Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-30 Thread lrossouw

You can do this pretty much with any small form factor pc.  You could
slap together a small silent PC with rapsberry pi with digital audio out
via USB sound for probably $100.  You could run linux and
squeezeslave/squeezeplay on it and then you have a squeezebox with all
the regular offline music capabilities.  No screen, but you could run it
to your TV and that should give you a nice big screen.  Use an app on
your phone for a remote though.



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-30 Thread foxesden

jean2 wrote: 
 Does it have the standard SB features, such as gapless, replay-gain,
 sync and remote SB control ? Ideally, you would want a SqueezePlay port
 for the VortexBox to make sure everything is properly supported. Bonus
 points if you can use the VortexBox itself as a controller.
 
 Jean

There are several of us using Vortexbox with squeezeplay installed and
this does include all the above features, except for the controller,
i.e. like a screenless touch. The Vortexbox is normally run headless
(without a screen) so you can use anything with a browser or Ipad touch
etc.

It may be possible to get it working with a touchscreen attached, but I
am not going to worry about that.

Andrew is talking about the Vortexbox player which gives you hires, but
not gapless, no syncing and no spotify. I have also tried softsqueeze
install which does all bar hires.

There are instructions for installing squeezeplay over at vortexbog.org
forum; although there is no out of the box installyet

Personally I think one of the reasons why Logitech is letting the touch
go is because squeezeplay is the tweakers player. The touch is just a
hardware implementation of it, and I bet they don't make much per unit.



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-30 Thread cliffpatte

becseattle wrote: 
 Took a quick look at the new Radio, and it looks to have only an
 minijack in and no digital out.  Will there really be nothing to take
 the place of a SB with a digital out and optical/coax inputs?

good question

Squeezebox's audio out is not audiophile quality, hence products like
the SB+ [third party] and Transporter
Makes no sense to have a network player without capability to hook into
a DAC.



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-30 Thread Triode

lrossouw wrote: 
 You can do this pretty much with any small form factor pc.  You could
 slap together a small silent PC with rapsberry pi with digital audio out
 via USB sound for probably $100.  You could run linux and
 squeezeslave/squeezeplay on it and then you have a squeezebox with all
 the regular offline music capabilities.  No screen, but you could run it
 to your TV and that should give you a nice big screen.  Use an app on
 your phone for a remote though.

I actually think that for audiophile playback this is the way to go.  We
should leave the audio engineering to an external usb based dac and keep
the streamer to a low power linux platform which runs squeezeplay (or
cut down version of it or something similar...)  This with LMS + a
separate control app would keep the power of LMS + the audiophile
capabilities of high bitrate and external dac support.  As we see with
Sonos - other streamers don't put the effort into crystal dual clocks
for driving spdif outs at low jitter for all audio rate - this requires
dedicated hardware.  We should perhaps leave this to the dac
manufactures and just looks to a streamer which has a usbout.



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-30 Thread JohnSwenson

Triode wrote: 
 I actually think that for audiophile playback this is the way to go.  We
 should leave the audio engineering to an external usb based dac and keep
 the streamer to a low power linux platform which runs squeezeplay (or
 cut down version of it or something similar...)  This with LMS + a
 separate control app would keep the power of LMS + the audiophile
 capabilities of high bitrate and external dac support.  As we see with
 Sonos - other streamers don't put the effort into crystal dual clocks
 for driving spdif outs at low jitter for all audio rate - this requires
 dedicated hardware.  We should perhaps leave this to the dac
 manufactures and just looks to a streamer which has a usbout.

As you well know the fun part is getting the small embedded linux with
the proper ALSA so it can properly run UAC2 async DACs. Fortunately Time
itself will tend to fix that. 

John S.



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[slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-29 Thread becseattle

Took a quick look at the new Radio, and it looks to have only an
minijack in and no digital out.  Will there really be nothing to take
the place of a SB with a digital out and optical/coax inputs?



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-29 Thread pippin

iPhone with a dock
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2012/08/14/ipeng-goes-audiophile/



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-29 Thread agillis

VortexBox also still has digital outputs and 24/192!



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Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....

2012-08-29 Thread jean2

agillis wrote: 
 VortexBox also still has digital outputs and 24/192!

Does it have the standard SB features, such as gapless, replay-gain,
sync and remote SB control ? Ideally, you would want a SqueezePlay port
for the VortexBox to make sure everything is properly supported. Bonus
points if you can use the VortexBox itself as a controller.

Jean



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