Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-30 Thread epoch1970

Wouldn't it be nice if, say, Amazon would buy the Squeezebox business ?
Perhaps we could have a solid internet service then, and a hi-def store
to buy from.
And some new, really slim again, devices.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-30 Thread toby10

God help us!  A SqueezeBox Kindle?   :)


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-30 Thread bullethead

Did they state health reasons?  Google TV fever?  I bought one, and I am
probably the only person who did not return it, heh.  Talking 30 million
loss?  That's huge, I would resign too, but I wouldn't have made the
mistake making tons of Google TVs, they made too many.  Sony got burnt
too.  It happens when you bet big on new technology from time to time.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-30 Thread GeeJay

MrSinatra;644713 Wrote: 
 i see your point, but for that the cheap remote that comes with the
 device is sufficient, the harmony seems surperfluous between the native
 remote and the apps.  i find with my droid though, i like using it more
 (most of the time) than normal remotes.

I couldn't disagree more. My technologically-challenged family was
constantly frustrated by multiple remotes and 'universal remotes' that
weren't really universal.  The Harmony One is the first device that
they have truly mastered.  

I agree with the other comments that picking up a remote is a lot
easier than waking up the smartphone.  As much as my family enjoys
their iPhones, there will always be a need for something like the
Harmony in our household.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread MrSinatra

i actually think it makes some sense for microsoft or google to buy
logitech.

however, i think harmony remotes are basically obsolete.  its already
the case that a lot of new products have remote apps run from tablets
and phones, etc...  much better than even dedicated remotes.  tivo has
a really cool app for instance.  so do some TVs and receivers.

if the revue can bring droid and sbs/lms to your tv/stereo, i see real
potential in that.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread pippin

You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive
enough.
The Apps excel at more complex tasks (browsing stuff, searching) but
they are an epic fail if you look at your TV screen and just want to
get rid of a lousy commercial ASAP since you first have to unlock your
device, connect to Wifi... you get the point.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Phil Leigh

pippin;644706 Wrote: 
 You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive
 enough.
 The Apps excel at more complex tasks (browsing stuff, searching) but
 they are an epic fail if you look at your TV screen and just want to
 get rid of a lousy commercial ASAP since you first have to unlock your
 device, connect to Wifi... you get the point.

+100

I know lots of people with Harmony One's and wild horses wouldn't get
them to replace the instant response of hard buttons (which you can use
WITHOUT LOOKING at the device and taking your eyes off the TV/movie
screen) with an App of any sort. 

The two are simply chalk and cheese...


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread MrSinatra

i see your point, but for that the cheap remote that comes with the
device is sufficient, the harmony seems surperfluous between the native
remote and the apps.  i find with my droid though, i like using it more
(most of the time) than normal remotes.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread slippyr4

erland;644372 Wrote: 
 What kind of Squeezebox model are you waiting for ?

A boom replacement, based on the new (touch, radio) platform.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Michael Herger
 You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive
 enough.

Hehe... interesting you mention this (and it doesn't only apply to IR  
remotes): I still often grab the good old Controller to quickly skip a  
track or change the volume, as firing up iPeng/SqueezePad/Controller app  
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread bluegaspode

mherger;644716 Wrote: 
 I still often grab the good old Controller to quickly skip a  track or
 change the volume, as firing up iPeng/SqueezePad/Controller app  takes
 too long...
 
Mine as well sitting in the cradle. Just waiting for the volume button
to be pressed. Much faster than finding the mobile in the pockets when
the telephone rings.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread tamanaco

erland;644608 Wrote: 
 Harmony One - Hard buttons combined with small touch screen
 Revue - Touch screen and barely any hard buttons
 
 That makes them a gigantic difference to me. 
 
 If one planned to get the Harmony 1000, it would maybe be smart to wait
 for the lower priced Revue. If you planned to get the Harmony 900
 because you need RF, the situation is also a bit different because
 currently the 900 feels pretty expensive and even more so if you can
 get a Revue with Wifi remote for $99
 
 Maybe the Revue price drop could affect Harmony prices, but I don't
 think so. When you read why they are dropping the Revue price you
 realize it's because it's a new market and they want to establish the
 product, this isn't they case for the Harmony remotes, they are already
 in an established market and they have both fairly cheap and more
 expensive models.


Well, the Revue also has two hard button remote options: The Mini
Controller $129 and the Keyboard $99.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/accessories 

They should lower the price of these accessories given that the Revue
has the same price or lower price than its accessories. I'm always
reluctant to get the first generation of any gadget because subsequent
generations usually have more functionality, have the bugs worked out
and are less expensive. That's the reason I did not jump at the Revue
in the first place. I considered it as a possible IR Universal Remote,
but at $249 it was out of the question. I'd still wait to see how the
Gingerbread update enhances the Revue/Google TV experience. I'm also
curious to find out if  LMS will play a role as a media server for the
Revue.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Mark Miksis

mherger;644716 Wrote: 
  You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive
  enough.
 
 Hehe... interesting you mention this (and it doesn't only apply to IR 
 
 remotes): I still often grab the good old Controller to quickly skip a 
 
 track or change the volume, as firing up iPeng/SqueezePad/Controller
 app  
 takes too long...
 
 -- 
 
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Interesting.  I prefer my Harmony for a different reason.  When
watching TV, perhaps in the dark, nothing beats a good remote with hard
buttons.  I can mute or pause my DVR without looking at the remote.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread pippin

mherger;644716 Wrote: 
  You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive
  enough.
 
 Hehe... interesting you mention this (and it doesn't only apply to IR  
 remotes): I still often grab the good old Controller to quickly skip a 
 
 track or change the volume, as firing up iPeng/SqueezePad/Controller
 app  
 takes too long...
 
 -- 
 
 Michael

Doesn't work for me. I find that it's always connected to the wrong
player and needs at least a minute to switch.
No, I retired the Receiver, only to be used as a testing device
anymore, all other SBs have buttons or work with IR remote when I need
them to be off.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread pippin

Mark Miksis;644840 Wrote: 
 Interesting.  I prefer my Harmony for a different reason.  When watching
 TV, perhaps in the dark, nothing beats a good remote with hard buttons. 
 I can mute or pause my DVR without looking at the remote.

That's one of the reason why multimedia doesn't work. The use cases
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Mark Miksis

pippin;644904 Wrote: 
 That's one of the reason why multimedia doesn't work. The use cases
 for music and video are just too different.

I couldn't agree more.  I have 7 Squeezeboxes in my house.  Only one is
connected to the same system as a TV.  Any merger of client
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Grahame

The Register comments
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/29/google_tv_flop_logitech_pain/


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread erland

mherger;644716 Wrote: 
  You can't replace IR remotes with Apps. An App is not responsive
  enough.
 
 Hehe... interesting you mention this (and it doesn't only apply to IR 
 
 remotes): I still often grab the good old Controller to quickly skip a 
 
 track or change the volume, as firing up iPeng/SqueezePad/Controller
 app  
 takes too long...
 
That's when I use the Harmony remote, the Controller is to far away
since I need to have it in the dock for it to have battery when I need
it and the Controller dock is not standing in the middle of my living
room table. The Harmony on the other hand is placed on the living room
table. The Harmony needs to go into its charge station with a few weeks
interval, but its battery consumption is no where near the Controller.

Besides this, the Controller isn't able to switch output on my Sherwood
amplifier and doesn't understand that it should change the volume on the
Sherwood amplifier and not on the Squeezebox Touch.

And on top of this, even if the Controller was able to solve the above,
it won't enter my living room table as their is only place for one
remote there and the Controller is never going to be able to control
all my other IR based devices in a user friendly way, too few hard
buttons on it to make that possible.

I could think of mixing:
- A simple Harmony for simple duties
- An iPhone/iPad app with a IR blaster system for more complex
operations

The problem is just that any non geeky IR blaster system I've seen so
far has been more expensive than the a Harmony remote which can solve
all the needs.

Maybe the $99 Revue with included IR-blasters could be an option, if
Logitech would sell it outside US.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread erland

Hmm, this is kind of interesting:
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/07/29/logitech-regains-guerrino-de-luca-as-ceo/

I quote:
 
 The company now plans to *improve its remote control* and set-top-box
 product line and establish itself in the business to business market.
 *Logitech also plans to improve its digital music offerings* and focus
 on peripherals for tablet devices like the Apple iPad.
 

I wonder what this means, doesn't sound too bad :-)
Not sure if it's just something the article author has made up, but it
sounded like it was something coming from a reliable source.

Of course, digital music doesn't have to mean Squeezebox.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread JJZolx

Logitech built its success on -peripherals-. With the old CEO back in
charge I would expect a return to that rather than throwing
considerably more money into either the Revue or Squeezebox, both of
which require a fair amount of dedicated marketing. They also require a
sizable shift in consumers' perception of Logitech itself, and that
doesn't happen quickly. Expect more iPod/iPad docks and speakers.
Acquiring someone like Audioengine would make 10x as much sense for
them as continuing Squeezebox development.

With a little luck, maybe they'll sell off the Squeezebox product line.
Few of the positive predictions for Logitech  Squeezebox ever came to
pass. The economies of scale and Logitech's buying and manufacturing
prowess never really brought down pricing. The development and QA teams
were greatly expanded for a while, but they burned up all of their
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Letten

JJZolx;644990 Wrote: 
 Logitech built its success on -peripherals-. With the old CEO back in
 charge I would expect a return to that...

But theres hardly a growing business in selling mice, keyboards and
webcams when You look at the all the Touch devices with integrated
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread JJZolx

Letten;645015 Wrote: 
 But theres hardly a growing business in selling mice, keyboards and
 webcams when You look at the all the Touch devices with integrated
 cameras.

The market for keyboard and mice isn't going away any time soon. True,
there probably is not a lot of room for growth.

But with new technology and new devices come new types of peripherals.
The key is to follow, not to lead. Logitech has made their money by
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread aubuti

Letten;645015 Wrote: 
 But theres hardly a growing business in selling mice, keyboards and
 webcams when You look at the all the Touch devices with integrated
 cameras.
I sure hope it's a case of poor quote selection by the writer where the
article implies that de Luca is counting on tablet owners to buy more
external keyboards (and presumably mice) for their newly-stationary
laptops There's an element of truth to the idea, but it hardly
looks like a big growth segment of the market.

-“The growth of tablets and iPads will benefit keyboards bought for
laptops. People will travel with tablets and use their laptop in a
stationary way, which demands more comfortable peripherals,” he said.-


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Letten

aubuti;645020 Wrote: 
 I sure hope it's a case of poor quote selection by the writer where the
 article implies that de Luca is counting on tablet owners to buy more
 external keyboards (and presumably mice) for their newly-stationary
 laptops There's an element of truth to the idea, but it hardly
 looks like a big growth segment of the market.
 
 -“The growth of tablets and iPads will benefit keyboards bought for
 laptops. People will travel with tablets and use their laptop in a
 stationary way, which demands more comfortable peripherals,” he said.-

To mee it's just more clutter :-)
- I want less clutter 
- I want fewer devices
- I want cordless/wireless
- I want inbuilt not seperate/add-ons


I also hope I don't need tons of boxes connected to my TV in the future
either - I just want a screen on a wall and some speakers. TV, films,
games would just be streaming from the internet.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-29 Thread Phil Meyer
Hehe... interesting you mention this (and it doesn't only apply to IR  
remotes): I still often grab the good old Controller to quickly skip a  
track or change the volume, as firing up iPeng/SqueezePad/Controller app  
takes too long...

Snap!

My SB3 IR Remote is wearing out - Up/Down buttons need quite a firm press to 
make contact :-(  I don't know I'm going to do then.
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[slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread slippyr4

http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/28/logitech-ceo-steps-down-after-money-losing-q1-revue-price-slash/

I can't see this as good news for those of us wanting new models of
squeezebox. If logitech aren't doing well, then the chances of a new
model coming out soon don't seem that great to me :(


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread castalla

Looks like he mangled the 7.6 server before he left!


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread vw195

Yes hope Logitech doesnt start slashing alot of stuff!


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

slippyr4;644347 Wrote: 
 
 I can't see this as good news for those of us wanting new models of
 squeezebox. If logitech aren't doing well, then the chances of a new
 model coming out soon don't seem that great to me :(
 
What kind of Squeezebox model are you waiting for ?


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread verypsb

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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread plympton

verypsb;644374 Wrote: 
 Boom II
 Receiver II
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This /\ !! And a Classic II - the VFD's on my Classics are starting to
get burn-in and could need replacing soon...


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

vw195;644368 Wrote: 
 Yes hope Logitech doesnt start slashing alot of stuff!
Who knows, maybe it could turn out to something good, maybe they will
sell the Squeezebox products to a company that understands what multi
room streaming music is all about or maybe they just re-organize
themselves so someone that understands streaming music system gets
responsible for the Squeezebox products.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread pippin

It'll be hard to get worse so maybe it gets better


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

verypsb;644374 Wrote: 
 
 Maybe a preconfigured squeezebox server? (like vortexbox)
 
The only advantage of Logitech doing this would be that they can
probably lower the price a bit, since they will be able to distribute
it to more stores and sell more units. However, I'm pretty sure that in
all other aspects the current VortexBox appliance systems are going to
offer better and more functionality.

In my mind, it's a lot bigger chance that Logitech realize this as:
- A Touch II (with faster CPU and more memory with a reliable built-in
TinySBS)
or
- A Receiver II (with faster CPU and more memory with a reliable
built-in TinySBS)


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread Ikabob

I believe that a Boom11 would be the logical next step. A self-contained
stereo device to keep compatible with the Touch and Radio. After all,
the Boom is no longer available through Logitech. I have 2 Booms but I
would grab up a Boom made on the same platform (is that the correct
term?) as the Touch and Radio.

I do not think Logitech would dump the Internet Radio devices. They are
the way of the future...imho.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

Ikabob;644384 Wrote: 
 
 I do not think Logitech would dump the Internet Radio devices. They are
 the way of the future...imho.
 
If someone who don't understand them is in charge, that could easily
happen if they plan to sell the Revue for $99.

Revue $99:
- Support for video
- Support for music (local and online)
- Support for pictures
- Support for viewing and recording TV

Squeezebox Touch $299:
- Support for music (local and online)

I could easily see someone within Logitech management think, hmm, why
do we need this expensive music box which when we have the Revue which
is cheaper and can do so much more...

Of course, when you know the products it's a different situation, but I
doubt there are many (if even anyone) within Logitech management who
really understands what the Squeezebox products is all about.

However, if they drop the Harmony remotes, which is mentioned as
something they have had problems selling in the linked article in the
initial post, I would be very sad, because that really is an excellent
product. I wonder if I should get an Harmony One while it still
exists...

Hopefully they will just drop the Revue and invest those resources on
Squeezebox and Harmony improvements instead :-)


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread Ikabob

Where is a Revue for $99?   Isn't that just speculationhearsay?


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread signor_rossi

It's mentioned in the Engadget article, and they may just sell the
Revues they have in stock or manufacture until a newer Google TV device
pops up (an ARM powered one that is cheaper to manufacture than the
Revue is confirmed, I just haven't seen mentioned anywhere if Logitech
will distribute it).


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

Ikabob;644405 Wrote: 
 Where is a Revue for $99?   Isn't that just speculationhearsay?
 
Well it's said in the press release from Logitech, so I suspect it's
true:
http://ir.logitech.com/common/download/download.cfm?companyid=LOGIfileid=486484filekey=4743f0d6-ba2d-4499-a340-d402aaac73a2filename=Logitech%20Announces%20Q1%20FY%202012%20Results%20FINAL-Financials%20(1).pdf

But maybe I'm interpreting something wrong.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread Mark Miksis

erland;644392 Wrote: 
 I could easily see someone within Logitech management think, hmm, why
 do we need this expensive music box which when we have the Revue which
 is cheaper and can do so much more...

 Hopefully they will just drop the Revue and invest those resources on
 Squeezebox and Harmony improvements instead :-)

Yes.  The Revue should do more, but IMO is quite a disappointment.  As
an owner of both, I consider the Squeezebox a much more mature, stable
and capable product than the Revue.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread JJZolx

-*Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.*-


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread JJZolx

Maybe the old Squeezebox developers will have more time to devote to
Squeezebox Server when they've been let go and are working for other
companies.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

I think I'll choose to look at this as something possitive, because as
pippin said earlier in the thread, it will be hard for them to make it
worse than it already is.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread scorpio69

What a door stopper this is going to make!!!

This product was doomed from the beginning...should have bought a
decent radio instead.  7.6 is f'n crapped up!!


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread MrSinatra

maybe this is why 7.6 came out now, so they could move on to LMS and
support the revue, b/c the revue is the future while audio only
products are the past.

i've been saying for a long time now that they needed a cheap audio
endpoint, and the revue could be one (with video as a bonus).  if they
do get honeycomb into it, it could rescue the product.

make no mistake, the current situation is very bleak, and this could
all not only end badly, but end quickly.  however, a LMS server, that
can do upnp / dlna / audio/video and operate with a $99 honeycomb
powered endpoint is VERY appealing to me, and i think others, if it in
fact works well.

frankly, i'm shocked anyone is buying a touch at all.  to me, the
writing is on the wall for that kind of thing.

one last point...  maybe they will run LMS IN the revue...  turn LMS
into an android app the way they did SP.  just a thought...


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread Phil Leigh

erland;644392 Wrote: 
 ... I wonder if I should get an Harmony One while it still exists...
 
 Hopefully they will just drop the Revue and invest those resources on
 Squeezebox and Harmony improvements instead :-)

I've just bought 2 more Harmony One's as backups - they are one of the
best devices I've ever bought!


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread froth

I soon will need to add a couple more music devices to my collection. 
Unfortunatly this type of news does not make be want to go out an buy a
logitech device at the moment.  Fortunatly I can wait a few months to
see what happens.

What I could use is another boom, touch, plus the addition of a radio
since I do not own one yet.  I may just buy the radio and wait and see,
worse case it can be used via mysqueeze if I decide to go another route
for my music system.  My existing SB Classics and Boom will go up for
sale at that point.  I prefer not going with Sonos' due to cost, but at
some point the stability of the company does play into the decision.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread tamanaco

erland;644392 Wrote: 
 If someone who don't understand them is in charge, that could easily
 happen if they plan to sell the Revue for $99.
 
 Revue $99:
 - Support for video
 - Support for music (local and online)
 - Support for pictures
 - Support for viewing and recording TV
 
 Squeezebox Touch $299:
 - Support for music (local and online)
 
 I could easily see someone within Logitech management think, hmm, why
 do we need this expensive music box which when we have the Revue which
 is cheaper and can do so much more...
 
 Of course, when you know the products it's a different situation, but I
 doubt there are many (if even anyone) within Logitech management who
 really understands what the Squeezebox products is all about.
 
 However, if they drop the Harmony remotes, which is mentioned as
 something they have had problems selling in the linked article in the
 initial post, I would be very sad, because that really is an excellent
 product. I wonder if I should get an Harmony One while it still
 exists...
 
 Hopefully they will just drop the Revue and invest those resources on
 Squeezebox and Harmony improvements instead :-)

Interesting an equivalent price drop for the existing SB Touch
would not be out of line. Btw, I think the review for $99 is a better
deal than buying a Harmony One. Correct me if I'm wrong... because I've
not read the specs of the Revue in a while. But... if I remember
correctly, the Harmony Remote engine is already in the review along
with IR blasters. All you need is the Harmony discrete codes for your
model Squeezebox and AV system to control everything with single
remote.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread Phil Leigh

tamanaco;644543 Wrote: 
 Interesting an equivalent price drop for the existing SB Touch would
 not be out of line. Btw, I think the review for $99 is a better deal
 than buying a Harmony One. Correct me if I'm wrong... because I've not
 read the specs of the Revue in a while. But... if I remember correctly,
 the Harmony Remote engine is already in the Revue along with IR
 blasters. All you need are the Harmony discrete codes for your model
 Squeezebox and AV system to control everything with the Revue remote.

The Revue and the Harmony One are completely different animals...


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread tamanaco

Phil Leigh;644547 Wrote: 
 The Revue and the Harmony One are completely different animals...

Understood... but the Revue can act as a Universal Remote. Run your
mouse over the IR blasters ports of the Revue here:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revue


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread garym

From the 2010 financial statements: 

Sales of Audio products  - $454,957,000
Sales of everything -  $1,966,748,000

Audio as a % of total sales - 23%

So this is a large enough segment for the CEO to be thinking about. But
I suspect squeezebox products are only a small part of the larger
category of audio products

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/LOGI/1339129500x0x389966/A71D1F9A-E35E-49F3-BB62-64C5711C5448/2009AR.pdf


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

froth;644531 Wrote: 
 I soon will need to add a couple more music devices to my collection. 
 Unfortunatly this type of news does not make be want to go out an buy a
 logitech device at the moment.  Fortunatly I can wait a few months to
 see what happens.
 
Just remember that the only thing that's fact is that the CEO is going
to change and they have indicated they will lower the price on the
Revue. Everything else mentioned here is just guesses. 
What do you know about the CEO of any competitor  ? 
Will Apple change CEO soon (Steve has been a bit sick, you know) ? 
Do you even know who is CEO for Sonos ?

I bet there are a lot of guesses also about Apple and Sonos future
products, just not on this forum.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

tamanaco;644553 Wrote: 
 Understood... but the Revue can act as a Universal IR Remote. Run your
 mouse over the IR blasters ports of the Revue here:
 http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revue -
 
 - Edit: To be honest I'm at a bar with my laptop... so I might not be
 thinking straight... but I remember changing my mind about buying a
 Harmony remote at one point because of the Revue. Can't remember
 exactly why now... maybe it was a Harmony RF remote and I needed an IR
 blaster to relay IR signals.
 
