance?... Should I plan to move to SQLite or not? Nothing has been clearly articulated. The existing user base is confused... I know betas are betas, but there is no clear vision (strategy) to which clear goals (strategy) are attached. What I fear is that the plugin developers will get frustrated with the platform changes. They have either stopped development (enhancements) of their current plugins or have not introduced new ones in quite some time. Palm OS is a great example of developers moving on to greener pastures when Palm failed to communicate a clear vision for them. Look at the number of Palm application and then find how many of those have been enhanced or developed recently. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A rant towards a rescue. Needed. NOW. ... From here to where?
rtitmuss;449205 Wrote: We will be moving to SQLite in a future release of SqueezeCenter, probably 8.0. This change is being made to improve performance, especially on NASes and similar devices. It was decided that the SQLite changes will not be complete for the 7.4 release, which is why we reverted back to MySQL at the moment. Richard This sounds reasonable... but my fear is that Logitech will move the development resources from the current 7.4 MySQL platform to the future SQLite before the 7.4 MySQL is fully baked. Plugin developers might not want to work on a platform that will be sunset in the near future. I think a clearly articulated framework to move the plugins from this platform to the next to lessen the blows would help. I might be way out on left field here... but if the plugins that are developed for officially released 7.4 were to work without much effort on the SQLite platform... it'd be big step forward. The recent move to SQLite broke too many plugins. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
SilverRS8;448825 Wrote: I just posted v1.5a which fixes a number of problems and adds the display of progress information while ACC is processing the data which on large collections can take up considerable time. Below the list of changes: ADDED: Progress information FIXED: When 'Create Table of Contents' was selected, the first catalog page contained preceding empty lines FIXED: Initial window position more towards top of the screen to prevent window from being not fully visible on lower screen resolutions FIXED: Genres were always processed even if the option selected was not to do so costing significant processing time while not necessary. Download available at: http://acc.vanholt.nl/downloads/acc-v15a.zip Frank Frank, I just tested this release and I think you forgot to include the 'á' fix with this build. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
Unless the Boom gets one of those yet-to-be-released new generation low power consumption wifi adapters or uses 3G/4G, I doubt that a mobile option would be practical or make sense to me. The Boom box is first and foremost a streamed digital music player. (Streamed from a local Music Library on a server or streamed from online Internet Radio stations and Service) If you want to play streamed music at a decent volume while connected via wifi... the batteries will drain in no time. Adding a USB port to connect an external USB drive makes sense, but you would still need an AC adapter. A SDHC slot to hold at most 32GB (based on currently available capacities) is not enough storage for me to justify carrying such big box. I carry my mp3 player with portable battery-powered external speakers (not even a dock) for when I want to share my music with others on the go. I tried using my SmartPhone to stream Pandora (using 3G which consumes less power)and it was not practical without an AC adapter. Compact rechargeable battery technology that supports that amount of constant drain for prolonged periods of time... is still not there yet... as far as I know. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
In the last fews weeks, as you can see in their blog, Logitech has announced a bunch of new products. Hopefully an announcement for the Sqeezebox Touch and other new SD related products will come soon. Today Logitech announced the Logitech 900 Universal remote... Basically and improved Harmony One with RF, a couple extra buttons and a higher resolution screen. Besides my SB3 I have a bunch of other components (including a Vudu box that uses RF) that I would like to control with a single remote. This new Harmony has the potential to control everything without jumping to many hurdles. I understand that the Harmony remotes have no WiFi, but I hope that with this remote Logitech will add specific profiles on their Web site fot the old IR Squeezeboxes and the boxex yet to be officially announced. At one point I almost bought the Controller, but I noticed that development of its software has either slowed dramatically or gone underground. What I mean by underground is that maybe the development folks from SD/Logitech are concentrating on products yet to be announced which might also include a new and improved Controller. Again, this is all speculation on my part. I just hope the Logitech announces the new family of SD products soon so that I can make up my mind. http://blog.logitech.com/ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
Phil Leigh;447643 Wrote: Yeah - my Harmony one works fine with SB3 Boom... Good to hear... the last time I tried with my long ago defunct Harmony 880 I had to put the Harmony in learn mode to capture the SB3's remote key functions. The 880 did not last a week. It got stuck in the wrong place on the side of the sofa-bed. We couldn't close the bed one day and gave it a little extra push... it crushed the remote. Soon after that the Controller and the Harmony One were announced and both got my attention... I have been waiting to get a Universal remote or Controller ever since. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
