Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-18 Thread atrocity


If you have any DTS and/or AC-3 tracks, be sure to NOT add ReplayGain
tags to them.



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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread RonM


Thanks all, especially GaryM. That's exactly what I wanted.

Since in my post-surgery segregation I don't have access to my main
networked computer, I'll have to have my music server do the heavy
lifting. It's a little FitPC-3, and a little underpowered. Could take a
while. 

R.



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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread RonM


Thanks all, especially GaryM. That's exactly what I needed.

Since in my post-surgery segregation I don't have access to my networked
main computer, I'll have to run the process on my little FITPC-3, the
dedicated music server. Might take longer. 

Ron



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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread garym


slartibartfast wrote: 
> In a multi album playlist, i.e. a playlist containing complete albums
> wouldn't smart gain use album gain for each album?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Yes, it would, assuming the albums are in order (i.e., all tracks from
album #1, then all tracks from album #2).  If the album tracks are mixed
(not ordered by album), then it would use TRACK gain.



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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread slartibartfast


Fahzz wrote: 
> Old question and answer on this:
> 
> Originally Posted by Fahzz 
> 
> How do you apply Track AND Album tags using Foobar?
> 
> Which tag would smart gain read in a multi album playlist?
> 
> Thanks!
> As Stig's post above - Foobar 2000 > ReplayGain -> Scan as albums (by
> tags). It takes ~10 seconds per album on my PC.
> 
> In a multi album playlist smart gain would read "Track gain" tags.
> 
> I couldn't do without it!In a multi album playlist, i.e. a playlist 
> containing complete albums
wouldn't smart gain use album gain for each album?

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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread Fahzz


Old question and answer on this:

Originally Posted by Fahzz 

How do you apply Track AND Album tags using Foobar?

Which tag would smart gain read in a multi album playlist?

Thanks!
As Stig's post above - Foobar 2000 > ReplayGain -> Scan as albums (by
tags). It takes ~10 seconds per album on my PC.

In a multi album playlist smart gain would read "Track gain" tags.

I couldn't do without it!



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Re: [slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread garym


1. What are the best tools for implementing RG? I have and have used
Foobar and dBpoweramp for other purposes.

I use dbpoweramp when ripping (and automatically add RG album and track
tags when ripping with the RG DSP).  If I need to add/change RG tags
after ripping (purchased downloaded files, or when I have a double album
that I rip, but want both CDs to be treated as one album), I use
foobar2000 (no particular reason, I could use "convert to:  RG utility
codec to do the same thing).  Can't recall, but in foobar2000, you may
need to download and install the foobar2000 component for RG.

I use the option of track and album, with the method set to EBU R128,
and LUFS target volume = -18.  This is the dbpoweramp setting (advanced
settings in RG DSP).  In foobar2000, this is the default.

2. What is the general procedure for adding RG tags to files? 

a. Load up all your files in foobar2000, select all, then right click,
then select "scan as albums (by tags)" and let her rip.
b. in dbpoweramp, with batch converter, select your top level music
folder, so that all your files are selected, then "Convert", then select
Replay Gain utility codec from the dropdown list on the right (*not*
Replay Gain (apply), as that is not a tag and changes your audio
itself).  Then "run" to have it add the RG tags.

3. How is reading RG tags implemented in LMS? That is, how do I turn on
RG in LMS?

In LMS > Settings > Player > Audio, toward the bottom look for "volume
adjustment replay gain".  I choose "smart gain" as this uses RG ALBUM
GAIN value if playing tracks from an entire album, but RG TRACK GAIN, if
playing a playlist of tracks from *different* albums.

4. I'd like to implement RG on both the collection and album bases. Is
this supported in LMS? 

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  But with both TRACK GAIN and ALBUM
GAIN tags in your files, you can have LMS play things to try to match
volume in every song in your collection or by ALBUM level.  See my
answer to #3 above.

5. In the case of playlists within LMS, my assumption is that the
collection-wide RG tags are used, rather than treating the playlist as
an album. The latter would be good if it's something LMS does.

No, it's the former. LMS will use TRACK GAIN RG tags for playlists
(assuming songs in playlist are from different albums).

6. Will implementing RG across multiple formats work within a single
collection,using SB devices as players? I have a mix of flac, mp3, m4a
and wma (lossless) files. I'm most concerned about the m4a and wma
files. I don't want to have to convert my legacy wma files to flac, too
much trouble.

Yes, no problem at all. Just add ALBUM and TRACK RG values to all your
files regardless of CODEC.

7. How long is it likely to take to process a whole bunch of files,
probably 40k or so?  

Several hours. Can't recall it's been so long since I did this in a
batch a decade ago.  

8. Anything else I should know?

Can't think of anything.  Have fun!  And let me know if you have any
questions.  And these are just metadata tag fields.  They can't mess up
your audio.



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[slim] ReplayGain questions

2020-07-15 Thread RonM


I'm in the midst of semi-isolation after knee surgery, in my comfortable
basement, now officially designated a man-cave. I've been listening to
music, including albums and playlists, from my extensive collection.
I've been getting annoyed at the differing volume levels, and have
decided to implement ReplayGain across the collection. I have several
questions which I'm sure have been answered here a zillion times, but
I'm begging indulgence as I'm sure I'd have to do multiple searches to
find answers to them all. 

I'm a total noob when it comes to RG, even though I've been doing the SB
thing for many years.

My questions:

What are the best tools for implementing RG? I have and have used Foobar
and dBpoweramp for other purposes.

What is the general procedure for adding RG tags to files? 

How is reading RG tags implemented in LMS? That is, how do I turn on RG
in LMS?

I'd like to implement RG on both the collection and album bases. Is this
supported in LMS? 

In the case of playlists within LMS, my assumption is that the
collection-wide RG tags are used, rather than treating the playlist as
an album. The latter would be good if it's something LMS does.

Will implementing RG across multiple formats work within a single
collection,using SB devices as players? I have a mix of flac, mp3, m4a
and wma (lossless) files. I'm most concerned about the m4a and wma
files. I don't want to have to convert my legacy wma files to flac, too
much trouble.

How long is it likely to take to process a whole bunch of files,
probably 40k or so?

Anything else I should know?

Ron



LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3)
Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm
speakers
Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers
Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space
Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.)
Radio (WiFi) - home office
Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used),
Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4)
Touch x 1 - spare
UE Radio x 1 - spare
Boom x 1 - spare
Controller x 1 - Spare
Duet Receiver (backup)

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