[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2007-01-24 Thread donmesserli

I did get some progress done on this and then life got hectic as it
usually does.  Unfortunately, I have accepted a new job at a company
where this would be a conflict of interest.

I will no longer be working on this.  Sorry.

Don


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-11-17 Thread Nicoleto

I guess Salling Clicker won´t work anymore with slim Server

What do you think?


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Re: [slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-11-17 Thread kdf


On 17-Nov-06, at 8:30 AM, Nicoleto wrote:



I guess Salling Clicker won´t work anymore with slim Server

What do you think?


I think you should guess less, try latest nightly more.

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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-11-17 Thread Siduhe

Or downgrade the slimserver software to 6.3.1 which AIUI works fine with
Sailing Clicker ?


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Re: [slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-11-17 Thread kdf

Quoting Siduhe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Or downgrade the slimserver software to 6.3.1 which AIUI works fine with
Sailing Clicker ?


or, as I have said the latest nightly.

of course, I might be wrong, but then again possibly not:

http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/server/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm?rev=10299view=rev
http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/server/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm?rev=10300view=rev
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4348

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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-11-07 Thread Nicoleto

Any news on this subject?

Thanks
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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-16 Thread donmesserli

I wanted to buy Salling Clicker to control my SlimServer (Windows 6.50).
This weekend, when I read that it no longer works, I started writing a
script (JavaScript) for Windows to make it work.  I'm using the
Telnet/CLI interface instead of the HTTP one.

I should have this working shortly.  When I finish it, I will load up
SlimServer on my Mac and do an AppleScript version.

Anyone who is interested in testing either of these versions, please
contact me or post in this forum and I will add you to my list.

Don


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-16 Thread Masterbaron

however just a note that might be worth mentioning...

Jonas has agreed to restore the functionality but is not sure when -
clearly it may not make the next update (and no one knows when that
will be)...it may be wise to contact him - he may be able to reduce
your turnround by just pointing you in the right direction - he said he
was interested in any assistance since he is busy building stacks for
bluetooth phones.,

this way you're in the loop for any future changes with Salling Clicker

his email is - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks for taking this on!

oh yes - please let me know how it's going i'm definitely a MAC man..


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-10 Thread Nicoleto

Any update on this problem?


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread andyg

Not sure what 'http interface' they are talking about, but 6.5 has been
in the works for many months, they had plenty of time to get their
input in.

Too bad the product is not open source, or someone else could work on
the 6.5 support.


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Re: [slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Jack Coates
On 10/4/06, andyg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure what 'http interface' they are talking about, but 6.5 has beenin the works for many months, they had plenty of time to get their
input in.Too bad the product is not open source, or someone else could work onthe 6.5 support.http://any.6.5.slimserver:9000/html/docs/http.html
Maybe there were changes in the details, but reading the docs, it looks fully functional to me. But then, I don't use their product, being as the stock Slim Devices remote is just fine in my book.
Yikes, just looked at the Salling web page. Someone think of the children and buy that poor man a grammar textbook. Anyhoo, here's the forum link if anyone who cares would like to continue the discussion. 
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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Masterbaron

Slimserver is a great product and 6.5 is finnally offering a better
browser functionality - if only the clear button along with the other
buttons were always visible as opposed to scrolling to the top of the
page - other than that it's great.

The biggest drawback however is having to use a line-of-sight remote
which kinda kills the whole idea of mobility within the home. Salling
Clicker presents the capability of remoting most aspects of home
automation with one device (PDA, phone, etc.) - you can control lights
- indigo, computer, photos, itunes, idvd, iphoto, X10 - devices and
previously Slimserver.

What else could anyone ask for? 

The whole-house functionality comes together in this way without the
need for line-of-sight - this is topshelf and just what people want!

Sean can you get a dialog going with Salling Clicker and if not can SD
take the next step with SB  Transporter and provide a wireless
solution for control - you guys will have it all in one bag if you do
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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread jonheal

Masterbaron;142878 Wrote: 
 The whole-house functionality comes together in this way without the
 need for line-of-sight - this is topshelf and just what people want!
I'm not sure about the persentage of SB/Transporter users that have
whole house audio. A lot of us confine our audio gear to one room. I
happen to have two stereos, but in my case, I generally have different
things playing on each.


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Masterbaron

Please be advised Salling Clicker was very sophisticated in it's ability
to address individual SB's through SS's interface allowing you to play
and remotely control each SB - I never said anything about the same
program material in the whole-house scenario.


