Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-10 Thread max . spicer

Michael Herger;256312 Wrote: 
  I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the
 new
  receiver.
 
 Because users have been asking for this kind of device.

Good rationale.  I was assuming that the products with display line
(i.e. the SB3, at the moment) was going to be withdrawn.  If they
coexist, then I can see it makes sense.

Thanks,

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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-10 Thread m1abrams

mkt;256580 Wrote: 
 This sounds like a perfect plan to me, but at this point it seems to
 require buying at least one SB Controller, which makes it harder to
 slip by the CFO.:-)
 
 From the SB Receiver system requirements:
 
 Squeezbox Controller required for network setup

While this may not be required in the future, it will only require 1. 
Which I personally like the SB controller specifically for a multiroom
setup.  Now I wont have more than 1 though.


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-10 Thread studley

bigfool1956;256805 Wrote: 
 Lately I've been having a problem with the now playing display on my
 turntable. It seems that after all these years my eyes are struggling
 to focus on text that rotates through 360° every 2 seconds.

Have you tried slowing it down to something like 33 RPM? 8)

David


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-10 Thread bigfool1956

Lately I've been having a problem with the now playing display on my
turntable. It seems that after all these years my eyes are struggling
to focus on text that rotates through 360° every 2 seconds.


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[slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread max . spicer

I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new
receiver.  I understand that the controller now does all the display
work, but can't see how this removes the need for a display on the
receiver itself.  The controller provides a great interface for
selecting and browsing music, but I find the Squeezebox's display
invaluable for actually seeing what is being played.  With multi-room
audio, this is especially an issue, as you get the possibility of one
room's audio being programmed from somewhere completely different. 
Without a display on the receiver, how do people in the room know what
they're listening to?

Max


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Gibbo

Put a screen on it and you have a SB3 as far as 99.9% of people are
concerned. Plus apparently the screen is the expensive part, so no
screen means they can provide the receiver as a low cost option.


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Herger
 I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new
 receiver.

Because users have been asking for this kind of device.

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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Gibbo

It seems pretty obvious to me. 

if you want a screen, then buy a SB3 and a jive controller.


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread aubuti

Michael Herger;256312 Wrote: 
  I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the
 new
  receiver.
 
 Because users have been asking for this kind of device.
 
 Michael
They've either been asking directly, or indirectly, as in Why can't
you make an SB that is much less expensive, say, around the $150 price
point? Taking away the VFD makes that possible. A lot of users still
prefer controlling their SB2/SB3 via computer, pda, Nokia770, etc, so
this works for them without the SBC. And with the SBC, you don't need
the VFD.

I guess the other indirect way of asking for it that is often heard in
these forums is Why can't it be more like Sonos?  ;o)


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread mr_bill

Michael Herger;256312 Wrote: 
  I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the
 new
  receiver.
 
 Because users have been asking for this kind of device.
 
 Michael

Michael,

I am interested in the new Duet and especially the Jive as I already
have a Transporter and would like the new remote.

I use Media Monkey to manage my files.  I would like the album artwork
to show on the Jive when I buy one.  I am filling in the album artwork
now in Media Monkey for the files.  Will this album artwork show up in
the Jive remote when I'm selecting - is that how that works?

Thanks,
Bill


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Herger
 I use Media Monkey to manage my files.  I would like the album artwork
 to show on the Jive when I buy one.  I am filling in the album artwork
 now in Media Monkey for the files.  Will this album artwork show up in
 the Jive remote when I'm selecting - is that how that works?

If the artwork shows up in SqueezeCenter/SlimServer then it will also be 
displayed on the Controller. It's displayed while browsing albums, or during 
playback.


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread m1abrams

For multi-room setup I would considering not having a screen a bonus
because in rooms where i just want some music going but not want it the
focal point I tend to hide the audio gear anyhow.  Nice to now have an
option to not have to pay for something I wont use.

