Re: [slim] Remote key not working
kidstypike wrote: > IR isn't much use if there's no screen to show the user where he/she is > in the menu structure. :confused:Generally true, but I use receiver in > conservatory where I got exercise bike.. All I need is simple power ,volume,play, next,prev buttons ..usually happy with whatever is on queue anyway :) 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
kidstypike wrote: > IR isn't much use if there's no screen to show the user where he/she is > in the menu structure. :confused: maybe just volume, mute, ffwd, rew? I agree that the duet was designed as a set, and receivers sold on their own were intended for additional rooms. So a receiver was never intended to be standalone. In a way, it's like a Roku streamer. They were intended to only work with roku remotes, but people wanted integrated "smart" remotes, hence the roku 3/ultra (with IR), which I have, because I want one harmony remote to control everything. I don't want to use two remotes. I imagine Roku's early models had a similar design philosophy to the Duet. Maybe if there had been additional generations of the receiver, there would be IR again, I steer the conversation way off topic, sorry :o Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > Ohh I was hoping you would say.. :"Yeah it's possible to add IR to > receiver " :) IR isn't much use if there's no screen to show the user where he/she is in the menu structure. :confused: *LMS server/study player - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/NanoSound ONE case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xSB Radio, 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
ralphy wrote: > You are correct. I've updated my post. I've never had a receiver or > controller.Ohh I was hoping you would say.. :"Yeah it's possible to add IR to receiver " :) 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > Just one side question.. you've listed Receiver as i3pk players with > IR.. I was under impression there is no IR in receiver and it's not > possible to add one. Is that not right? You are correct. I've updated my post. I've never had a receiver or controller. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *2*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=LL5P6365KQEXN&lc=CA&item_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
ralphy wrote: > For the i3pk players...sb1, sb2, sb3, transporter, boom, receiver, you > need to create a new IR mapping on LMS, put the file in the LMS IR > folder, restart LMS and then enable/disable the remotes you what the > player to respond to in the players remote settings page. > > For the i3pk players, you can enable player.ir logging to info or debug > and LMS logs the IR codes received. I discussed this 'here' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101905-SKY-remote-How-to-control-your-Squeezebox-Radio&p=789668&viewfull=1#post789668). > > The touch and radio don't use the LMS IR maps.Oh I guess it all makes sense > now. In my case it was Radio and Touch in same room so disabling IR on one of them is indeed best option. Thank you Ralphy for clarification! Just one side question.. you've listed Receiver as i3pk players with IR.. I was under impression there is no IR in receiver and it's not possible to add one. Is that not right? 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Good information to know Ralphy... I have managed to steer this thread WAY off topic, but this is what I had dim memories about: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109379-IR-Codes-shared-by-boom-and-touch&highlight= apparently it's just for the boom, which the device that is NOT being discussed :o Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Redrum wrote: > Details are fuzzy, I'd have to look into it, but some devices (is it the > boom only? others?) you can change the IR code set... > > Jim For the i3pk players...sb1, sb2, sb3, transporter, boom, receiver, you need to create a new IR mapping on LMS, put the file in the LMS IR folder, restart LMS and then enable/disable the remotes you what the player to respond to in the players remote settings page. For the i3pk players, you can enable player.ir logging to info or debug and LMS logs the IR codes received. I discussed this 'here' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101905-SKY-remote-How-to-control-your-Squeezebox-Radio&p=789668&viewfull=1#post789668). The touch and radio don't use the LMS IR maps. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *2*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=LL5P6365KQEXN&lc=CA&item_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > It was asked by few members on forums including myself, if there is a > way to reprogram remote so it can be used with 2 devices in one room.. > Best advice I came across was to disable IR on one of devices, but > surely what you suggested is the way better solution. Thanks! Details are fuzzy, I'd have to look into it, but some devices (is it the boom only? others?) you can change the IR code set... Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > I did think about harmony remotes while ago, but I thought it's all > discountinued so better to stay away. Saying that it's probably possible > to get it on ebay Once the drop announcement came out, I picked up a couple I didn't need, I like them that much. They are especially nice for members of the household/guests, because they are easy. Press the button next to "Watch TV". I think the 650 was about $70USD years ago. I see them now for about $20 - 40 on our side. I think that Logitech will continue to host "my harmony" because they have deployed millions of devices that depend on it (sound familiar? :p) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Redrum wrote:
> Also, as an option to what Ralphy is suggesting, the Logitech Harmony
> Remotes, which use the "my harmony" software can be programmed to
> control a Touch or Radio (My Harmony has a code database entry for
> them). I use couple Harmony 650s to control touches in different
> locations, and have set them up for friends.
>
> Note that Logitech has discontinued the Harmony Remotes, but they are
> still available on the secondary market. I like the 650/665 because they
> are simple, inexpensive, have a small TFT screen, and can control
> multiple devices, and you can program activities ("Listen to Touch",
> "Watch a DVD", "Stream", etc.)
>
> JimI did think about harmony remotes while ago, but I thought it's all
discountinued so better to stay away. Saying that it's probably possible
to get it on ebay
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Re: [slim] Remote key not working
ralphy wrote:
> You can also use any remote with the Touch/Radio that "speaks" the nec
> IR protocol.
>
> You update the /usr/share/jive/jive/irMap_default.lua file with the
> "new" codes sent for each button on the alternative remote to the jive
> action(s) you want.
>
> A patch installer file can be used to modify the mappings, which makes
> it simple to reinstall after a firmware upgrade.
>
> Unfortunately, it's not usually easy to identify what protocol a remote
> uses unless you already have it.
> I have a box of old remotes, 7 or 8 of them and only the one from an old
> Popcorn Hour A-100 sent nec codes.
>
> 'A picture of the remote'
> (http://forum.flirc.tv/uploads/monthly_2016_02/popcorn-hour-remote.thumb.jpg.74419983b1bf7736a19bcdd5304f27b7.jpg).
>
> Here's my config for that remote. I use it on one of my 2 radios as
> they are in the same room setup as a stereo pair.
> >
Code:
> > -- IR button name to IR code for Syabas Popcorn Hour A-100 remote
control
> irMap = {}
> irMap["name"] = "Popcorn Hour A100"
> irMap["map"] = {
> [0x20d3609f] = "arrow_up",
> [0x20d350af] = "arrow_down",
> [0x20d3c23d] = "arrow_left",
> [0x20d3807f] = "arrow_right",
> [0x20d3906f] = "menu_home",
> [0x20d30af5] = "play",
> [0x20d32ad5] = "pause",
> [0x20d3a05f] = "add",-- Source
> [0x20d348B7] = "rew",-- Previous
> [0x20d3b04f] = "fwd",
> [0x20d38877] = "fwd",-- Next
> [0x20d3728d] = "volup",
> [0x20d34ab5] = "voldown",
> [0x20d38a75] = "mute",
> [0x20d3d827] = "0",
> [0x20d3827d] = "1",
> [0x20d3c03f] = "2",
> [0x20d342bd] = "3",
> [0x20d3a25d] = "4",
> [0x20d3e01f] = "5",
> [0x20d3629d] = "6",
> [0x20d3aa55] = "7",
> [0x20d3e817] = "8",
> [0x20d36a95] = "9",
> [0x20d3b24d] = "sleep",-- Suspend/BT
> [0x20d352ad] = "power",
> [0x20d312ed] = "favorites",-- File Mode
> [0x20d3f00f] = "search",-- Setup
> [0x20d3d22d] = "menu_playlist",-- Info
> [0x20d36897] = "shuffle",-- Angle
> [0x20d3ea15] = "repeat",
> [0x20d3f20d] = "now_playing",-- Title
> [0x20d322dd] = "size",-- Eject
> [0x20d3c837] = "brightness",-- TV Mode
> [0x20d3ca35] = "browse",-- Menu
> [0x20d340bf] = "arrow_right",-- Enter
> [0x20d332cd] = "pause",-- Stop
> [0x20d3e21d] = "arrow_left",-- Return
> [0x20d39a65] = "arrow_left",-- Delete
> [0x20d35aa5] = "dead",-- Caps/Num
> [0x20d3da25] = "preset_1",-- Time Seek
> [0x20d358a7] = "preset_2",-- Audio
> [0x20d31ae5] = "preset_3",-- Subtitle
> [0x20d39867] = "preset_4",-- Zoom
> [0x20d3fa05] = "preset_5",-- Red
> [0x20d37887] = "preset_6",-- Green
> [0x20d33ac5] = "dead",-- Yellow
> [0x20d3b847] = "dead",-- Blue
> }
>
> >
>
> Anyway, just something to keep in mind as the supply of
> slimdevices/logitech remotes dry up and/or die.
