[slim] IP question - maybe? - trying to get an SB1 to find the server

2013-11-16 Thread donmacn

Hi folks,
I've recently added to the 'SB' family, and it's meant some relocating
of players. 

One of them, an SB1, seems to go through the setup routine OK, until a
stage when it says it can't get an IP address for the server and that I
need to add that manually. (It then says 'setup complete', but when I
press the right arrow again it says it can't contact the server.

The IP address on the SB is 192.168.000.011, when I come to the PC
itself, and check the IP address in the 'network details' tab, I get
192.168.0.11. This IP address is also the one displayed when I open the
'Netgear Genie' software which allows me to look at the network map
(Windows won't create a network map as it says the response from some
devices is delayed or there's an incompatible router.) Although there
are a few extra 'zeros' in the IP display on the SB, I'm assuming that
it makes no practical difference?

For info, if it helps, I'm running a Windows 7 machine. Here's the info
on the LMS install:
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.3 - 1375965195 @ Mon Aug 12 11:14:33
CUT 2013
Hostname: MacNeill-PB
IP: 192.168.0.11
HTTP Port: 9000
OS: Windows 7 - EN - cp1252
Platform: 8664
Perl Version: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 3

..but - it's been working fine and very stable for ages, so I don't
think it's a LMS issue. In an ideal world there would be 5 players
recognised + a Controller. This post relates to the SB1; my next job is
to go and wake the Controller and another Boom to see if they get picked
up.

Finally, where I think the real issue might lie is the network itself.
We have a two-storey house. The floorboards have a metallised bubble
wrap insulation underneath which I've felt has been causing wireless
issues. So, I've got a Netgear powerline extender network in place. A
couple of wi-fi extenders, and a couple ethernet only. The SB1 is wired
into one of the ethernet ones, which is a new install. The netgear genie
software shows the extender, and the lights on the extender are all
green - but the player just isn't picking up the server.

Any thoughts at all?

I'll also say I'm one of those just like it to work people, not really
comfortable or knowledgable in the guts of computer settings. Not an
idiot (by my own reckoning!) just not something I get involved in often
enough to retain the stuff I do learn on occasion.

Thanks is advance!

Donald



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Re: [slim] IP question - maybe? - trying to get an SB1 to find the server

2013-11-16 Thread epoch1970

Can you see what address the SB1 gets for itself ?
(I hope it's not 192.168.0.11, since it looks like this is the address
used by the SBS server.)

Assuming the SB1 gets an address ok, and since the server seems to be a
Windows machine, have you checked that the firewall is relaxed enough
not to reject an incoming connection from the SB1 ?



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Re: [slim] IP question - maybe? - trying to get an SB1 to find the server

2013-11-16 Thread donmacn

Hi epoch,

Thanks very much for your reply. I have made a bit of progress.
Apologies too, because I realise that folk posting questions, then doing
some of their own problem solving and basic checks must be a pain.

I took the SB1 - it's IP address is 192.168.0.8 by the way, so not the
same as the SBS - and plugged it into a different ethernet extender in a
different location, and it picks up the network and the LMS/SBS fine. 

I've also got it to find the Controller and the 2nd Boom - so all good
as far as the Squeezefamily is concerned. The issue is obviously
something to do with that particular netgear extender.

I'll try netgear support next, but if anyone has any experience with
netgear powerline extenders, I wouldn't mind a hand.

So, as I say, everything's good with the music!

Cheers

Donald



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Re: [slim] IP question - maybe? - trying to get an SB1 to find the server

2013-11-16 Thread reinholdk

Just to confirm your assumption: additional leading zeros in parts of
the IP address are not significant.

Regarding your netgear stuff: I don't have experience with that, but I
understood you have several of them. Did you try to exchange positions
already?



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Re: [slim] IP question - maybe? - trying to get an SB1 to find the server

2013-11-16 Thread donmacn

Hi Reinhold,
After I got the SB players all recognised and talking to the server, I
started checking out the netgear kit and their forums. It seems that
when it works it's OK, but that some of the stuff can be a bit flaky.
I'm sure it can't be the best answer to networking the house, but
running CAT5 cabling everywhere just isn't practical. 

I'm going to have to think about the best way to go forward. I'm
considering a vortexbox appliance of some sort, and might be able to
hard-wire 3 or 4 of the players, to try and make the set-up as
'bombproof' as possible, but there will be a couple of locations where
getting cabling in just wouldn't happen without taking the walls down.

back to the powerline stuff, it just seems as if some power sockets work
with the kit; some don't; unfortunately if you find that 3 or 4 poor
sockets are just where you want to locate your equipment, then there
doesn't seem to be much you can do.

Thanks

D



SB user since 2000...
2 x SB1 ; 1 x SB3 ; 2 x Boom ; 1 x Touch ; 1 x Controller
Windows 7 and LMS Version: 7.7.3 - 1375965195

Next step... a Vortexbox?

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