Peter van Cooten;447662 Wrote: O WOW, a EUR 399 (USD 595) remote!! Yeap, is a bit expensive. The MSRP is $399 US, but it'll probably sell for a lot less once it's released. I never paid MSRP for any gadget I ever bought. I never ever buy Apple stuff. It's now listed, but unavailable in Amazon.com for the MSRP. The MSRP of the Harmony One is $249 US, but you can find it for about $180 in many online stores. It'll probably drop a few more $$ once the 900 hits the stores. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Remote-Control-Black/dp/B002IC0YL8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1250007623sr=8-2 -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
grum;447707 Wrote: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/5745cl=nz,en Are we in NZ really the first to see this? Or is it just that everyone else is in bed? Anyway 24/96 support, photos, remote or touchscreen control, looks good... grum I don't find anything in that page to compel me to upgrade to the S-Touch from my SB3 other than the 24/96 support. I mostly interface with the IR remote with my SB3 and with moose or the Web UI from my laptop to interface to the Squeezebox Server. I rarely walk up to the AV cabinet to control anything. The touch screen in the cabinet does not buy me anything. The 24/96 support is nice, but not to die for. I have other ways to display my photos on my TV or computers. Well, I guess I have to wait to see if a new and improved Controller is in the works. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.5 (ACC)
Thanks again SilverRS8... At first glace I could not figure out what the Starting capital option meant, but now that I see it... I like it. Tt works almost perfectly with the new SC 7.4 MySQL builds. Just one little problem... Any artist or album name with the á character in its path\filename is not translated correctly. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66555 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.4 (ACC)
SilverRS8;442880 Wrote: *EDIT* SQLite does not support remote access so this will not be supported but if I understand correctly there will be a choice to use MySQL over SQLite. In that case I will support ACC for future SC versions but only if the DB is MySql based. A work around might be to copy the .db file locally before processing it. See my reply to your post in the Dev thread here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=442996postcount=3 -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65864 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v1.4 (ACC)
I'm now running SC 7.4 SQLite builds, will this new version work from the server if I enter the drive\path to the folder\files of the library in the ACC settings? Any plans to support SQLite? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65864 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] The CR200 Sonos new touchscreen remote
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/02/sonos-cr200-remote-control-with-touchscreen/ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
funkstar;435264 Wrote: What would be the advantage of having such an expensive and cutting edge screen in a device like this? One in a mobile phone I could understand There not supposed to be very expensive... and not so cutting edge... I think that there were actually invented about 10 years ago by Kodak. AMOLED screens are clear and the pixels are faster and brighter than the current generation LCDs. The screens are very thin which allow manufacturer to make smaller (thinner) devices or to use the available extra space to add more circuits boards. In other words, AMOLED screen are the wave of the future... so why not have it on the next generation SB products? funkstar;435264 Wrote: A little bit more weight and a rubbe bottom should be enough. the SB3 isn't designed to be touched, so has no requirment to remain in place when you do. Not all touch screens need pressure. There are two main types of technology: Resistive and capacitive. Resistive ones need pressure, capacitive screen sense the finger on the screen instead, so you don't need to press hard. Although both technologies have their pros and cons. I understand the technology behind the screens, the issue is that the natural-instintive way to interface with touch screen is to apply pressure on them. But... I guess I can get used to not trying to push my index finger to the other side of the screen. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
To further speculate... could that be a AMOLED touch screen? My SB3 sits on my AV system cabinet... if I touch the screen it moves around the shelf as nothing is holding it down. I have to assume that this device is either much heavier than an SB3 or has some mechanism to help it stay in place when one touches it. I won't be getting off the sofa frequently to skip a songs... but when I do... I won't be putting my beer down. The touch screen has to be sensitive enough so that not much finger pressure is required to navigate the menus. I guess one will be able to set it to display even larger fonts than the ones available in the SB3 and that it'll come with its own remote (no remote pictured so far). -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
Nice!... as some here are saying... if this is the remote with a touch screen docked on a wired player/reciever (The dock is a receiver with wired/wireless LAN interfaces)... it would be great. I'd also have to assume, if this is such a monster, that the remote has a WiFi adapter and it's recharged when placed back on the docking station. In this configuration the touch screen would make more sense. Of course, this is all speculation on my part. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Who's going to fill Sean's shoes - technically?