>
> If anyone is interested in how to obtain the IR codes sent from an
> alternate remote. I can put together a quick howto.It was asked by few
> members on forums including myself, if there is a
way to reprogram remote so it can be used with 2 devices in one room..
Best advice I came across was to disable IR on one of devices, but
surely what you suggested is the way better solution. Thanks!
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Re: [slim] Remote key not working
ralphy wrote:
> You can also use any remote with the Touch/Radio that "speaks" the nec
> IR protocol.
>
>
Also, as an option to what Ralphy is suggesting, the Logitech Harmony
Remotes, which use the "my harmony" software can be programmed to
control a Touch or Radio (My Harmony has a code database entry for
them). I use couple Harmony 650s to control touches in different
locations, and have set them up for friends.
Note that Logitech has discontinued the Harmony Remotes, but they are
still available on the secondary market. I like the 650/665 because they
are simple, inexpensive, have a small TFT screen, and can control
multiple devices, and you can program activities ("Listen to Touch",
"Watch a DVD", "Stream", etc.)
Jim
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Re: [slim] Remote key not working
You can also use any remote with the Touch/Radio that "speaks" the nec
IR protocol.
You update the /usr/share/jive/jive/irMap_default.lua file with the
"new" codes sent for each button on the alternative remote to the jive
action(s) you want.
A patch installer file can be used to modify the mappings, which makes
it simple to reinstall after a firmware upgrade.
Unfortunately, it's not usually easy to identify what protocol a remote
uses unless you already have it.
I have a box of old remotes, 7 or 8 of them and only the one from an old
Popcorn Hour A-100 sent nec codes.
'A picture of the remote'
(http://forum.flirc.tv/uploads/monthly_2016_02/popcorn-hour-remote.thumb.jpg.74419983b1bf7736a19bcdd5304f27b7.jpg).
Here's my config for that remote. I use it on one of my 2 radios as
they are in the same room setup as a stereo pair.
Code:
-- IR button name to IR code for Syabas Popcorn Hour A-100 remote control
irMap = {}
irMap["name"] = "Popcorn Hour A100"
irMap["map"] = {
[0x20d3609f] = "arrow_up",
[0x20d350af] = "arrow_down",
[0x20d3c23d] = "arrow_left",
[0x20d3807f] = "arrow_right",
[0x20d3906f] = "menu_home",
[0x20d30af5] = "play",
[0x20d32ad5] = "pause",
[0x20d3a05f] = "add", -- Source
[0x20d348B7] = "rew", -- Previous
[0x20d3b04f] = "fwd",
[0x20d38877] = "fwd", -- Next
[0x20d3728d] = "volup",
[0x20d34ab5] = "voldown",
[0x20d38a75] = "mute",
[0x20d3d827] = "0",
[0x20d3827d] = "1",
[0x20d3c03f] = "2",
[0x20d342bd] = "3",
[0x20d3a25d] = "4",
[0x20d3e01f] = "5",
[0x20d3629d] = "6",
[0x20d3aa55] = "7",
[0x20d3e817] = "8",
[0x20d36a95] = "9",
[0x20d3b24d] = "sleep", -- Suspend/BT
[0x20d352ad] = "power",
[0x20d312ed] = "favorites", -- File Mode
[0x20d3f00f] = "search",-- Setup
[0x20d3d22d] = "menu_playlist", -- Info
[0x20d36897] = "shuffle", -- Angle
[0x20d3ea15] = "repeat",
[0x20d3f20d] = "now_playing", -- Title
[0x20d322dd] = "size", -- Eject
[0x20d3c837] = "brightness",-- TV Mode
[0x20d3ca35] = "browse",-- Menu
[0x20d340bf] = "arrow_right", -- Enter
[0x20d332cd] = "pause", -- Stop
[0x20d3e21d] = "arrow_left",-- Return
[0x20d39a65] = "arrow_left",-- Delete
[0x20d35aa5] = "dead", -- Caps/Num
[0x20d3da25] = "preset_1", -- Time Seek
[0x20d358a7] = "preset_2", -- Audio
[0x20d31ae5] = "preset_3", -- Subtitle
[0x20d39867] = "preset_4", -- Zoom
[0x20d3fa05] = "preset_5", -- Red
[0x20d37887] = "preset_6", -- Green
[0x20d33ac5] = "dead", -- Yellow
[0x20d3b847] = "dead", -- Blue
}
Anyway, just something to keep in mind as the supply of
slimdevices/logitech remotes dry up and/or die.
