RE: [slim] Building a house server?
If you are planning to use this as a proper server and run services such as file print, internet hosting, etc you would probably be better with Linux as this could handle it. Don't think you would get away with Windows 2003 mine sometime grinds to a halt and that is a P4 3.0Ghz with 1.5 Gb RAM. If people are downloading from the server then it can affect the slimserver stream. You may get away with more services running if you set up some QoS or you could try W2000 Server which is not so memory hungry. Regards, Carl Maskelyne PaperPak Systems IT Manager Mobile Telephone : 07971 659494 Attends website : www.attends.co.uk This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail may be subject to public disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Unless the information is legally exempt from disclosure, the confidentiality of this e-mail and your reply cannot be guaranteed. Emails sent from PaperPak that contain commercially sensitive data should not be disclosed to third parties that may benefit from this knowledge. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving PaperPak however the company will not be liable for any losses as a result of any viruses being passed on. -Original Message- From: Bob Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 14:07 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Building a house server? I run mine on a PIII 400 with 512M ram and a 250G drive. Runs Fedora Core. Talking with Orb on 18 Apr 2005 at 4:45 about [slim] Building a house server? we discussed: What do people recommend for a basic house server? I could get my hands on an old (very cheap) Pentium 3, 600 MHz, 256mb ram pc. I have a 200gb drive where my music is stored which would live in the house server. Would a machine of this (old) spec be good enough to cope with slimserver, file sharing and maybe a broadband connection in the future? What do people recommend as a OS? I have an old copy of windows 98 floating around but what about the free OS like BSD? Any tips appreciated. Thanks -- Orb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Robert Fish - [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bobfish.orgPGP available ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Building a house server?
Hmm, my experiences are to the contrary. My CPU is nowhere near as fast as yours - Athlon XP 1500+, and I have less memory (1.25Gb RAM), and I've never experienced problems, despite the fact that it's running as Domain Controller, serving DNS, DHCP, IIS and MySQL, as well as acting as fileserver for our home network. I routinely stream to work, and just ensure that IIS etc are sufficiently throttled to allow the stream enough room. I've never had a problem with either of my SB's on the LAN. Perhaps your problems are IO-related? I'm running hardware RAID-5, so multiple disc access isn't such a strain on the CPU. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2005 07:45 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: RE: [slim] Building a house server? If you are planning to use this as a proper server and run services such as file print, internet hosting, etc you would probably be better with Linux as this could handle it. Don't think you would get away with Windows 2003 mine sometime grinds to a halt and that is a P4 3.0Ghz with 1.5 Gb RAM. If people are downloading from the server then it can affect the slimserver stream. You may get away with more services running if you set up some QoS or you could try W2000 Server which is not so memory hungry. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
I run mine on a PIII 400 with 512M ram and a 250G drive. Runs Fedora Core. Talking with Orb on 18 Apr 2005 at 4:45 about [slim] Building a house server? we discussed: What do people recommend for a basic house server? I could get my hands on an old (very cheap) Pentium 3, 600 MHz, 256mb ram pc. I have a 200gb drive where my music is stored which would live in the house server. Would a machine of this (old) spec be good enough to cope with slimserver, file sharing and maybe a broadband connection in the future? What do people recommend as a OS? I have an old copy of windows 98 floating around but what about the free OS like BSD? Any tips appreciated. Thanks -- Orb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Robert Fish - [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bobfish.orgPGP available ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
I'm apparently in the minority, but I'm running Libranet GNU/Linux (a Debian distro) on a Pentium II (yes, that's Pentium Two). I did beef up the memory and put in a fat hard drive and it runs fine. The drop-outs I hear are usually wireless telephone vs. wireless network. As long as I connect to the server via the network to run the web interface it's fine. But running the web interface from the server terminal is SLOW. I'm only using .ogg and .mp3 files. I dunno how it would work with a lossless format. Any tips appreciated. Thanks -- Orb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:45:54 -0700, Orb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people recommend for a basic house server? I could get my hands on an old (very cheap) Pentium 3, 600 MHz, 256mb ram pc. I have a 200gb drive where my music is stored which would live in the house server. Would a machine of this (old) spec be good enough to cope with slimserver, file sharing and maybe a broadband connection in the future? I've been running a Via C3/800 (might be about as powerful as your PIII) for quite a while. No problem as SlimServer, fileserver, mailserver (3 users only), and dev webserver running Linux. Listening to a mp3 stream uses