Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-14 Thread kwolter


d6jg wrote: 
> There is an option in pCP to auto play an LMS favourite at start up

Yes, under the Tweaks tab you'll see the entry about half way down.

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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-09 Thread d6jg


kwolter wrote: 
> Curious how you do this?  I use the Squeezebox plugin on Homeseer, but
> curious if there are other ways???

There is an option in pCP to auto play an LMS favourite at start up



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-06 Thread kwolter


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> ...I use PiCorePlayer in many rooms of my house and have them set up to
> start certain RadioStations, or Playlists on my Raspberry Pies... 

Curious how you do this?  I use the Squeezebox plugin on Homeseer, but
curious if there are other ways???



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-03 Thread threshold350


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Roon just gave me a 3 month trial for $2 So, I've fiddled with
> again. This time in depth to see what all the fuss is about and to
> understand its capabilities.  Almost everyone that uses Roon Likes it,
> except those that have used PiCorePlayer (which is me).  -- Roon is for
> people that are Music Lovers and want to look at Metadata to find out
> the name of the Vocalists, Horn Players etc. -- Links to other Albums
> that creators of the current album have created etc. etc. --- That sort
> of Stuff. It has no interface to Tunein Radio (Which I use to find radio
> stations all over the World). I really dislike Roon's Separate Play
> Queue from Selecting Music. You have to go back and forth. Select the
> Music on one screen. Look at the Play queue on another Screen/ I really
> like the LMS Split Screen for Play Queue and Music Selection.
> 
> Where Roon really falls on its face, is the inability to control the
> Music Player from a technical standpoint. I use PiCorePlayer in many
> rooms of my house and have them set up to start certain RadioStations,
> or Playlists on my Raspberry Pies... Roon cannpt do any such thing. With
> Hundreds of Settings and Many Pluggins you can configure PiCorePlayer to
> your Taste.. Roon will Play music that you select. That's All... And
> mostly that's what the masses want.

>From what I saw at Axpona in the rooms that used Roon, it was an easy
way to search for a particular track.  Majority of the tracks were
played from Qobuz to play the hi-rea version.  


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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-03 Thread Cut-Throat

chicks wrote: 
> Roon client is a bloated pig, requires the Linux port of Windows .NET
> runtime. What a mess. 
> 
> LMS client is native Linux, tiny, easily installed. The obvious first
> choice technically. 
> 
> Sadly, influential reviewers all use Roon, so it is marketing’s first
> choice.

Roon just gave me a 3 month trial for $2 So, I've fiddled with
again. This time in depth to see what all the fuss is about and to
understand its capabilities.  Almost everyone that uses Roon Likes it,
except those that have used PiCorePlayer (which is me).  -- Roon is for
people that are Music Lovers and want to look at Metadata to find out
the name of the Vocalists, Horn Players etc. -- Links to other Albums
that creators of the current album have created etc. etc. --- That sort
of Stuff. It has no interface to Tunein Radio (Which I use to find radio
stations all over the World). I really dislike Roon's Separate Play
Queue from Selecting Music. You have to go back and forth. Select the
Music on one screen. Look at the Play queue on another Screen/ I really
like the LMS Split Screen for Play Queue and Music Selection.

Where Roon really falls on its face, is the inability to control the
Music Player from a technical standpoint. I use PiCorePlayer in many
rooms of my house and have them set up to start certain RadioStations,
or Playlists on my Raspberry Pies... Roon cannpt do any such thing. With
Hundreds of Settings and Many Pluggins you can configure PiCorePlayer to
your Taste.. Roon will Play music that you select. That's All... And
mostly that's what the masses want.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-03 Thread threshold350

chicks wrote: 
> Roon client is a bloated pig, requires the Linux port of Windows .NET
> runtime. What a mess. 
> 
> LMS client is native Linux, tiny, easily installed. The obvious first
> choice technically. 
> 
> Sadly, influential reviewers all use Roon, so it is marketing’s first
> choice.

IMO, if the attention is get approval of audio reviewers, Wiim better
have this singing like $1000 streamer and not sound like an Alexa puck. 
Or if the attention is to appease Amir to review for the ASR peeps since
he couldn’t recommend in his last review, that is a tough audience.  
Making a product for 2 type of audiences hasn’t been done…yet.  The
hi-fi group will buy a product based on the numbers.  The audiophile
group will buy by based on how it sounds.  Making a product for the
subjective and objective reviewer hasn’t gone well based on everything
I’ve read in the forums.  