I agree with a lot of the things that are being said here. I own a Harmony remote, a couple of Logitech Mice, UE Super.fi IEMs and, of course, a Squeezebox. Most of these, except for the Mice, were made by companies that Logitech eventually acquired. As Erland mentioned, so far, Logitech has not disappointed and I hope the trend continues. (Not a Logitech fan, per se, just a victim of its acquisitions) Like other early SB adopters, I fear that by making the SB line appeal to the masses it'd loose its edge. But... so far, I have not seen any major change in a direction that would lead me to suspect that the quality of the SB line is being jeopardized by the Logitech acquisition. I feel that in order to get more commercial Logitech does not need to compromise the sound quality, the open software model, the plugins API (modularity) or the plethora of user interfaces. But... it needs to come up with a simple basic (out the box plug n play) setup that any user can put together without the need of an engineering degree. The task is not easy, because the SB interfaces with SC (Local client server setup), with SN (Remote Service Agregator setup) and a mix of these setups when you use SN via SC. To me installing and configuring the connections (SB-SC-SN)-Stereo are the stumbling blocks to the mass market... not the existing hardware/software technology behind SD/Logitech. I bought a Vudu box a few month ago and recently gave my sister one for Mother's day. She was able to install her Vudu box without my help. I can not say the same for the SB3 I gave her last year. The Vudu box has a LAN interface, a stereo interface, a video interface and a RF remote. I have not been able to visit her since Mother's day and so she decided to install the Vudu box herself. She plugged the thing in the wall and to the TV via the HDMI cable (included) and the box walked her through the setup with audio and video from the TV. Setting up and using a Vudu box is a no-brainer. If no video connection exist, the box using audio tells you to check the video connections, if you get video, but not sound, the box displays video instructions to troubleshoot the audio connection. Audio-visual instructions are also given if the box can not connect to the Internet via the LAN. The video and sound streaming technology behind this box is somewhat similar to that of the SB. It even has built-in Pandora, Picasa and Flcker clients, but my sister did not need my help to set up any of these services either. What makes it easy is that the box discovers (detects) the video, sound and network components it needs to connect for the box to be functional. I understand that the SB might not have sufficient resources (intelligence) to build such model and that what I'm suggesting can not be put together overnight, but maybe some of this discovery intelligence can be implemented in the SC or SN. So that after connecting the SB to the AC power and Ethernet...(assuming that DHCP services are available) the SB should be able to somehow connect to the SC (if available) or SN without much fanfare. Once either of these connections is established, the SB box should display messages on its screen to complete the setup. I know, I know... I'm dreaming again. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!
When my friends and/or family visit the Squeezebox is usually one of the topics discussed. Thanks Sean, for such great conversation piece. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63759 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
Well, their Roku video box is not that good either. They recently got Amazon HD content, but their box does not appear to support Dolby 5.1 sound. Tivo and Vudu boxes support Dolby 5.1. I own a Vudu box and I believe it has the best PQ (HDX) for VOD out there. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any new toys coming out from SD
I lean to the side of having the audio solution separated from the video solution. To begin the formats of the source files are different, are processed differently and the different formats will evolve over time and at different pace. A better format for audio or video that requires different hardware might emerge and render half of the combined Audio/Video box obsolete. Like many others I believe that disc (CD/DVD/BR) media is on its way out. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but eventually. There are several solutions related to video content that have already been mentioned here. Recording off the air/cable/Intenet (DVR-like) purchasing the content (DVD/Blueray) and VOD. Having a mix of all these in one box is something that companies like Tivo are trying to tackle. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but having a solution similar to the Squeezebox solution for video is a bit more complicated. To begin, ripping DVDs is not as straight forward as ripping CDs. Most DVDs have copy protection and copyright restrictions that currently would make the development of a legal and commercially viable DVD ripping program almost impossible. The number of licenses required to produce such product will require the legal team from hell because the movie studios copyright contracts are very complex and restricts the way of how, when and for how long you can use their content. VOD streams and digital video purchases are tied to the ID of one single box. If you buy a digital video for box x you can not play it in box y. Even if the box is made by the same vendor. I doubt that this will change much in the near future as the movie studios learned a valuable lesson from what happened to the music studios. They know that content is king and will protect the goose that lays the golden video eggs at all cost. Dream As I mentioned in another thread, Logitech should try to