Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
haunyack wrote: [diatribe snipped] Once you're over your anger (try kicking the cat) perhaps you'd like to give us some diagnostics? Platform (O/S, server spec, etc)? Server version? Your infrastructure (wired/wireless)? Any useful log msgs? FWIW, I have a Transporter and run the latest trunk version of SC, updating regularly (usually daily), and I've never seen a total stop like that. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
haunyack;262018 Wrote: SC 7 (apparently on it's own) stopped cold. 1 1/2 hours later, after uninstalling SC7 and clean install SS 6.5 the music was back. Yea I know ...SC7 beta , bla bla bla. I've spent $2500.00+ on hardware...the software is worthless in my experience. I must be missing something. You've spent $2500 on hardware which seems to work fine with the manufacturer's official software release, but you are complaining that the beta version which has been released for bug checking has bugs? I don't get it. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
haunyack;262018 Wrote: Here's a pointer for the dev team - find another line of work! I'm flamebait at this point I know but here goes. My (Logitech) credibility took another hit tonight as I was hosting a house party. Everyone (140+) having a great time, drinking, dancing, eating, conversing then suddenly the music stops. Huh? - no music? I run to the server and find all is well. SC 7 (apparently on it's own) stopped cold. Would not serve anything. Sorry about the music going away, I'll have it back up in no time 1 1/2 hours later, after uninstalling SC7 and clean install SS 6.5 the music was back. Yea I know ...SC7 beta , bla bla bla. Shit this fucking pisses me off! I'm sick and fucking tired of babysitting this so-called open solution Hire a few professional coders and get rid of the worldwide cluster-fuck of ameteur hackers that comprise this band-aid solution. I've spent $2500.00+ on hardware...the software is worthless in my experience. I'm fucking sick of it! btw ...erm my language? - get over it. . I think you're pathetic accusing others for your own mistake. Like you say it yourself SS6.5 works fine, SC7 does not. So you actually expect software in beta stage to work flawless? I don't think there will be any user who actually agrees with you on software malfunctioning in beta stage. I really don't understand what you want to achieve with your choice of words besides letting know what person you are. Frank P.S. Can someone moderate the language used in the first post or remove the whole thread? -- SilverRS8 Author of AlbumCatalogCreator for SlimServer SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
Honestly, if you had been using the latest stable release one could understand your desire to vent anger over here. Once you go into beta territory, you really are on your own. If you don't have what it takes to handle it, quite simply, don't go there. And this is coming from someone who tends to side with customers rather than companies. But there are limits. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
haunyack;262018 Wrote: Here's a pointer for the dev team - find another line of work! I'm flamebait at this point I know but here goes. My (Logitech) credibility took another hit tonight as I was hosting a house party. Everyone (140+) having a great time, drinking, dancing, eating, conversing then suddenly the music stops. Huh? - no music? I run to the server and find all is well. SC 7 (apparently on it's own) stopped cold. Would not serve anything. Sorry about the music going away, I'll have it back up in no time 1 1/2 hours later, after uninstalling SC7 and clean install SS 6.5 the music was back. Yea I know ...SC7 beta , bla bla bla. Shit this fucking pisses me off! I'm sick and fucking tired of babysitting this so-called open solution Hire a few professional coders and get rid of the worldwide cluster-fuck of ameteur hackers that comprise this band-aid solution. I've spent $2500.00+ on hardware...the software is worthless in my experience. I'm fucking sick of it! btw ...erm my language? - get over it. . What an idiot. Dont you know what Beta means? clearly not. I cant really say much more than that, other than im amazed it took you 1 1/2 hours to install 6.5, complete dork. People like you should be banned from the forums, but that would be undemocratic unfortunately. At least you gave me a good laugh, as the only cluster cluster-fuck here is yourself. -- autopilot SLIMSERVER:[/B] 7.0 APLHA (WINDOWS XP) + ALIENBBC, SLIMSCROBBLER LAST.FM. *AMP:* CAMBRIDGE AUDIO 640A (LIVING ROOM) / DENON MD30 (BEDROOM). *SPEAKERS:* MISSION 701'S (LIVING ROOM) / KEF CRESTA 1'S (BEDROOM). *REMOTE:* T-MOBILE MDA VARIO / HARMONY 525 (IR) / *BETA TESTING JIVE REMOTE. [B]Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
haunyack;262018 Wrote: Yea I know ...SC7 beta , bla bla bla. [snip] btw ...erm my language? - get over it. Sounds like you could take your own advice here: get over it! -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
Robin Bowes wrote: haunyack wrote: [diatribe snipped] Once you're over your anger (try kicking the cat) perhaps you'd like to give us some diagnostics? Platform (O/S, server spec, etc)? Server version? Your infrastructure (wired/wireless)? Any useful log msgs? FWIW, I have a Transporter and run the latest trunk version of SC, updating regularly (usually daily), and I've never seen a total stop like that. I have, spontaneously rebooting sb3's. I have my doubts about the stability of SC 7.0. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
