Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-10 Thread Jayrcee


Try using Denatured Alcohol.  It works better than Isopropyl.  I had a
Harmony remote that began to get sticky and Denatured worked much
better.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-06 Thread sachadog


Hi

Thanks for all the replies.

I can say that some of the items I have, that have gone "sticky" are not
touched on a daily basis.  Yes it is probably the product material used,
starting to break down.  The worst part of all of this is that the
stickiness attracts dust, hair or whatever, that is floating around in
everyones home.  It's the buildup of these items, that actually alerts
you to what has happened.  

Yes I have the hard shell type remotes as well, its just a couple of the
remotes that have become sticky.

I, in fact, usually control my Touch using Muso, which means I don't
even touch the Touch at all.  I also use Squeezer, installed on an
android tablet and an android mobile phone, so yes I have alternatives
to actually using the remotes.  I also have JRiver on a computer that
can also control devices.

It's just annoying that such quality items, no matter the make, all seem
to be suffering this problem and generally no one has come up with a
solution. In fact, it doesn't seem to get publicity either. We all seem
to have our own remedies, that work in each case.

Manufacturers don't normally offer advice on the subject.

Once again, thanks for all the response.  I will keep using Isopropyl
Alcohol until I can find a definitive alternative.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-02 Thread cliveb


Paul Webster wrote: 
> The Transporter came with the hard shiny plastic shell remote ... and
> that one is fine.
> It is the rounded remote that came with the SB1/2 (for me at least) that
> end up looking and feeling tacky.
Agreed. It's rubber-coated things that get sticky. My 14-year old SB2 is
now very sticky, but since I never touch it I've left it alone.

It's nothing to do with use. A quick Google suggests that it's due to
the vulcanisation of the rubber breaking down, so the rubber starts
turning back into its raw sticky state.

It's not just Squeezeboxes that are affected - anything with that
"soft-feel" rubber coating has the same problem. My Atomic ski helmet
got sticky and it took a long time and a lot of effort with isopropyl
alcohol to remove the coating.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-01 Thread Paul Webster


The Transporter came with the hard shiny plastic shell remote ... and
that one is fine.
It is the rounded remote that came with the SB1/2 (for me at least) that
end up looking and feeling tacky.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-01 Thread Fizbin


Do the remotes get sticky over time or sticky from increased use? My
Transporter remote isn't in the least bit sticky but I rarely use it.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-01 Thread bpa


cliveb wrote: 
> I can confirm that isopropyl alcohol does eventually remove the sticky
> rubber coating, but it takes a lot of effort and you need to keep at
> it.
> Persevere on a small section to start with to get an idea of how much
> elbow grease is required.

HG Sticker remover is an "goo be Gone" equivalent - and removes the
stickiness very easily no elbow grease - however it also removes the
text (e.g. numbers, sleep) on the remote.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-01 Thread cliveb


I can confirm that isopropyl alcohol does eventually remove the sticky
rubber coating, but it takes a lot of effort and you need to keep at
it.
Persevere on a small section to start with to get an idea of how much
elbow grease is required.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-01 Thread bpa


sachadog wrote: 
> The Touch isn't "dirty" from use, as it has stood in a purpose made HiFi
> stand and the rear has only been touched to connect the cables.  It only
> became apparent when I had to adjust my HiFi setup. I use the touch with
> a remote as much as possible, or I use my tablet or phone as remotes,
> because the Squeezebox remote is so sticky.  The front of the Touch is
> still perfect, as far as I can tell.

I checked my Touch - while most of the back is glossy plastic and is not
sticky,  at the bottom the small labelled separate section where the
cable/connectors go is sticky.  Not sure if you clean it whether the
labelling will also go.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-11-01 Thread sachadog


Hi,

Thank you for your replies.

The Touch isn't "dirty" from use, as it has stood in a purpose made HiFi
stand and the rear has only been touched to connect the cables.  It only
became apparent when I had to adjust my HiFi setup. I use the touch with
a remote as much as possible, or I use my tablet or phone as remotes,
because the Squeezebox remote is so sticky.  The front of the Touch is
still perfect, as far as I can tell.

I haven't heard of Goo Be Gone, I will follow that up.

Yes I have other "plastic" or man-made items that after a few years of
ownership have shown this problem. It's not confined to Squeezebox
items. 

Other manufacturing products have also shown this breakdown.

I owned headphones made by a very well known American company.  They
were noise cancelling.  Those headphones actually "melted" with the over
the head "protein leather" becoming almost liquid and the ear cups, on
the surface were in order, but where they attached to the earphone
speaker housing, had almost liquified and the substance had run onto and
into the small speakers, which couldn't be removed.  I contacted the
manufactureres, who weren't that interested.  They informed me I
couldn't replace the over-the-head section; the ear cups were
replaceable, but of course the "liquid" had affected the sound output,
making the earphones almost unusable.  I had to dispose of them. I would
point out, I had moved house at the time.  The headphones were stored in
their correct carrying case for a period of two months.  It was during
this time, the breakdown became apparent, when I went to use them
again.

I have a feeling that as time passes, more and more items that have
man-made finishes; i.e. plastics or "protein leather" will break down,
making perfectly good items, unusable.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-10-31 Thread MrC


I had no luck with alcohol.  So I resorted to a couple of rounds of Goo
Be Gone followed be cleaning that with Dawn and water.  It helped a fair
amount, but there is some tackiness remaining.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-10-31 Thread SuperQ


This is a common problem with a lot of natural rubber over-moldings.
Cleaning with Isopropyl alcohol usually does the trick, although it make
take a few rounds of cleaning.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-10-31 Thread bpa


Some of my remotes have the same issue and it is the same as one of my
Booms.  It was a surface treatment which over time breaks down. It the
same on a iPAL radio I have.

The rear of my Touch is plain hard shiny plastic - no surface treatment.
I suspect your Touch issue may just be "dirt". Since rear is single
part casing  - check surface between rubber feet on bottom (it is likely
to be in near-new condition & clean) to see if it is shiny/glossy - if
it is shiny/glossy - then carefully try some other domestic plastic
cleaner.



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Re: [slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-10-31 Thread chill


I haven't experienced this with the remotes, but it's a common problem
with the front panel and knob on the Boom.  I've had some success
over-painting those parts with a matt lacquer rubber paint, so if you
can dismantle the remotes sufficiently to isolate the sticky part it
might be worth a go.

Boom thread here:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107531-What-to-do-with-a-Boom-with-sticky-front-panel=932897=1#post932897



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[slim] Sticky Surface on Remote Controls And The Rear Of A Touch

2019-10-31 Thread sachadog


Hi,

I am looking for some inspiration here.

I have several Squeezbox Classics and a Touch and a Duet.  I have a
collection of remotes to go with them.

Those remotes, universally, now have a sticky surface around the keys. 
I have tried isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) without much success in
removing the sticky surface.

There appears to be a complete breakdown in the suface of the remotes,
in fact you can almost scrape the surface off with finger nails.

Yes, I know I can use my mobile phone, or Muso, or Squeezer, or Orange
Squeeze dependant on what I use to control the system, but it's a shame
the actual remotes are now becoming so sticky as to make them almost
useless.

Has anyone else had this problem and found a way of curing the
stickiness and of course the debris it attracts.  I have also noted the
rear of the Touch is going the same way.

Any suggestion would be of assistance, otherwise I will have to dispose
of the remotes, that actually still work, but are awful to use.  The
Touch is still in daily use and hopefully will stay that way!



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