Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-22 Thread agillis

pski;677485 Wrote: 
 And by the way you and everyone else are incapable of hearing the
 difference.
 
 P

I agree that I'm not capable of hearing the difference. But the
original poster asked for a low jitter 24/192 playback solution. That's
what I described. If the OP had asked me what I use I would say a $20
USB to SPDIF converter. That's all I need for my $1500 stereo system.


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-18 Thread firedog

Another option is to build it with the SOtM USB PCI card and then
connect it directly to a USB DAC. The card is a noise/electricity
regulated alternative to standard noisy USB.


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-17 Thread mbonsack

Any movement on gapless and sync support for the VortexBox player being
served up by LMS (not MPD)?

If only SqueezeSlave did high-rez :-) 

Thanks! -mark


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-17 Thread Ron Olsen

mbonsack;677438 Wrote: 
 Any movement on gapless and sync support for the VortexBox player being
 served up by LMS (not MPD)?
 
 If only SqueezeSlave did high-rez :-) 
 
 Thanks! -mark

I don't think gapless FLAC playback and sync with VB Player using LMS
is ever going to happen due to fundamental limitations of the LMS - MPD
- VortexBox Player architecture.


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-17 Thread pski

agillis;677121 Wrote: 
 If you used a VortexBox Appliance and a SOtM USB to SPDIF converter you
 would have extremely lower jitter and up to 24/384 playback capability.
 That is what we use for testing in our lab here.
 
 http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SOtM-USB-Digital-Interface-SOtM-USB.htm
 
 You may also be able to get good playback with VortexBox running on
 other hardware and a different USB to SPDIF converter.

And by the way you and everyone else are incapable of hearing the
difference.

P


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-17 Thread Wombat

pski;677485 Wrote: 
 And by the way you and everyone else are incapable of hearing the
 difference.
Hehe! :) pski seems to know more about sound as many others out there!
Cheers pski, turn it up!


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[slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-15 Thread lovemov

Have been with Squeezeboxes for many years now, I think I will finally
move on. Well, I still love my SB3 and SBT and keep them in separate
setup. But for the main stereo setup, I'd like to explore something new
and capable.

What I need is reasonable priced (I'd say less than $1500), streaming
as good as SB/SBT, and with low jitter 24/192 digital output capability
(if can do 24/284 is even better), an outboard DAC will be used. 

I was looking at Linn DS series, but they are so overpriced, and most
of the cost goes to build-in DAC/Amp etc which I really don't care.

Please post your opinion and thoughts.


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-15 Thread garym

lovemov;677017 Wrote: 
 Have been with Squeezeboxes for many years now, I think I will finally
 move on. Well, I still love my SB3 and SBT and keep them in separate
 setup. But for the main stereo setup, I'd like to explore something new
 and capable.
 
 What I need is reasonable priced (I'd say less than $1500), streaming
 as good as SB/SBT, and with low jitter 24/192 digital output capability
 (if can do 24/284 is even better), an outboard DAC will be used. 
 
 I was looking at Linn DS series, but they are so overpriced, and most
 of the cost goes to build-in DAC/Amp etc which I really don't care.
 
 Please post your opinion and thoughts.

Vortexbox Appliance with latest VB software can do 24/384 via its built
in vortexbox player.  Problem is that the box is very quiet, but not
perfectly silent, so I'm not sure I'd want in my listening room. 
(although, as many will point out, if you can hear any differences
between 24/96 and 24/192 or higher you should donate your body to
science for further study...  ;-)


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-15 Thread lovemov

Hmm, seems an interesting product. 
Looks like the Vortexbox software can be installed onto self-built PC
so it can be fan less?

While the primary goal to have SB/SBT in the system is to prevent from
using any HTPC concept. I honestly can't tell the different between
24/96 and 24/192 for most recordings, however, the jitter produced by
SBT indeed can be heard using a good DAC. So the purpose is not only
for a 24/192 capable digital transport, more importantly, for a lower
jitter transport.



garym;677027 Wrote: 
 Vortexbox Appliance with latest VB software can do 24/384 via its built
 in vortexbox player (and you can still manage it with LMS library that
 you use for other SB players).  Problem is that the box is very quiet,
 but not perfectly silent, so I'm not sure I'd want in my listening
 room.  (although, as many will point out, if you can hear any
 differences between 24/96 and 24/192 or higher you should donate your
 body to science for further study...  ;-)


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-15 Thread garym

Correct about installing VB on silent PC (e.g., FitPC). You might post
on the vortexbox forums (although Andrew posts here as well) asking
about the VB Player issue when running on something other than a VBA. 
I'd assume this is not hardware dependent but not sure.


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Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?

2011-12-15 Thread agillis

If you used a VortexBox Appliance and a SOtM USB to SPDIF converter you
would have extremely lower jitter and up to 24/384 playback capability.
That is what we use for testing in our lab here.

http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SOtM-USB-Digital-Interface-SOtM-USB.htm

You may also be able to get good playback with VortexBox running on
other hardware and a different USB to SPDIF converter.


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