I agree.   Adding the Squeezelite client should be easily added.  They
wouldn’t even have to add to their app to use.  Just install the client
and ppl who use LMS will be able to use.  Ppl who don’t have LMS, they
don’t even notice it’s there. 


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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-03 Thread chicks

Roon client is a bloated pig, requires the Linux port of Windows .NET
runtime. What a mess. 

LMS client is native Linux, tiny, easily installed. The obvious first
choice technically. 

Sadly, influential reviewers all use Roon, so it is marketing’s first
choice.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-12-03 Thread whitman


Over at the WiiM forum they've just posted this update on
LMS/Squeezelite implementation:

"We'll raise this with our team. Our current plan is to work on this
after we complete the "Roon Ready" effort and hope to get it done in the
Q1, 23. We'll see if we can get it released earlier. Please stay
tuned!"

Fingers crossed even more tightly than usual.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-30 Thread d6jg


I have put more info about the current options for using the WiiM Mini
with LMS into 3rd Party Hardware -
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116997-Wiim-Mini-and-Pro

Basically it can be made to work with LMS as it stands with both the
AirPlay bridge and uPnP bridge but as usual both have compromises. 

It is however confirmed as running a version of Linux so the inclusion
of Squeezelite at some future time should be possible and is now on
their roadmap. If this happens then yes it will be just like any other
SB player device with no compromises on the audio front although I don't
suppose it will be possible to pass metadata to the WiiM App but
personally I don't think that matters when you are going to be using
Material on the same phone/tablet anyway. It will be just like
squeezelite running on a Pi without a touch screen.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-30 Thread Paul Webster


That's the idea.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-30 Thread kwolter


whitman wrote: 
> Wiim have a new forum at a new site, and the discussion about adding
> LMS/Squeezelite capability to its Mini (and forthcoming Pro) has been
> given a new thread there. Would be good if we added some more posts
> there to encourage Wiim to get on with this!
> 
> https://wiim.community.forum/threads/lms-squeezelite-support.26/
> 
> I've also added this to the 3rd Party Hardware section here, which might
> be more relevant.

Curious about your comment.  Would Squeezelite capability therefore
integrate into LMS and these devices would just be an LMS endpoint then?



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-21 Thread d6jg


chicks wrote: 
> OK, just tested the Airplay bridge->WiiM Mini.  Works OK, except no
> album art displayed.  Album art displays fine with UPnP, and of course,
> UPnP will work up to the 24/192 limit of the WiiM.  I think the only
> thing I had to configure for UPnP with the WiiM was to turn gapless off,
> as it would quit at the end of every song with it enabled.
> 
> 39178

The lack of gapless is quite a significant flaw if you are an album
person.

The screenshot you have included - is it from the WiiM App? Do you see
cover art in Material?



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-20 Thread chicks

OK, just tested the Airplay bridge->WiiM Mini.  Works OK, except no
album art displayed.  Album art displays fine with UPnP, and of course,
UPnP will work up to the 24/192 limit of the WiiM.  I think the only
thing I had to configure for UPnP with the WiiM was to turn gapless off,
as it would quit at the end of every song with it enabled.

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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-20 Thread d6jg

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Note: AirPlay plugin supports LMS sync to other players but UPnP bridge
> does not. Might be important to some.

The AirPlay bridge is also much easier to get working correctly! It
either works or doesn’t.
The upnpbridge however is an absolute pig (not because of Phillips,s
code but because the protocol sucks)



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-20 Thread Paul Webster


chicks wrote: 
> It supports UPnP, wouldn't bother with the more limited Airplay.  UPnP
> works nicely, LMS->WiiM Mini.

Note: AirPlay plugin supports LMS sync to other players but UPnP bridge
does not. Might be important to some.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-20 Thread d6jg


chicks wrote: 
> It supports UPnP, wouldn't bother with the more limited Airplay.  UPnP
> works nicely, LMS->WiiM Mini.

Do you have it working perfectly with the UpnpBridge or are there any
compromises? 
If so can you publish the fragment from the bridge.xml file



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-20 Thread chicks

d6jg wrote: 
> Reading the specs I see this has Airplay 2. Has anyone tried it with
> Phillipe’s Airplay bridge? I know the bridge is Airplay 1 only but often
> devices are backward compatible

It supports UPnP, wouldn't bother with the more limited Airplay.  UPnP
works nicely, LMS->WiiM Mini.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-20 Thread d6jg

Reading the specs I see this has Airplay 2. Has anyone tried it with
Phillipe’s Airplay bridge? I know the bridge is Airplay 1 only but often
devices are backward compatible



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-19 Thread Gobuleberbu

If they add it, it will indeed be an excellent news.  