If anyone is interested in how to obtain the IR codes sent from an
alternate remote. I can put together a quick howto.
Ralphy
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(https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations'
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Re: [slim] Remote key not working
kidstypike wrote: > I had the same problem with one of my Touch remotes, couple of keys not > working. I bought one of these progammable remotes - > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263268664186 > > You do of course need a working original remote to programme it. You can > use different remotes to programme specific keys. I used 3 of the keys > to control speaker on/off and volume, the rest control my Raspberry > Pi/Jivelite screen. You also need a good memory as some the assigned key > legends are not all that intuitive! :D > > Works great, cracking remote, sits flat on my desk where I spend most of > my time, it doesn't move rock or wobble when pressing a key. > > 37188Now that's neat.. it would actually replace 2 remotes touch and hifi(dying one) ..I really like that.. probably more sensible then re-soldering chip [emoji4] 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
chill wrote: > I'm not sure if this chap ever made his replacement PCBs available, or > whether he has any left, but this video is worth a watch: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ9gjYHB8MFascinating watch..almost like > asmr and you can learn smth :) There is no info about pcb though..hmm 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Redrum wrote: > > > Hey, you can be the Joe Much of remotes!! :) > > Haha.. I very much doubt that :) Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I had the same problem with one of my Touch remotes, couple of keys not working. I bought one of these progammable remotes - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263268664186 You do of course need a working original remote to programme it. You can use different remotes to programme specific keys. I used 3 of the keys to control speaker on/off and volume, the rest control my Raspberry Pi/Jivelite screen. You also need a good memory as some the assigned key legends are not all that intuitive! :D Works great, cracking remote, sits flat on my desk where I spend most of my time, it doesn't move rock or wobble when pressing a key. 37188 +---+ |Filename: remote programmable.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37188| +---+ *LMS server/study player - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/NanoSound ONE case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xSB Radio, 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm not sure if this chap ever made his replacement PCBs available, or whether he has any left, but this video is worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ9gjYHB8M chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
If you have cleaned the landing area of the keys with a pencil eraser, maybe a bit of deoxit, and it still doesn't work, but looks ok, perhaps the carbon on the key itself has deteriorated. If you wanted to, since you have more than one, swap the keypad to see if the problem is the pcb or the keypad. If it is a certain key(s) on the keypad, and you wish to spend a little $ to descend further into the rabbit hole, carbon conductive paint is available to "restore" the conductive properties of the pad. Here's a link to Amazon (US). I am sure something similar on your side. https://www.amazon.com/Bare-Conductive-Electric-Paint-10ml/dp/B00KBXT6JW/ref=asc_df_B00KBXT6JW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312361191037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13022133765698490056&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005508&hvtargid=pla-570513770808&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=62542142539&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312361191037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13022133765698490056&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005508&hvtargid=pla-570513770808 Hey, you can be the Joe Much of remotes!! :) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Redrum wrote: > From the wiki page on wire wrap: "Wire wrap construction became popular > around 1960 in circuit board manufacturing, and use has now sharply > declined. Surface-mount technology has made the technique much less > useful than in previous decades. Solder-less breadboards and the > decreasing cost of professionally made PCBs have nearly eliminated this > technology" > > so it was a joke, and it was a reference to the fact that I used to use > itin the 80's :p. Hence the joke about dating myself. > > But, when I started working on prototype PCB's, wire wrap was on it's > way out and we had a ton of the wire laying round. As long as it doesn't > have to handle much current, it's great for pcb mods and repairs. You > can pre-shape it, put a bit of solder on the landing pads, place the > wire and just touch with a soldering iron. > > JimOhh I see :). Thanks for explanation I had a go at other remote and even attempted using solder to restore trace.. It worked as you described.. At least couple of traces I tried.. The pcb slightly got cooked so maybe I applied too my heat it too long... Anyway sadly this time repair wasn't successful... Even when multi meter beeps with every via.. Few buttons are still not responding... I've noticed a lot more of corrosion on this pcb compared to other one so perhaps this "went into" chip itself.. Not sure but I gave up.. I got now 2 working ones and one