acquire a company like Vudu that already has a purchasing video service, a VOD service and a box with some of best video quality (HDX) around. They can enhance the Vudu box (or a similar product) and make it a video companion box to the Squeezebox and build a single user interface to control both. Not a browser-based interface, but something with an interface like the one on the Tivo or Vudu boxes which can be controlled with a single remote while interfacing with the TV or a Computer. I might be a little bit biased here because I own a Vudu box, but I like their pay as you go VOD and their SD/HD/HDX video purchase models. Adding an off the air/cable/Intenet (DVR-like) module that saves content on a server will make it a full audio-video solution. /Dream -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62455 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
chroma;416068 Wrote: my experience has been that once a collection becomes extremely large (ie, 25k tracks), musicip is rather error prone, and Genius is excellent. i also use a mac, and the musicip implementation is rather poor. What do you mean by error prone?... Delays?... Picks tracks that you were not expecting? Fails to pick tracks? Have you tried MusicIP using the more stable Windows platform? I have listened to Genius generated mixes, but the resulting Genius mixes are not as diverse as the ones that I get from MusicIP. If I don't set any limitations on variety, I get to listen to tracks in my library that I never knew I had. My FLAC library is ~230GB. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. MusicIP bases its mixes on sound signature tags (or if not embedded on tags, on an index of signatures associated with the tracks). The mixes are generated locally using these signatures. No need to be connected to the MusicIP server to generate mixes. I'm not too familiar with the technology behind Genius. How exactly are Genius mixes generated? Do they require a connection to iTunes... and if so why? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any new toys coming out from SD
How about a Controller-Universal Remote. Now that Logitech owns SD a SqueezeHarmony remote with a numbers keypad and touchscreen shouldn't be so hard to do. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62455 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sonos 2.8
Nothing new to write home about... just FYI http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/14/sonos-2-8-adds-deezer-radio-to-multi-room-systems-in-europe-upd/ -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62404 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
erland;414250 Wrote: The question is just what it's worth without the lead developers of MusicIP. If the knowlege of the MusicIP architecture and source code has been transfered to other persons in the company there has to be a business opportunity for Logitech. However, if this isn't the case the value for Logitech might just be the patents and algorithms behind the mixing and analyzing logic, which might be hard to use without the lead developers. The fact that nothing has been released for almost a year is a bit worrying. MusicIP is unique and it offers a mixing functionality which is something SqueezeCenter IMHO really needs to take the next step. I agree that it would be a lot harder to integrate without the lead developers and lead architect. But... assuming there is nothing there execept for the patents and algorithms... Logitech can dedicate a small developers team to decipher the architecture and code. This way they can save themselves the time and pain required to develop something similar from scratch. What if a competitor like Sonos were to get a hold of MusicIP's intellectual capital? They might modify the server to restrict existing clients. Not to mention that if they own the patents they might use them to extract licensing fees. Of course, I'm speculating here as I don't know if MusicIP is available for purchasing or licensing. If it were available, during negotiations and under a NDA, Logitech can uncover details to see if it is worth acquiring it or licensing it. Again, I'm not disagreeing with your statements above, I just like to be a little bit more optimistic and believe that there is something there that Logitech can use to enhance SC. Withhout having to re-invent the wheel, Logitech could integrate MusicIP in SC and even keep MusicIP as an independent entity to generate additional revenue if they acquire them. Something similar to what Logitech did with SD. With a little injection of capital and some good marketing MusicIP can be into a standard for digital music mixes... not only for SC, but for other digital music player. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
Wirrunna;414004 Wrote: Phil, it will still analyze music only slower. I maintain a PC and SB3 at a friend's beach house with no internet access and new music is still analyzed and able to be mixed. Correct, but not having the MusicIP server to accelerate the analysis will make it very inconvenient for new users with large libraries to integrate the MusicIP function and for existing user that want to listen to mixes based on new library additions ASAP. Dream It also removes the possibility of adding a suggest-a-track function/service based on the signatures of tracks in the MusicIP server database. In other words, an enhanced client could be developed that would display the name(s) and link(s) to sample previews of one or several tracks in the MusicIP server which have similar signatures to that of the currently playing song. /Dream I'd also add my name to the list of those that can't live without MusicIP and without its excellent derivative the SugarCube plugin. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss