Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No Objective: Have the complete music library of ~180 GB in the car without moving and syncing an external disk manually. Control music by iPeng. On board PC: There are car barebones with WLAN around i.e. http://www.ac-services.eu/shop/index.php?cat=c37_Auto-PC.html (there are many others). But th effort in setting it up with a SBS and creating a syncjob to sync with the music library on the NAS was too much labor for now. On top the car built in screen isn't a touchscreen, difficult to use anyway. Therefore a WLAN router would be needed in the car to control a player by iPeng. + if you have modern screen(s) and even want to show in the back videos... the battery is your limit ;-) - much work Squeezebox Touch with SD Card Works really fine, not to say amazing. The SD card in Touch can be accessed by a network share over WLAN. You find other threads here how to connect the Touch to the on board 12 V http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=560413postcount=5. Connect it to switched supply which is on the first key turn, to really switch off the Touch when pulling the key. The sync job runs on the QNAP NAS, which I could refine to run every hour, but first check if the share is there. + not much work, anybody can touch the Touch - a SD card with 64 GB and more is very costly. My car don't have the ideal spot to place the Touch on the centre console. But when I get a 128 GB SD card for EUR ~250.- I will go that way. Control via Touch is not as smart as with iPeng. Use Smart Phone or Tablet Currently I stick to my iPhone where I sync a reduced set of 22 GB. If there would be an iPad with 128 GB why not stick to this approach. I used a small iPhone charging station with a line-out mounted with hook and loop fastener on the centre console. + I anyway sync my music to the smart phone or tablet, control with iPod is nearly as good as with iPeng. If I leave the car there is nothing to steal. - Yet not enough storage space available on smart phones or tablets, maybe in year. If a call comes or other things to be looked up as maps it's less comfortable to handle. Other Findings on Aux-In: For a good sound quality it must by a line-in, and not blue tooth, radio or tape solutions. In my case it's astounding that a BMW board entertainment system factory built in in 2003 doesn't has an aux-in; or after 2003 you need a special contact to activate the aux-in, which normally only the professional car dealer has. I tried two smart kits (so called iPhone adapters) to make my on board entertainment system work with external aux sources. Control of the iPod on the iPhone by the on board screen and button was useless; this may work when you have 50 tracks. You need the iPone, but some adapters even disable iPod control on the iPhone itself when connected. I returned those kits. I simply welded a line to the CD changer line-in using a line switch. Material costs EUR 20.- and not 200.-. If my car breaks I will only then get a new one with state of the art touchscreen, blue tooth and more ;-) -- Metazargo Music Management: Media Monkey 3.2.4.1304 Music Playing: Squeezebox Server 7.5.3R2 31792 (SqueezeboxServer QPKG with SSOTS); Squeezebox Touch, -Radio, -Controller, -Receiver; SoftSqueeze; iPeng on iPhone Music Store: QNAP TS-259 Pro with Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB WD2001FASS in Raid 1 Ext3 Metazargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38404 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No I'd like something like a touch + HD in the car. Though most cars I like now have custom radios that can't be swopped out. A cool feautre would be that once this touch + HD comes home and connects to the squeezebox server at home over wifi it automatically updates the HD to whatever is on the server at home (either completely or a subset). -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No Forgot to mention: There is/was someone on the forum running a server plus squeezebox in their car. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No doubleugk;617356 Wrote: ...an iPhone with 3G support unless you have network coverage On the road, highways, mountains, tunnels, even in suburbia 3G is often not stable. And even reasonable mobile business flatrates have their limits, somewhere at 500 MB every month. No real option in a car. -- Metazargo Music Management: Media Monkey 3.2.4.1304 Music Playing: Squeezebox Server 7.5.3R2 31792 (SqueezeboxServer QPKG with SSOTS); Squeezebox Touch, -Radio, -Controller, -Receiver; SoftSqueeze; iPeng on iPhone Music Store: QNAP TS-259 Pro with Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB WD2001FASS in Raid 1 Ext3 Metazargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38404 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No doubleugk;616950 Wrote: iPeng will be registered as a SB client Yes, if you have mobile WLAN in the car :-) to access e.g. a barbone with SBS running. A barbone could access the home WLAN and sync the music library. I even found a tutorial how to hook in a barbone into my onboard navigation system. But this is too much 'hobby' for me, I wouldn't find the time. Or does someone knows a SBS on iPhone or iPad? Currently I think I go for an iPhone or iPod Classic (with 160 GB just enough space that I don't have to think about which music I shall sync) sync from my media manager MediaMonkey. But before a final decision I will test network sharing on the SB Touch and find a good place for the Touch in the car. -- Metazargo Music Management: Media Monkey 3.2.0.1294 Music Playing: Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 (SSOTS); Squeezebox Touch, -Radio, -Controller, -Receiver; SoftSqueeze; iPeng on iPhone Music Store: QNAP TS-259 Pro with Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB WD2001FASS in Raid 1 Ext3 Metazargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38404 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No For my understanding you need an iPhone with 3G support, then you should be able to listen to your music everywhere, unless you have network coverage ;-) -- doubleugk Synology DS410j CPU 800 MHz Mem: 128 MB 4*1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 3Gb/s FW DSM 3.0-1354 Platform armv5tel-linux (MARVELL_88F6281) SBS Version: 7.5.3 - r31792 | Perl-Version: 5.8.6 | MySQL-Version: 5.1.49 | 3 SB Radios | 2 SB Receivers | iPod touch 2.G OS 4.2.1 with iPeng app v1.3.1 doubleugk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36464 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No The latest version of iPeng allows play back, even thru 3G, FLAC then will be transcoded. iPeng will be registered as a SB client. But you have to pay for this additional feature, unless you buy the iPad app. -- doubleugk Synology DS410j CPU 800 MHz Mem: 128 MB 4*1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA 3Gb/s FW DSM 3.0-1354 Plattform armv5tel-linux SSODS 4.11 - SBS Version: 7.6.0 - r31986 (ARM Linux Tarball (for Perl 5.8/5.10, ARM EABI) DBD: SQLite 1.31 (sqlite 3.7.2) 3 SB Radios | 2 SB Receivers | SqueezePlay beta 7.5.1 | iPod touch 3G OS 4.2.1 with iPeng app v1.3.1 to control everything :-) doubleugk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36464 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No amey01;615973 Wrote: And your car's battery will be flat next time you try to start it! It would be nice if there was a serious solution. No dealing with only things missing, screwing around, etc. There are many more things missing than a cron job - how do you mount the SB Touch, how does it get power, where do you put the storage? I have no real interest in having a SB player in my car, and there would certainly be many hurdles to overcome to even begin to make this work correctly. But the storage issue would be no big problem. I've had a 160gb USB HD in my car for years, going to a USB enabled Pioneer head unit. The HD is very simplistically mounted under the dash on the passenger side, slides right out when I need to add music. These days it is difficult to find a car head unit that does *not* have USB. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No Metazargo;615643 Wrote: It would be great if an USB drive attached to Touch could be made visible as a network share. Touch does this straight out of the box. In addition to TinySBS it runs a Samba server for network file sharing. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No If you're on an iPhone flat rate data plans, streaming would be worth checking out. Easier than managing another setup and much cheaper. -- JeffHart You know, I'm all for progress. It's change I object to. Mark Twain SBRx5, 1 Boom, 1 Controller, 1 iPhone w/iPeng JeffHart's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23791 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No I've been giving this some thought lately as well. What I'd like to see, and what Logitech certainly aren't likely to offer, is a device which presents itself as an iPod so that I can use the iPod connectivity functionality in my head unit to navigate the local installation of SBS, which would be rsync-ed back to the main library if my home wireless access point was available at the time the ignition was switched off, before it powered itself down. I've seen some reverse-engineered documentation on the iPod interface so I might take a look and see how easy it would be to implement on a little micro, as the remainder of the solution would be quite straightforward. -- paulster Problem with Controller buttons occasionally ceasing to work? Vote for bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17006 paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No Metazargo;615643 Wrote: It would be great if an USB drive attached to Touch could be made visible as a network share. By this I could run a cron job from the NAS making a sync from the master music library. And your car's battery will be flat next time you try to start it! the only missing piece is a cron run It would be nice if there was a serious solution. No dealing with only things missing, screwing around, etc. There are many more things missing than a cron job - how do you mount the SB Touch, how does it get power, where do you put the storage? -- amey01 amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No when it comes to the car, i am waiting for a flash/ssd ipod/droid etc type device that will connect via bluetooth or similar option to the car stereo. anything more elaborate than that starts to get too pricey/elaborate for the car environment. the only holdup really is the storage space, i want at least 400gigs. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbrec ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 48k+ mp3 ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No I should have a better look at what I use, as I access music only on NAS and MSB.com. Touch has nice features! And in a way the touch would fit on the car console. I could use a costly 32GB SD card (maximum Touch support) or an USB drive. I also need to find a proper 12V to 5V 4Amp DC/DC power supply. I would like that it just works by itself without manually copying the music library on a USB drive. pski;615559 Wrote: the only missing piece is a cron run of rsync to make the touch have the same music files as the home server It would be great if an USB drive attached to Touch could be made visible as a network share. By this I could run a cron job from the NAS making a sync from the master music library. See also here: 'Touch in a car' http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=560413postcount=5 For now I have to make a decision, maybe an iPod Classic with 160GB disk is a leaner solution, where of course I have to sync it manually on the workstation too. iPod Touch has unfortunately only 64GB, and so does iPad. -- Metazargo Music Management: Media Monkey 3.2.0.1294 Music Playing: Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 (SSOTS); Squeezebox Touch, -Radio, -Controller, -Receiver; SoftSqueeze; iPeng on iPhone Music Store: QNAP TS-259 Pro with Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB WD2001FASS in Raid 1 Ext3 Metazargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38404 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No I have wanted this for a very long time. But it would have to work. I don't want a science experiment. So work properly, Work reliably. Not require diddy-daddlying. Ideally, I'd like something that uses 3G (as FLAC quality is not essential in the car). But not with its own access - it would have to have SAP (Bluetooth) to connect via my existing access. A wi-fi sync (as you describe) would also work well. And so would the ability to simply plug in a portable USB hard disk. It is not hard (and takes no effort) to synchronise my server with another USB hard disk (I do it all the time for backup) and simply plug that into the car. The Squeezebox in the car would have to be designed specifically to allow operation while not looking at it, and not compromise safety in any way. An alternative would be an Android/iPhone app that allows all this (over 3G of course) on the deivce itself and simply connect that to the car. I know that's possible now, but it's not exactly bother-less. As I said - I've got better things to do than sit around for hours trying to piece something together. -- amey01 amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 Question: Would you buy a home integrated Squeezebox car appliance - Yes - No Metazargo;615259 Wrote: Everything is setup fine, in the house, but what about the car? I can use a mobile device, as an iPhone, but this hasn't 150GB space... I finally want the same, the identical music library like at home. A SqueezeboxCar device would be a great new player, which could use an external disk, with a copy of the home library and play it with a local Squeezebox Server, a satellite. But better than a copy would be a sync. Many people park the car in the range of their WLAN, so SqueezeboxCar could automatically detect availability of it's parent Squeezebox Server and sync the library. I couldn't say which type the SqueezeboxCar should be, classic car radio, replacement of the CD changer. I would prefer the replacement of the CD changer controlled by a Touch like screen. Or even that SqueezeboxCar would be a WLAN repeater allowing control by iPeng. I would buy such immediately. Very good. You can do this with current tools, specifically the Touch. At this point (since I don't have a Touch,) the only missing piece is a cron run of rsync to make the touch have the same music files as the home server (and then do a clear/load.) P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Feature request: SqueezeboxCar having a Player and a Squeezebox Server Satellite
Everything is setup fine, in the house, but what about the car? I can use a mobile device, as an iPhone, but this hasn't 150GB space... I finally want the same, the identical music library like at home. A SqueezeboxCar device would be a great new player, which could use an external disk, with a copy of the home library and play it with a local Squeezebox Server, a satellite. But better than a copy would be a sync. Many people park the car in the range of their WLAN, so SqueezeboxCar could automatically detect availability of it's parent Squeezebox Server and sync the library. I couldn't say which type the SqueezeboxCar should be, classic car radio, replacement of the CD changer. I would prefer the replacement of the CD changer controlled by a Touch like screen. Or even that SqueezeboxCar would be a WLAN repeater allowing control by iPeng. I would buy such immediately. -- Metazargo Music Management: Media Monkey 3.2.0.1294 Music Playing: Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 (SSOTS); Squeezebox Touch, -Radio, -Controller, -Receiver; SoftSqueeze; iPeng on iPhone Music Store: QNAP TS-259 Pro with Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB WD2001FASS in Raid 1 Ext3 Metazargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38404 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
