[slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-12-01 Thread Paul Webster

Michael Herger;158864 Wrote: 
  Do you know which plugin that is ?
 
 I think it's the rhapsody plugin.
It is in the base Slimserver 6.5
If you have a UPnP server on the network and Slimserver can find it -
then it will appear in the Browse dialogue.

In fact - I've noticed some problems with it recently ... so I must
have another look and report back
(things that I can play with XBMC, don't play via Slimserver)


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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-30 Thread Marc Sherman

GungHo wrote:
netim3;158436 Wrote: 

Given that SlimDevices only make money when you buy their hardware (the
software is free), they have little economic incentive to make the
software UPnP compatible.


True that the slimserver is free but can only be used with SqeezeBox (I
think). And the more flexible the server is the more SqeezeBoxes they
will sell ! 


I'm sure that if you or someone else were to code up working UPnP server 
support in slimserver, the patch would be happily accepted. The point is 
that you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for Slim Devices to fund 
development of UPnP support, because doing so doesn't sell them more 
Squeezeboxes.


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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-30 Thread Marc Sherman
Raphaël HUCK wrote:
 What would help them sell more SqueezeBoxes would be to add support for 
 UPnP in the firmware.

You're changing the subject. The OP is talking about a UPnP _server_
integrated into Slimserver. That is possible, but not in any current
plan I've ever seen. What you're talking about is a UPnP _client_ in
squeezebox firmware, which is a completely different feature, and a lot
less likely to ever happen, I think.

The third option, a UPnP _client_ integrated into slimserver, is already
available as a plugin, I think.

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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-30 Thread Raphaël HUCK
What would help them sell more SqueezeBoxes would be to add support for 
UPnP in the firmware.



You're changing the subject.


You were talking about UPnP, and the fact that this feature would not 
help them sell more Squeezeboxes.


I just gave my opinion which is that UPnP would be more useful as a 
client in the Squeezebox firmware.



The OP is talking about a UPnP _server_ integrated into Slimserver.


As I had been playing with a Roku SoundBridge, a SqueezeBox, mt-daap, 
SlimServer and Gmediaserver, and was disappointed with the Squeezebox 
only supporting SlimServer instead of being UPnP compatible.


Apart from that, it is my favourite network player (best sound, best 
design, best user interface, supports WPA).


But as the server of my network audio player must fit in less than 800kb 
(my embedded system, a SOHO, has 6Mb of flash and is running Linux), I 
cannot use SlimServer as it is too big and uses Perl.


So I'm using gmediaserver (it takes less than 300kb, is coded in C, and 
supports UPnP), so I can use the Roku Soundbridge (but gmediaserver also 
supports NETGEAR Wireless Digital Music Player, Linksys Wireless-B Music 
System, Philips Streamium, D-Link DSM-520, Terratec NOXON audio, 
Pinnacle ShowCenter... as they are all UPnP compatible).



What you're talking about is a UPnP _client_ in  squeezebox firmware


Exactly.


which is a completely different feature, and a lot
less likely to ever happen, I think.


It is also about UPnP, and a lot more useful IMHO.

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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-30 Thread Marc Sherman
Raphaël HUCK wrote:
 What you're talking about is a UPnP _client_ in  squeezebox firmware
 
 It is also about UPnP, and a lot more useful IMHO.

Well, sure, it would be pretty damn useful if I could grow wings out of
my back so that I could fly to work in the morning and avoid the
rush-hour traffic, but it's not very likely to happen.

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[slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-30 Thread GungHo

Marc Sherman;158690 Wrote: 
 
 The third option, a UPnP _client_ integrated into slimserver, is
 already
 available as a plugin, I think.
 
 - Marc

Do you know which plugin that is ?


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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-30 Thread Michael Herger

Do you know which plugin that is ?


I think it's the rhapsody plugin.

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[slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-29 Thread netim3

Given that SlimDevices only make money when you buy their hardware (the
software is free), they have little economic incentive to make the
software UPnP compatible. 

Have you looked at Telcanto as a solution for controling your system? I
use it with a library of 1,000 albums and a multi-room setup (6 rooms),
and also use it to access AlienBBC.


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[slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-29 Thread GungHo

netim3;158436 Wrote: 
 Given that SlimDevices only make money when you buy their hardware (the
 software is free), they have little economic incentive to make the
 software UPnP compatible.

True that the slimserver is free but can only be used with SqeezeBox (I
think). And the more flexible the server is the more SqeezeBoxes they
will sell ! 

netim3;158436 Wrote: 
 Have you looked at Telcanto as a solution for controling your system? I
 use it with a library of 1,000 albums and a multi-room setup (6 rooms),
 and also use it to access AlienBBC.

That looks nice but what it lacks is a profesional approax for
controling the rest of the A/V system that you only get from
a good 2 way universal remote !


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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-29 Thread Jack Coates

On 11/29/06, GungHo
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netim3;158436 Wrote:
 Given that SlimDevices only make money when you buy their hardware (the
 software is free), they have little economic incentive to make the
 software UPnP compatible.

True that the slimserver is free but can only be used with SqeezeBox (I
think). And the more flexible the server is the more SqeezeBoxes they
will sell !



there's actually a respectable number of people who say they're using
it with softsqueeze only. You can also stream to any media player that
takes mp3 streams.
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[slim] Re: SlimServer and uPnP again

2006-11-28 Thread GungHo

oreillymj;158035 Wrote: 
 The remote control aspect of the Philips product and uPNP bit are
 separate functions from what I can tell.
 
 You install the Philips media server on your PC and you can stream
 audio to the actual remote for playback. It has a headphone socket for
 use as a portable audio device.
 There's nothing to stop you installing this software and pointing it at
 the same music directory as your Slim box is configured to use.
 Don't know how great the streaming would be over it's 802.11B wireless
 adapter.
 
 My PSP struggles to stream using it's 802.11B adapter. It isn't able to
 stream 224Kb VBR MP3's without break ups.
 
 I'm not sure if it has web browsing functionality to mimic what people
 are using the Nokia 770 for.

It is true that you can stream music with the Phillips RC9800,
but the quality is quite poor !

What I want is to be able to control the SlimServer and see music
folders which you can do with the phillips server software.

So it seem like if the SlimServer where uPnP compliant the same would
be possible with SlimServer.


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