Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
pski;677485 Wrote: And by the way you and everyone else are incapable of hearing the difference. P I agree that I'm not capable of hearing the difference. But the original poster asked for a low jitter 24/192 playback solution. That's what I described. If the OP had asked me what I use I would say a $20 USB to SPDIF converter. That's all I need for my $1500 stereo system. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover artÂ… All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
Another option is to build it with the SOtM USB PCI card and then connect it directly to a USB DAC. The card is a noise/electricity regulated alternative to standard noisy USB. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, Grant Fidelity B-283MKII bufferClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
Any movement on gapless and sync support for the VortexBox player being served up by LMS (not MPD)? If only SqueezeSlave did high-rez :-) Thanks! -mark -- mbonsack mbonsack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1398 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
mbonsack;677438 Wrote: Any movement on gapless and sync support for the VortexBox player being served up by LMS (not MPD)? If only SqueezeSlave did high-rez :-) Thanks! -mark I don't think gapless FLAC playback and sync with VB Player using LMS is ever going to happen due to fundamental limitations of the LMS - MPD - VortexBox Player architecture. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
agillis;677121 Wrote: If you used a VortexBox Appliance and a SOtM USB to SPDIF converter you would have extremely lower jitter and up to 24/384 playback capability. That is what we use for testing in our lab here. http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SOtM-USB-Digital-Interface-SOtM-USB.htm You may also be able to get good playback with VortexBox running on other hardware and a different USB to SPDIF converter. And by the way you and everyone else are incapable of hearing the difference. P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
pski;677485 Wrote: And by the way you and everyone else are incapable of hearing the difference. Hehe! :) pski seems to know more about sound as many others out there! Cheers pski, turn it up! -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer SPK240 - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
Have been with Squeezeboxes for many years now, I think I will finally move on. Well, I still love my SB3 and SBT and keep them in separate setup. But for the main stereo setup, I'd like to explore something new and capable. What I need is reasonable priced (I'd say less than $1500), streaming as good as SB/SBT, and with low jitter 24/192 digital output capability (if can do 24/284 is even better), an outboard DAC will be used. I was looking at Linn DS series, but they are so overpriced, and most of the cost goes to build-in DAC/Amp etc which I really don't care. Please post your opinion and thoughts. -- lovemov lovemov's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
lovemov;677017 Wrote: Have been with Squeezeboxes for many years now, I think I will finally move on. Well, I still love my SB3 and SBT and keep them in separate setup. But for the main stereo setup, I'd like to explore something new and capable. What I need is reasonable priced (I'd say less than $1500), streaming as good as SB/SBT, and with low jitter 24/192 digital output capability (if can do 24/284 is even better), an outboard DAC will be used. I was looking at Linn DS series, but they are so overpriced, and most of the cost goes to build-in DAC/Amp etc which I really don't care. Please post your opinion and thoughts. Vortexbox Appliance with latest VB software can do 24/384 via its built in vortexbox player. Problem is that the box is very quiet, but not perfectly silent, so I'm not sure I'd want in my listening room. (although, as many will point out, if you can hear any differences between 24/96 and 24/192 or higher you should donate your body to science for further study... ;-) -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
Hmm, seems an interesting product. Looks like the Vortexbox software can be installed onto self-built PC so it can be fan less? While the primary goal to have SB/SBT in the system is to prevent from using any HTPC concept. I honestly can't tell the different between 24/96 and 24/192 for most recordings, however, the jitter produced by SBT indeed can be heard using a good DAC. So the purpose is not only for a 24/192 capable digital transport, more importantly, for a lower jitter transport. garym;677027 Wrote: Vortexbox Appliance with latest VB software can do 24/384 via its built in vortexbox player (and you can still manage it with LMS library that you use for other SB players). Problem is that the box is very quiet, but not perfectly silent, so I'm not sure I'd want in my listening room. (although, as many will point out, if you can hear any differences between 24/96 and 24/192 or higher you should donate your body to science for further study... ;-) -- lovemov lovemov's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
Correct about installing VB on silent PC (e.g., FitPC). You might post on the vortexbox forums (although Andrew posts here as well) asking about the VB Player issue when running on something other than a VBA. I'd assume this is not hardware dependent but not sure. -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
If you used a VortexBox Appliance and a SOtM USB to SPDIF converter you would have extremely lower jitter and up to 24/384 playback capability. That is what we use for testing in our lab here. http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SOtM-USB-Digital-Interface-SOtM-USB.htm You may also be able to get good playback with VortexBox running on other hardware and a different USB to SPDIF converter. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover artÂ… All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss