Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
bpa;519597 Wrote: > Softsqueeze is suitable because I know JavaSound only support 44.1kHz > and 48kHz sampling same as SB3 whereas IIRC Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave > used to have problems with 48kHz. I cannot get squeezesoft to play 24/96 files. They play fine on my transporter but when I listen to them on my computer I just get static. What should I be checking to see why this isn't working? -- dminches Modwright Platinum Signature Truth modified Transporter> Modwright SWL 9.0 SE> Aragon 8008BB> Vandersteen 3A Sigs w/ Vandersteen WQ (2 channel system) dminches's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Most fascinating is that server notes that the player fails as you can see it on the progress bar in the web-UI that nothing happens. Obviously there is a lack off useful debugg info in the loggs as this can not happen normally :) But if you play a working file you can see in the log when the file starts to stream I think , I tried yesterday and got more "things" happening than your log snippet. Good luck enjoying the Hires files :) Note that 44.1 and 88.2 are multiples of each other 96k and 88.2 are not. It can be some dark art involved in sample rate converting here, maybe you lose something in the process. Maybe you should get a Touch when they arrive, you can not have to many squeezeboxes, digital out is said to be very good on it. -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
OK, I downloaded and installed Foobar2000. It indicated that Flac 1.2 was required so I downloaded and installed Flac 1.2 (Foobar failed on the conversions and I found that it was using an older flac.exe in my c:\windows\system32 fold so I replaced that with the new one from program files\flac and Foobar successfully converted a 96/24 flac file to 88/24 flac file. I fudged the tag data with Monkey Media then scanned it into SBS. The stock SB3 played it no problem. I then switched to the Bolder SB2 and it played the file too. So, we seem to have confirmation of Mnyb's assessment that the Bolder modded SB2 removes the 48kHz crystal and cannot play 48/96/192kHz sampling rates. All this testing has been done simply playing the track in the SBS Web Control window and making sure that the track counter keeps incrementing throughout the track. I haven't yet turned on the amps for fear of sending spurious noise through the speakers. I will now listen to the 96/24 flac file through the stock SB3 via my headphone amp :-) -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Well guys, I've just hooked up the stock SB3 wirelessly, changed no settings at all in SBS, queued up the 96/24 flac album and .. it plays! So, it seems Mnyb was correct, the Bolder mods dramatically improve playback sound quality but remove the capability to play 96/24 files and presumably 192/24 files too. I'll check to see if my Media Monkey enables me to convert a 96/24 to 88.2/24, otherwise I'll grab a program that does and then try 88.2/24 flac files and 176.4/24 files if possible too. Will keep you updated. Thanks again for the help. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
You only need a 48kHz file to test that. You don't have to buy stuff use software like foobar2000 or audacity to make a set of new files from a 24/96 file . There is a lot of of software out there that can convert files. It can be hard to actually find a 24/48 file I have some but when your searching for em.. Testing 24/48 will be particulary interesting this should be a native format no transcoding involved, so this should work with any server version. -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Mnyb/Phil/bpa, Thanks heaps for all the suggestions. I have a nasty feeling that mnyb may be onto something with the 48kHz crystal. I do recall Wayne (Bolder) advising that the mods may impact on the ability of the SB2 to play (some) radio stations but I'm almost certain he said nothing about it impacting on the ability to play high res files. However, this was all about 4 years back and high res files weren't really even on the horizon. I do have a stock SB3 in my headphone system. I will hook it up to SBS 7.4.2 tonight and see if it will play the 24/96 flac file. This might give us a quick answer. Unfortunately, I don't have a 24/88.2 file to try on the SB2. If the 96/24 flac file plays fine on the SB3, perhaps I'll buy/download an 88.2/24 flac file to try on the SB2. On the other hand, if the SB3 won't play the 24/96 either, I'll start working through your various suggestions above. Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Mnyb;519593 Wrote: > > Edit: softsqueeze good idea it does not support hirez so it also needs > transcoding , rigth Softsqueeze is suitable because I know JavaSound only support 44.1kHz and 48kHz sampling same as SB3 whereas IIRC Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave used to have problems with 48kHz. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