broken. Frankly I'm using material apk 85% of time anyway... It's just sometimes nice to quickly skip song or turn touch off without phone 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > I didn't get wire wrap date joke though (Assuming it was joke.. I'm one > of those pesky eastern europeans ;p so you know ) >From the wiki page on wire wrap: "Wire wrap construction became popular around 1960 in circuit board manufacturing, and use has now sharply declined. Surface-mount technology has made the technique much less useful than in previous decades. Solder-less breadboards and the decreasing cost of professionally made PCBs have nearly eliminated this technology" so it was a joke, and it was a reference to the fact that I used to use itin the 80's :p. Hence the joke about dating myself. But, when I started working on prototype PCB's, wire wrap was on it's way out and we had a ton of the wire laying round. As long as it doesn't have to handle much current, it's great for pcb mods and repairs. You can pre-shape it, put a bit of solder on the landing pads, place the wire and just touch with a soldering iron. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Redrum wrote: > cool! Wire wrap wire works real well for those jumpers if you have any > #26-#30 laying around. Just mentioning wire wrap might date me :). Since > it's single strand it allows you to shape the jumper, and being small > it's not likely to get in the way of anything. Also if you wanted to > attempt a repair with just solder and a small tip, the solder will only > stick to the exposed copper, so if you used an exacto knife to scrape > away the coating exposing the trace that you expect to be broken, you > don't have to be real precise with the iron, the solder will only adhere > to the exposed copper. It might look like it blobs over other traces, > but as long as they aren't exposed copper you are ok. > > You also mentioned the "holes" corresponding to problem areas. The holes > are "vias" and they are basically a copper plated hole that allows a > trace on one side of the board to the other (assuming 2 layer board for > simplicity). So if you suspected a via is bad, scrape a bit on each > side, maybe scrape the hole with a drill bit, and blob the solder > through it. > > Nice fix! I digress :) > > JimThank you for terminology clarification and pointers for better repair. I didn't get wire wrap date joke though (Assuming it was joke.. I'm one of those pesky eastern europeans ;p so you know ) Anyway I couldn't image its possible to run such a think trace with solder but if like you said I don't have to worry about others as long as those are not exposed... Then I may just try it on other remote.. Thanks [emoji106] Ohh BTW all via were actually OK.. I tried to short connections in various places with batteries to see Touch response or lack of it 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > > > This is too tiny with my soldering skills to properly fix so had to > improvise and weird things turned out to be working :) > > cool! Wire wrap wire works real well for those jumpers if you have any #26-#30 laying around. Just mentioning wire wrap might date me :). Since it's single strand it allows you to shape the jumper, and being small it's not likely to get in the way of anything. Also if you wanted to attempt a repair with just solder and a small tip, the solder will only stick to the exposed copper, so if you used an exacto knife to scrape away the coating exposing the trace that you expect to be broken, you don't have to be real precise with the iron, the solder will only adhere to the exposed copper. It might look like it blobs over other traces, but as long as they aren't exposed copper you are ok. You also mentioned the "holes" corresponding to problem areas. The holes are "vias" and they are basically a copper plated hole that allows a trace on one side of the board to the other (assuming 2 layer board for simplicity). So if you suspected a via is bad, scrape a bit on each side, maybe scrape the hole with a drill bit, and blob the solder through it. Nice fix! I digress :) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
OK so this is probably worst repair job ever [emoji23] but it works.. It was as suspected faulty pcb track/trace whatever proper name... It didn't show obvious break but it was kind off faded.. Little dot in other place which I assume was break turned out to be fine.. This is too tiny with my soldering skills to properly fix so had to improvise and weird things turned out to be working :) I might attempt to fix other one too. [image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220206/fffea578071e2fc45afcd8ac7740634f.jpg][image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220206/ad05e67af3864b1a3baafb8c960d9924.jpg] 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Redrum wrote: > if you mean the little hand held remote similar to all of the other ones > (tv, etc) laying around... > > often you can open the case and clean it. The buttons consist of > interlaced copper traces on the pcb board, and the silicone pad (the > button) has a carbon deposit on it (usually carbon, I think?). When > pressed, the carbon shorts the interlaced traces, giving you a press. > > all sort of stuff can be happening when they don't work, dirt, spills, > age (the copper can oxidize)try to use a pencil eraser on the copper > pad locations to buff them up a bit, then basically wash the silicone > pad (carefully where the carbon is). Also, take a look at the case that > the buttons protrude through and make sure they aren't gunked up which > might cause a button to stick. I have had other remotes that "don't > work" where I discovered a button was stuck, preventing everything from > working > > If all of that fails, I might have one somewhere I can send to you, not > sure, I'd have to look. Are they the same as the Radios? I really don't > use them. > > Jim Thanks Jim I will give that a try Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.1 - 1633378390 @ Mon Oct 4 23:28:51 CEST 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Sorry just to add yeah I tried aluminium foil to tests pads themselves but no luck. 