[slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread Rick B .

I'm a regular vistor to this forum and I seem to have lost my way with
all of the recent developments. Can someone lay out where we are now
compared to, say, 6 months ago?

What I mean is I'm trying to understand how the new developments relate
to each other. I followed the Jive developements - then Duet was
announced, which I thought was a new name for Jive - but maybe it
isn't? 

I also see terms like SC, slimsqueezer, slim center, etc. and I'm
confused. I'm guessing others might be, too. Thanks.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread radish

SqueezeCenter (SC) is the new name for SlimServer (SS) from version 7.0
onwards.

Sqeezebox Controller is the new remote control based on the Jive
software platform which has been in discussion for some time.

Squeezebox Receiver is the new screen-less Squeezebox.

Duet is a bundle package including one Controller and one Receiver.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread Skunk

You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox
Receiver) used here and there. 

Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to
avoid some confusion.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread Rick B .

Thanks for the replies - very helpful. 

One question - Is there a separate Jive Remote under development that
is still forthcoming or is it in fact already here as the Squeezebox
Controller?


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread kdf

On 9-Jan-08, at 7:01 AM, Rick B. wrote:


 Thanks for the replies - very helpful.

 One question - Is there a separate Jive Remote under development  
 that
 is still forthcoming or is it in fact already here as the Squeezebox
 Controller?

The jive remote is the controller.  It's the same one that's been  
talked about in the forum for some time, but it is likely not the only  
controller in the roadmap.
Those of us on the outside can only guess on hardware.

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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread SuperQ

Skunk;256403 Wrote: 
 You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox
 Receiver) used here and there. 
 
 Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet forum to
 avoid some confusion.

I wouldn't rename the forum, as it is a development forum for the Jive
software.  I'd like to keep it free of the random support requests.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread dean blackketter

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:57 AM, SuperQ wrote:


 Skunk;256403 Wrote:
 You'll also see SBC (Squeezebox Controller) and SBR (Squeezebox
 Receiver) used here and there.

 Maybe the Jive forum should be renamed the Controller or Duet  
 forum to
 avoid some confusion.

 I wouldn't rename the forum, as it is a development forum for the Jive
 software.  I'd like to keep it free of the random support requests.
To further confuse things, we'll be renaming the Jive software to  
SqueezeOS soon (I mentioned this in another post...)

So the new product names are:

SqueezeCenter 7 (aka SC7, formerly SlimServer)

SqueezeNetwork (aka SN)

Squeezebox Controller (aka SBC, formerly Jive Remote)

Squeezebox Receiver (aka SBR, formerly Ray)

SqueezeNetwork (aka SN)

SqueezeOS (formerly Jive software)

Squeezebox (aka SB3 aka Squeezebox Classic aka Squeezebox v3 )

Transporter (aka TR)

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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread gerph

dean blackketter;256431 Wrote: 
 On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:57 AM, SuperQ wrote:
 [color=blue]
 To further confuse things, we'll be renaming the Jive software to
 SqueezeOS soon (I mentioned this in another post...)
 

Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is
Linux and it's just an application on top of that.


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread snarlydwarf

gerph;256491 Wrote: 
 Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is
 Linux and it's just an application on top of that.

Depends on how you define OS.

The kernel is Linux.  The OS is often more than the kernel (hence why
the FSF says it is GNU/Linux since things like gcc, libc, bash, cat,
passwd, etc are FSF projects).

If the OS includes the presentation layer, ie, the UI (Microsoft
certainly argues this as part of why IE is part of the OS), then it
would be fair to call it SqueezeOS.

Defining OS is part of the problem...  I certainly don't believe it is
just the kernel.  That has never been true, be it CP/M or TOPS-10, the
kernel is just part of the OS... and if the os includes commmand line
stuff like cat and ls, then why wouldn't a GUI be included as part of
the OS as well when it is provided.  (It may be an optional part on
most Unix systems, but it is a mandatory component on Windows.)


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread dean blackketter

On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:40 AM, aubuti wrote:


 gerph;256491 Wrote:
 Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is
 Linux and it's just an application on top of that.
 Well, Dean did say that they were doing it to further confuse
 things


That's our strategy and we're sticking to it.  :)
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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread aubuti

gerph;256491 Wrote: 
 Um... Maybe I'm missing something, but... it's not an OS. The OS is
 Linux and it's just an application on top of that.
Well, Dean did say that they were doing it to further confuse
things


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Re: [slim] Slimserver, Slimcenter, Duet, Jive - I'm confused!

2008-01-09 Thread amcluesent

SqueezeCenter 7 (aka SC7, formerly SlimServer)

SqueezeCentre in the mother country :)


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