haunyack;262018 Wrote: btw ...erm my language? - get over it. Sorry, no I won't. It's not about your underlying problem - it's clearly very frustrating and I support your right to come on here and vent - it's a discussion forum for users to give feedback after all. But what on earth makes you think using that kind of language is ok and the rest of us should just deal with it? I don't want to read that kind of stuff, both on a personal level and because it's just another example of a gradual but continual societal slide, that makes people think it's -ok- to use those words because you're angry. It's not. The reason these forums work so well is because, whatever disagreements and frustrations bubble up, the people here mostly get that you need to have a fundamental and basic level of respect for each other when posting. On a personal level, I'd be grateful if you'd edit the post and then we all can get back to bashing the stability of SC7 and whether you should expect a beta to perform as a release verion. Speaking for myself, SC7 is close to being a release candidate, so I'm not sure it's as straightforward as saying it's a beta, what did you expect?. I don't think you should expect a total service failure at this stage of development for no reason (assuming you're running a recent beta). Can you describe better what happened? If SC7 stopped, how did you try to restart it? Did anyone at the party have access to the server or the front end to select tunes - if so, what were they doing when SC went down? Was the SC service and MYSQL running/paused/stopped in Windows Services? Was there any error message when you tried to restart? What about in the Windows Event Log (you run on Windows right)? -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
I have, spontaneously rebooting sb3's. I have my doubts about the stability of SC 7.0. Rebooting boxes most likely isn't a SC problem, but either firmware or connectivity. Crashing SC is a SC problem. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
Siduhe;262040 Wrote: Speaking for myself, SC7 is close to being a release candidate, so I'm not sure it's as straightforward as saying it's a beta, what did you expect?. I disagree. I don't think anyone has a right to expect reliable performance from a beta until it ceases to be a beta. Any serious failure at this late stage of development is a serious concern and should be highlighted as such, but customers should not -complain- about failings in anything other than properly released software, and even then they should do so in a civil manner. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
Here is how I read your post haunyack: Guys I'm posting to remind you all of what an incredibly stupid and obnoxious person I am. I hosted a 140+ people houseparty using beta software. When the SC7 beta crashed. Instead of accepting responsibility for my own actions, I blamed the folks over at Logitech. I went one step further though and went online and insulted them, used foul language and to add insult to injury I embarrassed myself, my family and my education by exposing my complete lack reason. Why? Because I've had no decent upbringing that's why. My parents taught me to always blame whatever happens to me on someone else. The reason being is that I have a God complex. No-one ever punished me for doing anything wrong for fear of damaging my inner-child. So now I go around blaming everything on everyone else. Here is a pointer for you. Even if you were running the manufacturer's recommended version of Slimserver it could have crashed. If you are the host of the party you should have had a plan B for that. PS. The way you spell embarrassed is embarrassing. And ameteur is spelled amateur you amateur. -- Bas Horneman Bas Horneman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
As it appears to have been about 2:30am when haunyack posted this, I conclude that this was a knee-jerk response, fuelled by embarrassment... and probably alcohol. Let's hope haunyack comes back into the forum in the morning and removes the, frankly unnecessary, bad language; even if the main point of the rant still stands. It's easy to say it's a beta, you should know better but we're all guilty of becoming complacent about these things, especially when they normally work so well, which makes it even more frustrating when they go pear-shaped. If SC7 really is as close to release candidate phase as suggested then this is something that needs careful (and calmer) analysis. -- simbo simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
I rate this thread 5 stars :D -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
As an end to this thread (hopefully), I would like to say, and I WILL go out on the limb and represent the mass's, I appreciate all the developers and SD employee's hard work. The product is not perfect (yet) but it brings a smile to my face just about every time I use it. Thank You! Scott -- sfraser 2 Chan. System SB3-Benchmark DAC-1- Bryston(BP-25,3B)-PMC TB2 Home theater System SB2- Bryston(SP1,4B,4B)- PSB Stratus Goldi sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
Michael Herger wrote: I have, spontaneously rebooting sb3's. I have my doubts about the stability of SC 7.0. Rebooting boxes most likely isn't a SC problem, but either firmware or connectivity. Crashing SC is a SC problem. But the firmware comes with the SC7.0 right? How could connectivity problems make me SB3 reboot? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
But the firmware comes with the SC7.0 right? It comes with SC, but it's not SC. The same firmware without SC could cause the same problems when eg. connected to SqueezeNetwork instead of SC. How could connectivity problems make me SB3 reboot? When it loses connection to its controlling server. But please open a new thread if you have specific issues. This thread has had a bad start... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
Michael Herger;262085 Wrote: But the firmware comes with the SC7.0 right? It comes with SC, but it's not SC. The same firmware without SC could cause the same problems when eg. connected to SqueezeNetwork instead of SC. How could connectivity problems make me SB3 reboot? When it loses connection to its controlling server. But please open a new thread if you have specific issues. This thread has had a bad start... -- Michael Don't know if the thread will actually be opened but just for your information; yesterday mine rebooted also (never seen that before) and recently I installed the 22 jan trunk for which a firmware update was necessary. Frank -- SilverRS8 Author of AlbumCatalogCreator for SlimServer SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Don't know if the thread will actually be opened Just do it. Please. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embarrased by Logitech - again
SilverRS8;262029 Wrote: P.S. Can someone moderate the language used in the first post or remove the whole thread?probably best to just lock the thread, removal will just add more fuel to the fire. ;) -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 16504 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 3 x wireless SB3 Duet on order :) bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