about 5% cpu, Real with AlienBBC (transcoding Real-wav-mp3) about 25%. There are people running SlimServer and Samba (fileserver) on a Buffalo Linkstation - at 250MHz! What do people recommend as a OS? I have an old copy of windows 98 floating around but what about the free OS like BSD? Forget Windows 98 if you can install something like BSD or Linux. The latter might be easier to handle as there are packages available (RPM). -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:45:54 -0700, Orb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people recommend for a basic house server? I could get my hands on an old (very cheap) Pentium 3, 600 MHz, 256mb ram pc. I have a 200gb drive where my music is stored which would live in the house server. This is more than I run my single SB1, my mail server and a caching DNS on. I'm running RH9 on a P2/450 Mhz w/256 MB (I think, not sure on the ram). An 80GB drive is about half full. I'm using Slimserver 5.4.1 now. I try to limit my rescans to after I go to bed. The only time I really have a problem is when the SpamAssassin daemon goes crazy and chews up the whole CPU. That happens from time to time and I don't know why. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
What do people recommend for a basic house server? I'm using an old notebook computer as our house server, because it has a very low power consumption (approx. 10 watts when the disk is powered down and slightly more when the SlimServer software is streaming data). Our house server currently is a Toshiba Portege 7020 notebook (made in 1998) with a 366 MHz Pentium II CPU, a 60 GB internal disk and a 100Mbit/s cardbus ethernet card. The system is running Fedora Core 1 and SlimServer 5.4.0. The server sits in a wall-mounted kitchen cabinet in our house's utility room together with the DSL router/switch and WLAN AP. This works fine, as the notebook computer generates almost no heat. We have been using this configuration for several months now and are quite happy with it. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
What do people recommend for a basic house server? i'm using an old Dell PIII 600 with 512MB RAM. i uninstalled win98 and put Mandrake 10 on it (i'm a linux newbie and had it running in about 30 minutes) installing slimserver from the RPM took another 15 minutes and then figuring out all the permissions and stuff took a couple of days and lots of help from this list. however, that was because none of the music is stored on this machine - it's all on 2 snap servers on the network. It's a solid performer - occasional dropouts but not enough to bother me. the machine doesn't really do anything other than server music although i've got apache (which never really gets hit)and an FTP server on it as well. you can buy machines like this on ebay for around 200 bucks i think. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 08:29 -0400, Jim Dibb wrote: The only time I really have a problem is when the SpamAssassin daemon goes crazy and chews up the whole CPU. That happens from time to time and I don't know why. How do you filter? My utility box that does everything - fetchmail pops, sends it through procmail procmail does all my filtering for lists etc. THEN if it hasn't been filtered to another list, it goes through SpamAssassin. I whitelist everyone in my address book. The result has been incredible - SpamAssassin is a lot nicer now, since it is used far far less. Box is a 1.6 GHz Duron (the low cache on that chip can really be felt, I'm not going to make that mistake again) It's running headless (no X11 sucking resources) - Fedora Rawhide. 512 MB RAM Two hard drives (ATA 100) services it runs: apache, vsftpd, sshd, slimserver, dovecot (imap server, how I read my mail on my main rig), postfix, bind (caching dns for lan), ntpd At night it mirrors several yum repositories. Anyway - after putting the SpamAssassin recipe at the end, the box is generally a LOT more responsive as all my mailing lists don't go through it anymore. Oh - and on topic, no problems with SlimServer feeding a SoftSqueeze client. Only using mp3 though, so that's not really testing it. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Building a house server?
Hi Michael, I'll look into my exact setup when I get home, but I believe the spamassassin problem is due to a bug of some kind. On a heavy day, I don't get more than 20 messages to my home email. I use gmail for the lists I'm on. But basically something pops them from verizon, then procmail, then spamd. I then pop them again to one of 2 WinXP boxes where they get read. I've never really put a lot of effort into this once I got it working reasonably (but not necessarily efficiently). But sometimes, with no reason that I've yet found, the spamd process will be running, consuming all CPU. And it doesn't stop. The only way to clear it is to kill it, or reboot the system (which is usually what I do to make sure everything gets started up again correctly). People I correspond with get whitelisted after they end up in the SPAM folder once. On 4/18/05, Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 08:29 -0400, Jim Dibb wrote: The only time I really have a problem is when the SpamAssassin daemon goes crazy and chews up the whole CPU. That happens from time to time and I don't know why. How do you filter? My utility box that does everything - fetchmail pops, sends it through procmail procmail does all my filtering for lists etc. THEN if it hasn't been filtered to another list, it goes through SpamAssassin. I whitelist everyone in my address book. The result has been incredible - SpamAssassin is a lot nicer now, since it is used far far less. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
