[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-29 Thread Justme

Well, I downloaded the Tag editing program recommended, but after
looking at it, my jRiver Media Jukebox does pretty much the same
thing.

Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any difference I can see between the
ID3tags. When checking two different songs, one that displays both
title and artist, and one that only shows the artist, both are filled
out in all major fields. There are no unusal characters, no major
difference in field lengths, no difference if spaces were used or not.

I just can't see a pattern.

Very unusual.


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Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-29 Thread Steve Bernard, Jr
On 7/29/05, Justme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any difference I can see between the
 ID3tags. When checking two different songs, one that displays both
 title and artist, and one that only shows the artist, both are filled
 out in all major fields. There are no unusal characters, no major
 difference in field lengths, no difference if spaces were used or not.

Is there a chance that some of these files might have both  ID3v1 and
ID3v2 tags at the same time?  One tag might be right and the other
might be incomplete.  I have run across MP3s of my own that had both
set, and I can easily see by looking at the file properties using
WinAmp.

Anywho, I have no idea what SlimServer does with MP3s that have both
tags, but it probably just looks at one set and ignores the other.

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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-29 Thread jth

 
 Anywho, I have no idea what SlimServer does with MP3s that have both
 tags, but it probably just looks at one set and ignores the other.
 

That's right, it reads id3v2 and ignores v1 if they are both set.


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Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-28 Thread ron thigpen

Justme wrote:


If I bought a TV where some things worked only 20% of the time, it
would be a scandle.


Did you ever do any television viewing in the 1940s?

Interference, vertical hold, tuner drift, having to hold odd poses while 
adusting the aerial; all were commonplace.


Until this device underwent significant development it too had 
deficiencies and foibles.  Despite this, it's value was understood and 
appreciated and many were sold despite the cost.


In fact, it's popularity continues to this day.

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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-28 Thread Justme

Ok, it seems my TV analogy caused a bit of stir, I appologize for that,
but I'm sure you can all see my point of view. By the way, I certainly
do appreciate the help from this forum. It always impresses me how so
many people are so helpful to others problems. Don't let my frustration
seem like I am ungrateful, but I just feel the way anyone would feel
after spending €300 on a great device, but one that really doesn't work
properly for me.

Anyway, I'm happy to send one of the mp3's to anyone who wishes to look
at them, although keep in mind, the previous versions of the software
did not have the missing song title problem.

I did think that the problem may be the speed of my computer, it is not
terribly fast, however, in normal playback I never actually have
problems listening to music itself, the audio streams perfectly even in
this latest version.

I have no idea how slimserver works and how it treats differently the
audio playback from information. 

Anyway, I'm thinking of going back to the previous version. I tried to
fastforward (through a song) again today, and the same problem I had
before occured, in that the song just begun jittering, and continued
even if skip to the nex song or switch off the squeesebox2 and back on
again. I had to reboot my PC to resume playback. So there is no
advantage to this new slimserver version.

Again, thanks to everyone who has helped!


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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-28 Thread street_samurai

Can I suggest that you have a look at your ID3 tags in an editor like:

http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

or 

http://users.otenet.gr/~jtcliper/tgf/

And ensure that your tags are properly defined. If you downloaded the
tracks from P2P theres a good chance that they aren't correct. 

Load the whole collect and spend a couple of hours fixing all your
tags. It takes some time but it'll be worth it since you won't ever
need to worry about it again.

ss.


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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-28 Thread Justme

street_samurai Wrote: 
 Can I suggest that you have a look at your ID3 tags in an editor like:
 
 http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
 
 or 
 
 http://users.otenet.gr/~jtcliper/tgf/
 
 And ensure that your tags are properly defined. If you downloaded the
 tracks from P2P theres a good chance that they aren't correct. 
 
 Load the whole collection and spend a couple of hours fixing all your
 tags. It takes some time but it'll be worth it since you won't ever
 need to worry about it again.
 
 ss.

I'll check this out. I bought all my CD's and convert to mp3 with
iRiver's media Jukebox, this connects to the internet and aquires the
tags from there. On the otherhand, I also ripped a few of my CD's at
work (faster computer) and there used the latest version of Window's
Media Player that also collects the ID3 tags but from a different
source.

This is very interesting, and maybe one of the rippers tags don't work
with this latest version.