The company behind it is https://www.linkplay.com/homeaudio

They are behind a plethora of products, Smart speakers A/V receivers,
streamers (Marshall, Arylic, Belkin, Harman Kardon, Yamaha).




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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-15 Thread Apesbrain


whitman wrote: 
> And Squeezelite implementation now officially on WiiM's "roadmap" for
> future stuff...
> 
> https://wiimhome.com/Roadmap
Great news!



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-15 Thread whitman


And Squeezelite implementation now officially on WiiM's "roadmap" for
future stuff...

https://wiimhome.com/Roadmap



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-07 Thread whitman


A promising note from Support over at the WiiM Mini forum:

"Your suggestion on the Squeezelite is well noted. I'll raise it with
our team and we should be able to support it via the software update.
Please stay tuned!"



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-02 Thread chicks

d6jg wrote: 
> Do you know what the device OS is built on?

'Tina Linux' (https://github.com/Tina-Linux)



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-02 Thread whitman


D6jg, 'fraid I don't know. I imagine someone at Wiim could answer that.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-02 Thread d6jg

whitman wrote: 
> Wiim have a new forum at a new site, and the discussion about adding
> LMS/Squeezelite capability to its Mini (and forthcoming Pro) has been
> given a new thread there. Would be good if we added some more posts
> there to encourage Wiim to get on with this!
> 
> https://wiim.community.forum/threads/lms-squeezelite-support.26/
> 
> I've also added this to the 3rd Party Hardware section here, which might
> be more relevant.

Do you know what the device OS is built on? Linux, Android etc 

If it’s Linux then shoehorning Squeezelite into it shouldn’t be that
difficult but Android is a different matter.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-11-02 Thread whitman


Wiim have a new forum at a new site, and the discussion about adding
LMS/Squeezelite capability to its Mini (and forthcoming Pro) has been
given a new thread there. Would be good if we added some more posts
there to encourage Wiim to get on with this!

https://wiim.community.forum/threads/lms-squeezelite-support.26/

I've also added this to the 3rd Party Hardware section here, which might
be more relevant.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-10-25 Thread chicks

threshold350 wrote: 
> I wonder if LMS (squeezelite) is on the road map for the Pro.  I didn’t
> see a price either.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Target price is $149, due to be on Amazon by early Dec.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-10-25 Thread threshold350

I wonder if LMS (squeezelite) is on the road map for the Pro.  I didn’t
see a price either.  


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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-10-23 Thread whitman


I see they have a new higher-end product in the works...

https://wiim.community.forum/threads/wiim-pro-preview.9/



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-10-02 Thread foxesden


Yeah I have found that the issue is that the Wiim was connecting to a
remote node in my mesh network. It was tricky to resolve, as the Wiim
doesn't have an option to reset the Network, even following a reboot. So
I had to turn the Mesh off and connect the Wiim to a different wifi
network by resetting it - the wifi settings are not cleared by a factory
reset so this took me a while to figure out.

I also just found out that my TP Link deco have a firmware update that
would allow me to map devices to specific nodes in the Mesh network,
which would probably have been easier to do if I had upgraded earlier.

Anyway it doesn't appear to be a Wiim issue.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-10-02 Thread chicks

foxesden wrote: 
> I have just bought and setup a Wiim Mini. There is no native Squeezelite
> support yet, it is still relying on UPNP Bridge for running, and I am
> getting intermittent dropouts. I have posted this on the WiiM forum.
> 
> Potentially it is something else as the device is new.

I've never had a dropout running this same way.  I use 5GHz band, with
mesh router in same room, and never go over 16/44.1, so YMMV, but doubt
the dropouts are caused by the WiiM.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-10-02 Thread foxesden


I have just bought and setup a Wiim Mini. There is no native Squeezelite
support yet, it is still relying on UPNP Bridge for running, and I am
getting intermittent dropouts. I have posted this on the WiiM forum.

Potentially it is something else as the device is new.



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Re: [slim] Adding a Wiim Mini to your LMS system

2022-09-22 Thread Apesbrain


According to the WiiM forum thread above, the latest Mini firmware has
enhanced its support of LMS.  It's not clear whether they are still
relying on the "UPnP/DLNA bridge".  Can a Mini owner test this?  Thanks.



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