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Redrum wrote: > not saying you aren't correct, but it's worth trying to clean. It is > very common for one button, or an area to fail, possibly because of a > spill. a pcb trace failure is possible, but it should be visible under a > magnifier. Also when using a multimeter for checking traces, realize > there may be a conformal coating over them (but not the button landing > pads). You need to use sharp meter probes to pierce the coating to test. > You could try hunk of something conductive (like copper solder wick) and > press onto the button in question spot to see if the ir functions > trigger. This might indicate a problem with the carbon on the bottom of > the silicone. > > Again, I could rummage around and fine one, maybe two...who knows, I > have all sorts of parts :) > > JimThanks Jim, I did use spiky multimeter prongs with holes on pcb and legs of chip.. Maybe it was coincidence but some of hole corresponding to not working pads didn't beep on one remote but it did on other.. Same other way round.. I could see some tiny dots on some tracks but I have up further investigation.. Hmm maybe I will try again :) 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Jaca wrote: > Weirdly 2 of my SB Touch remotes recently developed this problem.. > > One has not working next and sleep, where other previous and back > arrow. > > I had a look inside to do usual remote clean and possibly foil trick but > it seems that pcb tracks started to fail... I checked with multimeter > buzzer and there is no connection to chip form faulty buttons.. > > Don't think I'm skilled to fix that narrow track and doubt there is > other magic fix. > > I bet your remote suffers from same problem if it's only particular > button not working.. > > BTW I have checked on other devices to rule out infamous power supply > failure not saying you aren't correct, but it's worth trying to clean. It is very common for one button, or an area to fail, possibly because of a spill. a pcb trace failure is possible, but it should be visible under a magnifier. Also when using a multimeter for checking traces, realize there may be a conformal coating over them (but not the button landing pads). You need to use sharp meter probes to pierce the coating to test. You could try hunk of something conductive (like copper solder wick) and press onto the button in question spot to see if the ir functions trigger. This might indicate a problem with the carbon on the bottom of the silicone. Again, I could rummage around and fine one, maybe two...who knows, I have all sorts of parts :) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
Weirdly 2 of my SB Touch remotes recently developed this problem.. One has not working next and sleep, where other previous and back arrow. I had a look inside to do usual remote clean and possibly foil trick but it seems that pcb tracks started to fail... I checked with multimeter buzzer and there is no connection to chip form faulty buttons.. Don't think I'm skilled to fix that narrow track and doubt there is other magic fix. I bet your remote suffers from same problem if it's only particular button not working.. BTW I have checked on other devices to rule out infamous power supply failure 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote key not working
if you mean the little hand held remote similar to all of the other ones (tv, etc) laying around... often you can open the case and clean it. The buttons consist of interlaced copper traces on the pcb board, and the silicone pad (the button) has a carbon deposit on it (usually carbon, I think?). When pressed, the carbon shorts the interlaced traces, giving you a press. all sort of stuff can be happening when they don't work, dirt, spills, age (the copper can oxidize)try to use a pencil eraser on the copper pad locations to buff them up a bit, then basically wash the silicone pad (carefully where the carbon is). Also, take a look at the case that the buttons protrude through and make sure they aren't gunked up which might cause a button to stick. I have had other remotes that "don't work" where I discovered a button was stuck, preventing everything from working If all of that fails, I might have one somewhere I can send to you, not sure, I'd have to look. Are they the same as the Radios? I really don't use them. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote key not working
Hoping Joe Muc or someone else knowledgeable might help me. I have a Touch remote that works except the Now Playing key which does not function(no response on Touch when using button). Tried the obvious, changing the batteries and trying it on another Touch. What are the correct troubleshooting/repair steps for this or is it just a dying remote. Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.1 - 1633378390 @ Mon Oct 4 23:28:51 CEST 2021 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.30.0 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Touch connected by Optical to Sabaj A4 amp and Energy bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