I'll try and investigate this tomorrow, thanks for the idea. You have
me thinking now.


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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-28 Thread oreillymj

Quote 
Now with 6.1.1 the fastforward/rewind is better, at least in the fact
that I don't have to restart my computer to stop the jittering. It's
still a problem as it doesn't actually fast forward through the song,
it just jitters when I press the button and then continues playing
after, but no further in the song.

FFWD/REW was broken in the initial 6.1 release. A fix was mentioned in
version 6.1.1. I upgraded to the latest 6.1.2 nightly expecting it to
be fixed, but it remained broken.
I discovered that the fix was actually in the firmware, but the
firmware wasn't revved to reflect a change. So because I already had
version 15 of the firmware on my SB2 from the 6.1 release, an
auto-update wasn't triggered.
Forcing a firmware update by holding the brightness button for 5 secs
fixed FFWD/REW for me.

I suggest that you take just the latest squeezebox2_15.bin and copy it
to the firmware dir on your server, then force an upgrade on the
player.

Here's the link to the firmware from the latest nightly
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.1.2/SlimServer_6_1_x_v2005-07-28/Firmware/squeezebox2_15.bin

On a windows box, you would copy it to here...

C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Firmware

...assuming that the software is installed in the default location on
your C: drive.

Then press the brightness button on your remote to force an update.


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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-27 Thread radish

 It probably will if you install Linux on it :)
 

Amusing, but hardly accurate. I, and many others, run SS on windows
with no problems. 

As for the specific problems brought up by the poster, I can't say I've
seen any of them. I run very similar hardware (Athlon 1.3, 512mb) and
browsing is very fast (I have ~9500 tracks, and nearly 4000 artists).
FF/REW never works for me because I transcode most stuff on the server
(FLAC/Vorbis - PCM). As for adding new stuff, I always do a rescan if
I add more music. That takes a little while (maybe 15 mins) so it's not
something I tend to do frequently - just in batches.


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Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-27 Thread Robin Bowes

radish wrote:

It probably will if you install Linux on it :)




Amusing, but hardly accurate. I, and many others, run SS on windows
with no problems. 


Sorry. Private joke. I used to live near Simon and we met up a couple of 
times to get all geeky about music, hifi, and our Squeezeboxes. He'd had 
trouble installing linux on an old PC so I offered to help. I seem to 
remember it was a 486 with 12MB of RAM, or something!!


I must install Slimserver on a Windows box and see what all the fuss is 
about...


R.

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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-27 Thread Justme

radish Wrote: 
 Amusing, but hardly accurate. I, and many others, run SS on windows with
 no problems. 
 
 As for the specific problems brought up by the poster, I can't say I've
 seen any of them. I run very similar hardware (Athlon 1.3, 512mb) and
 browsing is very fast (I have ~9500 tracks, and nearly 4000 artists).
 FF/REW never works for me because I transcode most stuff on the server
 (FLAC/Vorbis - PCM). As for adding new stuff, I always do a rescan if
 I add more music. That takes a little while (maybe 15 mins) so it's not
 something I tend to do frequently - just in batches.

It's a real pity, maybe I'm the only one with the title (artist)
problem, where only the artist is displayed on 80% of the tracks. (It
also seems random, on some CD's, 8 of the 10 songs have no title now,
but 2 seem fine, despite the CD being ripped in one go). I'll try and
see if I can find a pattern, but to be honest I would really rather
spend my time actually using this device for it's original purpose -
listening to music rather than debugging it.

If I bought a TV where some things worked only 20% of the time, it
would be a scandle.


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Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-27 Thread kdf
Quoting Justme [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 If I bought a TV where some things worked only 20% of the time, it
 would be a scandle.

sure, but feed the tv a bad signal it is hard to fault the tv for a grainy
picture.

slimserver can't possibly correct for everything magically.  give a chance at
finding out the cause, then its easier to determine what, if anything, needs to
be fixed in slimserver. Every fix begins with somebody having a problem that
can be reliably reproduced by those who can fix it. Every problem that has been
fixed along the way, including many that you have benefitted from is due to
other users who have helped provide details of the cause.  This time, it looks
like it has to be your turn.  Pity, yes, but the effort is appreciated.

-kdf
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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

2005-07-27 Thread radish

If you can supply one of the files which isn't working for you, I'm sure
someone can see if there's anything unusual about it.


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