bpa;519583 Wrote: > You could try using softsqueeze as a player - that would exclude the > "Bolder" possibility. > > > > Before commenting on log messages, I found it was best to compare > against a working example on your own systems. The process of matching > filetypes can throw up one or two of those "capability" messages so they > don'tnecessarily point to the problem. You are quite correct I see this on my working setup ! we must have the whole log, these messages are normal then. In this case it's whats not there that counts, he has debugging on, but on my setup "things" happen in my log that is completely missing from the OP's log ! aha Another 0.001% possibility, is there a custom-convert.conf file on the system would not that one been removed by the clean install ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
You could try using softsqueeze as a player - that would exclude the "Bolder" possibility. > > > [00:43:10.4175] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 > (375) Rejecting - because required capability T not supported: > > [00:43:10.4095] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 > (375) Rejecting - because required capability D not supported: > > Before commenting on log messages, I found it was best to compare against a working example on your own systems. The process of matching filetypes can throw up one or two of those "capability" messages so they don'tnecessarily point to the problem. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Ok It would be a good idea to check if the players macaddress as reported by squeezeboxserver corresponds to whats on the label under the player. and also verify the firmware version on the player it should be 130 . either you have set it to auto update or you been prompted to hold "brigthness" on the ir -remote to upgrade to new firmware ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Ok next really stupid Q sorry , is it really an SB2 ? check in the web-UI settings >information page, and there you have your players lined up. To the right of the player name you have some info. Example my own SB3 looks like this Player Model: Squeezebox Classic Firmware: 130 Player IP Address: 192.168.1.2 Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:06:42:42 Wireless Signal Strength: 88% An SB2 should look the same SB3/2 classic is the "same" different package Note that I'm on 7.5 it can be named SB3 or SB2 instead of classic About "TranscodingHelper.pm" Capabilities: # T - can seek to a start time offset # D - can downsample His log snip had this [00:43:10.4175] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 (375) Rejecting - because required capability T not supported: [00:43:10.4095] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 (375) Rejecting - because required capability D not supported: But lets wait for better logs, then maybe somebody with real knowledge (not me can have a peek ) -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Mnyb;519551 Wrote: > But it still does not explain his server.log the server does not now > that, so it will act weird in another way ? silence garbled sound wrong > speed ? > > His server log implies it's borks long before any stream is leaving the > server ? > > If it is indeed the 48 crystal (i don't know) then those multiples wont > work, that still leaves 44.1kHz and 88.2kHz and 176.4kHz to play with Agreed. I'd expect silence. Can't tell enough from the server log without a full debug session - hopefully we will get one of those tonight - our friend is in Australia I believe. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Phil Leigh;519543 Wrote: > Oh brilliant, Mnyb - if the "48kHz" crystal was ripped out you can kiss > goodbye to 24/96 playback! > > Well spotted/Googled! But it still does not explain his server.log the server does not now that, so it will act weird in another way ? silence garbled sound wrong speed ? His server log implies it's borks long before any stream is leaving the server ? If it is indeed the 48 crystal (i don't know) then those multiples wont work, that still leaves 44.1kHz and 88.2kHz and 176.4kHz to play with -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Mnyb;519518 Wrote: > "Bolder modded SB2" what is that ? does it have all clock crystals > intact ? have you tried all sample rates > > 24bit 44.1kHz file and a 24 bit 48kHz file > and one 24bit 88.2kHz and finally a 24bit 96kHz > > Some boulder mods > > "Remove the 12.28MHz crystal oscillator (optional)" > according my immense google skills ;) > > what happens if you do that ? Oh brilliant, Mnyb - if the "48kHz" crystal was ripped out you can kiss goodbye to 24/96 playback! Well spotted/Googled! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
"Bolder modded SB2" what is that ? does it have all clock crystals intact ? have you tried all sample rates 24bit 44.1kHz file and a 24 bit 48kHz file and one 24bit 88.2kHz and finally a 24bit 96kHz Some boulder mods "Remove the 12.28MHz crystal oscillator (optional)" according my immense google skills ;) what happens if you do that ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
DSK;519445 Wrote: > So, after a complete uninstall and manual cleanup of all SlimServer, > SqueezeCentre and SqueezeBox directories and files, a fresh SBS 7.4.2 > installation with all file types/decoders left as defaults ... 7.4.2 > fails to play/downsample 96/24 flac files. > > The only differences between this stock setup and that of many other > users is that I do not enable iTunes or MP3 or Lame, or activate bit > rate limiting, and my PlugIns folder is empty. I presume that none of > these things have anything to do with playback of flac files (high res > or otherwise). > Neither do I - these should make no difference to your problem. DSK;519445 Wrote: > > Unless someone can suggest something else to try or wants me to attach > any of the log files etc, it seems to me that SBS is incapable of > playing/downsampling 96/24 flac files? > > I'd really like to make this work. > > Any more ideas? SBS is perfectly capable of playing 24.96 files or 176.4 or 192 for that matter (I have plenty). It's something wrong with your setup - let's see if we can fix it. Please set the player.source logging option to DEBUG and post another log file Cheers Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
And now to the really stupid questions :-/ hang on. are you sure you have an SB2 not an SB1 ? web-UI > settings > info page what does it report as a connected player. Does the reported mac address on the info page comply with one seen on the sticker at the bottom of the player ? Try to do a Xilink reset of the player ? a long shot but it only takes a minute to do. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_Reset_commands http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_Reset_commands#Reset_Audio_Hardware_.28aka_Xilinx_Reset.29 -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
So, after a complete uninstall and manual cleanup of all SlimServer, SqueezeCentre and SqueezeBox directories and files, a fresh SBS 7.4.2 installation with all file types/decoders left as defaults ... 7.4.2 fails to play/downsample 96/24 flac files. The only differences between this stock setup and that of many other users is that I do not enable iTunes or MP3 or Lame (which I assume have nothing to do with playback of flac files) and that my PlugIns folder is empty. Unless someone can suggest something else to try or wants me to attach any of the log files etc, it seems to me that SBS is incapable of playing/downsampling 96/24 flac files? I'd really like to make this work. Any more ideas? -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
After the Cleanup then the uninstall (I responded YES to delete old prefs, caches etc) then the fresh install, I went into the Information tab of the Control Panel and scrolled down over the file locations of the various file types. Some of them were correctly pointing to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox but some were pointing to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SqueezeCentre It seems that the Cleanup, uninstall etc etc did not remove this directory (not really surprising) but somehow the fresh install pointed some stuff to this old directory. When I looked at the date/time on the files in this old directory, some had been updated since the fresh install. I deleted the whole SqueezeCentre directory, uninstalled 7.4.2 again, ensured that ALL SqueezeCentre, SlimServer, SqueezeBox directories were gone from Program Files and from Documents & Settings, then reinstalled 7.4.2 again. I left all of the FILE TYPES info as defaults again. I checked the Information tab on the Control Panel again and verified that ALL files were now correctly pointed to the SqueezeBox folder. Opened Web Control and played a regular FLAC file - fine. Tried the 96/24 FLAC file - SAME PROBLEM !! Aahhh!! -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
OK, well I just did a full uninstall, checked for other directories (found a Slimserver folder and a SqueezeCentre folder but both were empty). Checked the files in c:\program files\squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread. They include: alac.exe cygwin1.dll faad.exe flac.exe grant.exe mac.exe mov123.exe mppdec.exe mysqld.exe socketwrapper.exe soz.exe wmadec.exe wvunpack.exe All are dated 21/02/2010. Exactly the same problem exists. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Can you double check that these executables are in the correct place? squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread flac.exe sox.exe Note: flac.exe is NOT normally used when playing flac files natively - only when transcoding via SOX! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
DSK;519350 Wrote: > I looked before upgrading to SqueezeBox Server 7.4.1 and it said I was > on SqueezeCentre 7.4 (dated Feb '09)... I didn't write down the release > number. > > When I get home tonight I'll jot down all my settings then run the > cleanup to see if it makes any difference ... can't hurt I guess > but I'm quite doubtful that it will help this issue as it seems to be a > decoding problem and my decoding option selections have not changed in a > year. > > At least once I have written down all the setup options it is easy to > do a full uninstall and clean install. > > The FILE TYPES page really needs some help/explanation attached to it > as it is not intuitive at all. IF you are running on an XP server the default file types and convert.conf should be left alone and SOX will automatically take care of any hi-res files I've never had to do an uninstall - usually a re-install takes care of everything. 7.4.2 is more stable than 7.4.1 IMO. Running the "Clean Cache" is very safe - it just requires a full rescan to rebuild your music database. Cleaning Preferences is also safe... but it will rerquire you to go through and reset your preferred settings. There are several cases where the server.prefs file has been corrupted and the only way to fix things is to delete it and r-enter your settings. This is quite rare thankfully. I haven't seen a convert.conf corruption myself. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
DSK;519350 Wrote: > I looked before upgrading to SqueezeBox Server 7.4.1 and it said I was > on SqueezeCentre 7.4 (dated Feb '09)... I didn't write down the release > number. > > When I get home tonight I'll jot down all my settings then run the > cleanup to see if it makes any difference ... can't hurt I guess > but I'm quite doubtful that it will help this issue as it seems to be a > decoding problem and my decoding option selections have not changed in a > year. > > At least once I have written down all the setup options it is easy to > do a full uninstall and clean install. > > The FILE TYPES page really needs some help/explanation attached to it > as it is not intuitive at all. Our vague thinking here is that an old convert.conf or similar made for the 7.3 series may be incompletely migrated to the 7.4 world or corrupted ? there is differences between some versions of 7.3 and 7.4 regarding hirez transcode and some other things to. The risk with keeping old settings when migrating is that the functionality has changed so the old setting makes no sense anymore . -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
I looked before upgrading to SqueezeBox Server 7.4.1 and it said I was on SqueezeCentre 7.4 (dated Feb '09)... I didn't write down the release number. When I get home tonight I'll jot down all my settings then run the cleanup to see if it makes any difference ... can't hurt I guess but I'm quite doubtful that it will help this issue as it seems to be a decoding problem and my decoding option selections have not changed in a year. At least once I have written down all the setup options it is easy to do a full uninstall and clean install. The FILE TYPES page really needs some help/explanation attached to it as it is not intuitive at all. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
DSK;519299 Wrote: > Thanks Phil. > > I certainly haven't edited any files and I haven't even changed any > settings/preferences via the GUI for quite some months. I try to keep > the system completely stable as the Bolder modded SB2 is my primary > source in the big rig. I'm reluctant to install pre-release software for > just this reason. > > During the 7.4.1 installation I answered NO to the prompt to clean up > preference files as it gave no explanation as to what that was going to > do and I didn't want to lose my settings for handling of multi CD > albums, composer etc etc. > > I notice that in the SqueezeBox Server Control Panel there is a Run > Cleanup option to 'delete preference files' and 'clean cache folder, > including music database, artwork cache etc'. Would running this have > any effect on my situation? > > If I end up having to install a pre-release version, am I better to > uninstall 7.4.1 before installing the newer version? These clean up options migth do it as many experienced problems upgrading 7.3 to 7.4 This will probably give almost the same result as a completely clean install, maybe you should do a completely clean install ? Note that it will be some work to restore all settings and scan the files again, take notes over the most important stuff. Which version of 7.3 where you running ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