Now keep in mind you still can get the version with the screen, course
it costs more because well the screens are not cheap.  So for me when I
get the money, I will have an SB3 in the family room, SB3 in the
bedroom, and then just receivers in the kitchen, living room, computer
room, upstairs landing.  Course I will be buying those extra receivers
one at a time so the CFO of the house does not notice.


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

mr_bill;256519 Wrote: 
 Is their something I should be doing to get that artwork to show or a
 link you can point me to that will help like a faq?

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?AlbumArtwork


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Herger
 Is their something I should be doing to get that artwork to show or a
 link you can point me to that will help like a faq?

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?AlbumArtwork

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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread mr_bill

Michael Herger;256432 Wrote: 
  I use Media Monkey to manage my files.  I would like the album
 artwork
  to show on the Jive when I buy one.  I am filling in the album
 artwork
  now in Media Monkey for the files.  Will this album artwork show up
 in
  the Jive remote when I'm selecting - is that how that works?
 
 If the artwork shows up in SqueezeCenter/SlimServer then it will also
 be displayed on the Controller. It's displayed while browsing albums,
 or during playback.
 
 -- 
 
 Michael

So I just checked the new Squeezecenter v7.0 that I have installed and
checked an album that has the album art show on media monkey, but it
doesn't show in Squeezecenter when I bring up that same album.
Is their something I should be doing to get that artwork to show or a
link you can point me to that will help like a faq?
Thanks Michael,
Bill


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread JJZolx

max.spicer;256298 Wrote: 
 Without a display on the receiver, how do people in the room know what
 they're listening to?

Oh, man.  How have they known for the last 100 years?

I usually run my Transporter with the display off.


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread mkt

m1abrams;256504 Wrote: 
 
 Now keep in mind you still can get the version with the screen, course
 it costs more because well the screens are not cheap.  So for me when I
 get the money, I will have an SB3 in the family room, SB3 in the
 bedroom, and then just receivers in the kitchen, living room, computer
 room, upstairs landing.  Course I will be buying those extra receivers
 one at a time so the CFO of the house does not notice.

This sounds like a perfect plan to me, but at this point it seems to
require buying at least one SB Controller, which makes it harder to
slip by the CFO.:-)

From the SB Receiver system requirements:

Squeezbox Controller required for network setup


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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread Ben Sandee
On Jan 9, 2008 3:55 PM, mkt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This sounds like a perfect plan to me, but at this point it seems to
 require buying at least one SB Controller, which makes it harder to
 slip by the CFO.:-)

 From the SB Receiver system requirements:

 Squeezbox Controller required for network setup


This has been discussed almost ad-nauseum in other threads.  It's extremely
likely that there will be an 'unofficial' (community-driven) way to perform
the network setup, eliminating the need for the SBC if that's what you want.

I really wish this caveat could be removed from the specs officially just
so that we could stop having to point people in the right direction every
time someone points out the limitation because I think it's been mentioned
at least a dozen times.

I have to wonder if some marketroid somewhere thinks that they'll force the
less technically savvy user to get the Duet bundle, but keep the community
uproar down to a minimum by allowing the SBR to work standalone using
unsupported means.

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Re: [slim] Receiver with no display - why?

2008-01-09 Thread studley

max.spicer;256298 Wrote: 
 I'm curious about the rational behind removing the display from the new
 receiver.  I understand that the controller now does all the display
 work, but can't see how this removes the need for a display on the
 receiver itself.  The controller provides a great interface for
 selecting and browsing music, but I find the Squeezebox's display
 invaluable for actually seeing what is being played.  With multi-room
 audio, this is especially an issue, as you get the possibility of one
 room's audio being programmed from somewhere completely different. 
 Without a display on the receiver, how do people in the room know what
 they're listening to?
 
 Max

I, for instance, have a SqueezeBox in my media cabinet which drives
music to speakers throughout the house.  No one ever sees it.  It
simply sits there in the dark connected to the amp (looking all sad and
lonely, I imagine).  No need for a display there.

Cheers, David


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