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread aubuti

I'm going to advertise my ignorance about home automation here and ask
why using slimserver's web ui on your Palm is a no-go. I imagine I'm
missing something, but isn't it a matter of running two apps on your
Palm instead of having it all in Salling Clicker? Especially with the
handheld, touch, or Nokia770 skins, SS gives you a nice remote
interface. No line of sight needed.


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread radish

If Sailing Clicker don't want to support Slim, that's their problem. In
terms of non-line-of-sight control, there are a ton of options. I can
control all my players from desktop PCs, laptops, my PDA, even my PSP.
If I had a smartphone, Treo or similar that would work too. And then
there's the excellent Nokia 770 with it's custom control interface. 

If the guy who writes SC wants to come on here and get help with
whatever problem he has supporting 6.5 I can guarantee people will help
him out. My guess is he just doesn't see it as a priority - and that's
when being a customer of a closed source application sucks.


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Masterbaron

i was enjoying it all in one app - also i might add Bluetooth is less
hungry than wifi and SC uses bluetooth to accomplish all this..i've
spoke with Jonas of SC and it seems there's some sort of resentment
going on about notification of updates - he mentioned SD wants him to
use a Telnet solution and he prefers Applescript.

I've also offered to serve as a conduit between the two to get the
information to SD - I'm waiting to get a response from him as he
indicates he's happy to share the needed info to get this functionality
back in 6.5...i'd downgrade to 6.3.1 but the web interface isn't as
polished.


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread andyg

It looks like the scpt SlimServer control script within Salling
Clicker can be accessed and edited.

It looks like it uses the web interface to send CLI commands, using
/status.txt?player=idp0=foop1=barp2=... etc

I don't have a fancy mobile device so I can't test it, but does it work
for some things, or not at all?  Do you see any error messages?


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Masterbaron

hello and thanks for stepping forward - this is the food of the gods for
some...

SC does have very limited functionality remaining with 6.5 - you can
start and stop a song, you can skip a song i think. you can NO longer
see the tracks that are playing and you can'y raise or lower the
volume.

Jonas (SC) says much more is broken then meets the eye.. here's his
email response to me...

Actually, the functionality is a lot more broken than you think.
You're seeing limited functionality as you'd previously used the
controller with an olders version of Slimserver. The parts of the
scripts that deal with player selection and such hang (because the
web API that slimserver provides hangs). So a new user wouldn't get
it to work at all.

It is actually quite a lot of work to redo this. Probably two weeks or
so of full-time work to completely replace (and test) what has been
lost.

Also, to say the scripts aren't open source is not quite true. They can
be opened, inspected and modified by anyone. In fact, like I indicated
in my last email, I'd encourage this.

However, what SD recommends we use is a telnet-style API, and it'd be
difficult to harness such a thing from AppleScript. The HTTP-based API
previously offered is what's broken; not sure how much of it. It'd
probably be easier for them to fix this than to change the controller
scripts.

so as you can see there more going on here - the email address to SC is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - jonas is very good at responding
promptly..

i called SD today to ask a stupid question are there plans to support
wireless remote and i'm sure you know the answer..

so thank you upfront for your time and assistance - and to be honest
when i get home tonight i'm going to try the SD handheld interface
(duh).


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread andyg

I think we've actually got a bug with status.txt... this could have been
resolved so easily if they would have bothered to file a bug.  I'm
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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread andyg

Looks like the word is that status.txt has been deprecated for a long
time and will no longer be supported in 6.5 for use as a CLI interface.
Jonas is aware of the proper telnet CLI interface and should move to
that.  Some good news here is that the AppleScript for controlling
SlimServer is open and anyone could update it.


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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Masterbaron

as i told you Jonas is good about followup - here's his latest
suggestion:

he says to start with this -

curl http://192.168.1.192:9000/status.txt?p0=playerp1=count;
(replace the host:port appropriately)

This call never finishes.

the above is the content of his message - he also indicates he may
separate the SS scripts from the install and make them a separate
download - allowing others to update, tweak and modify the scripts as
time goes on. So - while not open source the door is open.

I will try to assist wherever i can with testing and feedback - i feel
this is an important integration that offers users a professioal
one-stop remote option for the automation heads and lazy souls like
myself. i only wish i was proficient enough to contribute more to the
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[slim] Re: Sean Please -SlimServer Salling Clicker 3.0

2006-10-04 Thread Nicoleto

I jus tried to redo the applescript and as you already found there is a
bug in the status.txt responce. Actually it does not responds the same
way it used to. What I found is that SC uses the headers of the
status.txt responce to find out the status of the server. It sends the
command in the form of:

http://host_address/status.txt?p0p1p2p3p4

When SC sends the command it gets no responce from the server (unless
of course the command being sent is advance song or play pause).


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