I just bit the bullet and installed 7.4.2 (over the top of 7.4.1). No difference... when I try to play the high res FLAC file from the Web ControlUI, the track counter counts up to 0:04 then drops back to 0:02 and counts up to 0:06 then drops back to 0:02 then counts up to 0:07 then drops back to 0:02 then counts up to 0:03 then drops back etc etc etc Have to run out the door to work .. will try again later... -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Thanks Phil. I certainly haven't edited any files and I haven't even changed any settings/preferences via the GUI for quite some months. I try to keep the system completely stable as the Bolder modded SB2 is my primary source in the big rig. I'm reluctant to install pre-release software for just this reason. During the 7.4.1 installation I answered NO to the prompt to clean up preference files as it gave no explanation as to what that was going to do and I didn't want to lose my settings for handling of multi CD albums, composer etc etc. I notice that in the SqueezeBox Server Control Panel there is a Run Cleanup option to 'delete preference files' and 'clean cache folder, including music database, artwork cache etc'. Would running this have any effect on my situation? If I end up having to install a pre-release version, am I better to uninstall 7.4.1 before installing the newer version? -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
The problem you are seeing is symptomatic of a corrupted or incorrectly edited convert.conf or custom_convert.file (or possibly a corrupted server.prefs file) You should download and install the latest 7.4.2 nightly and try again. If it still doen't work, post another log with audio stream debugging enabed. regards Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Mnyb;519195 Wrote: > Ok this is beyond me now how is it setup in settings file formats ? > You should return to the default settings to be sure. > > like this for example: > > > Code: > > > > FLACFLAC Native > MP3 flac/lame (or grey as disabled) > PCM flac > > WAV FLAC Sox > MP3 Lame (or grey as disabled) > PCM Native > > > > Yes, EXACTLY like your example above. The only 'reset' option I can see is 'Reset Player Preferences' under the Basic settings but I haven't used this as I'm concerned it will reset stuff other than decoders. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
There was a reason I went to the 7.4.2 nightly's after also trying 24/96 or 24/88.1 hi-rez files with 7.4.1. Can't remember why I did this, but they play back fine with 7.4.2 - perhaps that's worth a shot? Cheers! Allan -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Ok this is beyond me now how is it setup in settings file formats ? You should return to the default settings to be sure. like this for example: Code: FLAC FLAC Native MP3 flac/lame (or grey as disabled) PCM flac WAV FLAC Sox MP3 Lame (or grey as disabled) PCM Native -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Yes, FLAC is installed. All my library is FLAC (from redbook rips using EAC with FLAC compresion integrated) No, I don't use bit rate limiting. There's stack of stuff in the server.log but this seems to be the key part ... [00:43:10.3924] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (284) params: index => 1 seekdata => undef [00:43:10.3929] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stop (607) Song queue is now 0 [00:43:10.3983] Slim::Player::SongStreamController::DESTROY (45) DESTROY(Slim::Player::SongStreamController=HASH(0x51d24a4)) live=0 [00:43:10.3985] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState () new playing state STOPPED [00:43:10.3987] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2235) new streaming state IDLE [00:43:10.4015] Slim::Player::Song::new (107) index 1 -> file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/02%20-%20Enough%20for%20Two.flac [00:43:10.4018] Slim::Player::Song::new (149) live=2 [00:43:10.4021] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2235) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [00:43:10.4023] Slim::Player::Song::DESTROY (159) DESTROY(Slim::Player::Song=ARRAY(0x7af1c3c)) live=1: index=0, url=file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/01%20-%20It%20s%20All%20Good.flac [00:43:10.4026] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (228) file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/02%20-%20Enough%20for%20Two.flac [00:43:10.4028] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (733) 00:04:20:05:d0:44: nextTrack will be index 1 [00:43:10.4030] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (271) 00:04:20:05:d0:44: NextTrackReady in STOPPED-TRACKWAIT -> Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream [00:43:10.4033] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1160) Song queue is now 1 [00:43:10.4035] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1163) 00:04:20:05:d0:44: preparing to stream song index 1 [00:43:10.4037] Slim::Player::Song::open (362) file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/02%20-%20Enough%20for%20Two.flac [00:43:10.4044] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled [00:43:10.4046] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats... [00:43:10.4048] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4050] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4052] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4054] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4056] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44 [00:43:10.4058] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44 [00:43:10.4060] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-squeezebox2-* [00:43:10.4062] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-*-* [00:43:10.4064] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44 [00:43:10.4066] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44 [00:43:10.4067] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-squeezebox2-* [00:43:10.4069] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-*-* [00:43:10.4071] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44 [00:43:10.4073] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44 [00:43:10.4075] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-squeezebox2-* [00:43:10.4077] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4079] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled [00:43:10.4081] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats... [00:43:10.4083] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4085] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4087] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4089] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-* [00:43:10.4091] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (240) enabled [00:43:10.4093] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Found command: - [00:43:10.4095] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (375) Rejecting - because required capability D not supported: [00:43:10.4097] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
That should be hardware enough to do it :) twice as fast as my server. That flc fault message is mysterious ? Well how to figure if flac is installed ? should it not be by default these days ? I'm not sure where it is on windows but the binaries is in the bin folder Maybe squeezeboxserver/Bin/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread/ ? Or similar ? here you should have: alac.exe cygwin1.dll faad.exe flac.exe grant.exe mac.exe mov123.exe mppdec.exe mysqld.exe socketwrapper.exe sox.exe wmadec.exe wvunpack.exe If get your hands on lame you should see it here too. Did you try with the default settings in filetype and no bitrate limiting for the player as you can play other flac files 16/44.1 and 24/48 ? you probably don't use bit rate limiting (requires lame)? If you "ctrl alt del" when playing a 24/96 file you should see a running sox and flac process -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
C2D 2.6ghz Corsair 2gb 1333MHZ DDR2 WD Raptor 36GB 10k RPM system HDD Seagate 200GB 7500 RPM data HDD WD MyBook 500GB USB HDD music library Windows XP SP3 Will check the log. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
it should work fine with the default settings you don't have to do anything at all, the servers knows if a Player only supports 24/48 and take the appropriate steps and runs SOX and FLAC. That mp3 is greyd out probably means that lame is not installed on the system As you can set PCM=flac probably means that FLAC is installed on your system ? Ok What is the OS and Hardware ? The SOX exe is not available for all kinds of hardware and OS are you on a NAS. The transcoding process is pretty CPU intesnsive the machine should have an x86 CPU with floating point math >=1.2GHz What does the server.log says when you try to start the track ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
Hi, I haven't been to these forums for a long time. Just been doing some searching but can't find anything that tells me definitively how to enable the auto downsampling of high res 96/24 or 88/24 FLAC files to 48/24 or 44/24 to play on my SB2. Yesterday I upgraded from SqueezeCentre 7.4 (Feb '09) to the latest released SqueezeBox Server 7.4.1 (Oct '09) and updated firmware from 124 to 130. I downloaded a 96/24 album in FLAC from Linn Records. It was scanned into the database OK and plays fine through the PC speakers via Media Monkey, but when I try to play it using the SqueezeBox Server Web Control interface the track seems to try to start playing but the time counter only gets to 1 or 2 then drops back to 0 or 1 and keeps repeating that process. Are there any steps I have to do before it works? I could find no instructions in SqueezeBox Server on this. The only comment I could find seemed to indicate that it should just work automatically using SOX which is contained within SqueezeBox Server. Many thanks for any help. -- DSK DSK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