Harmony One - Hard buttons combined with small touch screen
Revue - Touch screen and barely any hard buttons

That makes them a gigantic difference to me. 

If one planned to get the Harmony 1000, it would maybe be smart to wait
for the lower priced Revue. If you planned to get the Harmony 900
because you need RF, the situation is also a bit different because
currently the 900 feels pretty expensive and even more so if you can
get a Revue with Wifi remote for $99

Maybe the Revue price drop could affect Harmony prices, but I don't
think so. When you read why they are dropping the Revue price you
realize it's because it's a new market and they want to establish the
product, this isn't they case for the Harmony remotes, they are already
in an established market and they have both fairly cheap and more
expensive models.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread kmr

erland;644604 Wrote: 
 Just remember that the only thing that's fact is that the CEO is going
 to change and they have indicated they will lower the price on the
 Revue. Everything else mentioned here is just guesses. 
 What do you know about the CEO of any competitor  ? 
 Will Apple change CEO soon (Steve has been a bit sick, you know) ? 
 Do you even know who is CEO for Sonos ?
 
 I bet there are a lot of guesses also about Apple and Sonos future
 products, just not on this forum.

with respect to Apple, it appears that Steve Jobs is still very much
running the company, and that his health, though taking a lot of his
time, is not necessarily precarious.  So the Apple-watchers are
expecting that Jobs will continue as the head of Apple for quite a
while longer.

With the exception of an astoundingly speculative article a couple of
weeks ago in the WSJ that seems to have been published to manipulate
Apple's stock price, there isn't really any doubt among the analysts
about who the next CEO of Apple will be, though - it will be current
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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO Steps down

2011-07-28 Thread erland

kmr;644621 Wrote: 
 with respect to Apple, it appears that Steve Jobs is still very much
 running the company, and that his health, though taking a lot of his
 time, is not necessarily precarious.  So the Apple-watchers are
 expecting that Jobs will continue as the head of Apple for quite a
 while longer.
 
 With the exception of an astoundingly speculative article a couple of
 weeks ago in the WSJ that seems to have been published to manipulate
 Apple's stock price, there isn't really any doubt among the analysts
 about who the next CEO of Apple will be, though - it will be current
 COO Tim Cook, who is extremely respected inside and outside of Apple.
 
Yes I know, I was just trying to say that unless Steve Jobs (which I
respect) or Steve Ballmer (which I don't respect) becomes CEO of
Logitech, the CEO of Logitech really have doesn't have much impact if
I'll purchase Logitech devices or not. I certainly didn't get a
Squeezebox because of the current or previous Logitech CEO.

The CEO might of course have impact on how much resources they spend on
music streaming products, but in the end we are all going to be better
of if someone who believes, understands and make good economical
results on the products, independent if that's Logitech or someone
else. If Logitech would downsize music streaming products even more it
would just create an opening for some other company to fill the space.
So as I said previously, independent of which decisions the new CEO
makes regarding music streaming products, most of them are going to be
positive in one way or another.


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[slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread GoCubs72

Can someone please shoot me Gerald Quindlen's email address?  PM would
be finethanks.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread SilverRS8

Why?


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread weresloth

SilverRS8;538008 Wrote: 
 Why?

Everyone deserves a good pen pal.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread Phil Leigh

weresloth;538057 Wrote: 
 Everyone deserves a good pen pal.

Chortle.
Perhaps he wants to propose a Customer-Buyout...


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread SilverRS8

weresloth;538057 Wrote: 
 Everyone deserves a good pen pal.

I can only imagine his eagerness to mail with you


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread SilverRS8

weresloth;538057 Wrote: 
 Everyone deserves a good pen pal.

I can only imagine his eagerness to mail with you


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread epoch1970

SilverRS8;538008 Wrote: 
 Why?

Because ?


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread Phil Leigh

epoch1970;538113 Wrote: 
 Because ?

Oh that made me laugh...
I think GoCubs72 may have some constructive suggestions regarding
marketing, support, distribution.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread Phil Leigh

epoch1970;538113 Wrote: 
 Because ?

Oh that made me laugh...
I think GoCubs72 may have some constructive suggestions regarding
marketing, support, distribution.


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Re: [slim] Logitech CEO

2010-04-20 Thread ModelCitizen

I'll take a guess:

gerald.quind...@logitech.com

For good measure you could CC it to jerry.quind...@logitech.com

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