Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2022-09-23 Thread TiredLegs


JoeMuc2009 wrote: 
> Hi there,
> 
> well, you could extract a SB3 display and put it in place of a
> Transporter's display, they are identical. But I would consider it a big
> sacrifice too big to kill a working SB3 just for a display that is
> probably not really fresh anyway. Even if SB3s are cheap on the used
> market, their displays are far from beautiful in most cases.
> For people in the U.S. there is a great alternative in buying a
> brand-new front panel PCB from eBay seller *hotdogtec *here:
> https://www.ebay.de/itm/362191359449
> It's two new displays and no soldering required. As long as the supply
> lasts that is the cheapest and fastest option.
> I am offering the MN32032A display which is needed twice for a
> Transporter for 78.00 EUR per piece plus shipping.
> It is definitely recommended to change both displays at a time, only
> replacing one of both will reveal heavy differences in brightness
> between the old and the new one, no matter how little they have been
> used.
> 
> Cheers,
> Joe
Thanks for that info. I have on hand a semi-functional SB3 for spare
parts, but it seems like that eBay part would be a better solution.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2022-09-23 Thread JoeMuc2009


TiredLegs wrote: 
> This seems like as good a thread as any to ask my question:
> 
> If one of the displays in a Transporter dies, is it feasible to
> cannibalize the display from an SB3 to replace it? That is, can someone
> with reasonable soldering skills remove a functioning display and
> reinstall it in another device without killing it in the process?

Hi there,

well, you could extract a SB3 display and put it in place of a
Transporter's display, they are identical. But I would consider it a big
sacrifice too big to kill a working SB3 just for a display that is
probably not really fresh anyway. Even if SB3s are cheap on the used
market, their displays are far from beautiful in most cases.
For people in the U.S. there is a great alternative in buying a
brand-new front panel PCB from eBay seller *hotdogtec *here:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/362191359449
It's two new displays and no soldering required. As long as the supply
lasts that is the cheapest and fastest option.
I am offering the MN32032A display which is needed twice for a
Transporter for 78.00 EUR per piece plus shipping.
It is definitely recommended to change both displays at a time, only
replacing one of both will reveal heavy differences in brightness
between the old and the new one, no matter how little they have been
used.

Cheers,
Joe



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2022-09-22 Thread TiredLegs


This seems like as good a thread as any to ask my question:

If one of the displays in a Transporter dies, is it feasible to
cannibalize the display from an SB3 to replace it? That is, can someone
with reasonable soldering skills remove a functioning display and
reinstall it in another device without killing it in the process?



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2022-04-17 Thread leinster-lad


Hi Joe,
Looking for a couple of boom displays.

do you  have any ?



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2022-03-18 Thread JoeMuc2009


Cipri wrote: 
> Hi Joe,do you have an extra display for Logitech Boom? Thank you

Sure, please drop me a PM with your e-mail address and location and I'll
send you an offer.
Cheers,
Joe



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2022-03-18 Thread Cipri


Hi Joe,do you have an extra display for Logitech Boom? Thank you



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2021-05-23 Thread lostboy


Joe I'm also interested in acquiring some displays 3 x Boom, 2 x
classic

Chris



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2021-05-09 Thread d_c_h_w


Hi Joe,

Do you still have any stock of these. I have a boom and a v3 classic,
both of which could do with replacement vfds.

I am in the UK.

Thanks,
Dominic



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-12-16 Thread frankd


JoeMuc2009 wrote: 
> Result of March .. December 2020:
> 
> 32496
> 
> And there's still more to be done.
> Thank you all for sending your Squeezeboxes in for repair! :o
> 
> Stay safe, Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year to all of you.

Hi JoeMuc2009,
thanks for doing this service to the squeezebox community. 
Especially the Booms were an exceptional piece of sound quality combined
with a nice package.
Every Boom and Squeezebox we keep alive will help the ecosystem - While
more people move to raspberry and other systems, the mix of old-style
Booms, Squeezeboxes and Radios with new approaches makes the value of
this unique ecosystem with players for every operating system,
attractive hardware and multiple diy approaches...
Best,
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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-12-11 Thread JoeMuc2009


Result of March .. December 2020:

32496

And there's still more to be done.
Thank you all for sending your Squeezeboxes in for repair! :o

Stay safe, Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year to all of you.


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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-12-06 Thread JoeMuc2009


Tintifax wrote: 
> Thanks for the display, Johannes!
> It worked out great!

So good to see this, great job! :cool:



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-12-06 Thread Tintifax


Thanks for the display, Johannes!
It worked out great!


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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-10-31 Thread Tintifax


Hm, seems like the display is discontinued, I can't find it anywhere.
@Johannes: Do you still have a MN16032G or GB and can you send it to
Austria?

Regards,
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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-06-03 Thread djfake


Hi I am in Chicago and am looking for MN16032G or MN16032GB display.
thank you if you can help.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-04-30 Thread JoeMuc2009


chill wrote: 
> Hi Joe
> 
> I've read your blog posts on the main VFD replacement and the diode fix,
> and must say that they are very nicely written - clear, detailed, and
> well illustrated.  I have quite a collection of Booms and I expect to
> take on one or other of these jobs in the near future.
> 
> As a point of interest though, can you explain a detail that I don't
> quite understand?  You have explained that the variable voltage on the
> right side is intended as a way to control the display brightness, but
> you also say that it remains possible to vary the brightness even after
> your diode fix, which I understand creates a fixed voltage drop.  Do you
> know how the brightness remains variable even with this constant voltage
> drop?

Thanks for the praise! I'm happy it helped you.
Actually I can't explain what good that circuitry is as the brightness
control is just as good with the fix (and permanent voltage on the F2
lines) as it was without. The Noritake MN16032 display offers four
brightness levels for each pixel so actually this would be sufficient
already. And Logitech actually makes use of this which can be observed
if you have a visual effect such as the VU meters or spectrum analyzer
active. They will use some shading / brighter peak indicators in high
brightness levels whereas everything is the same brightness in lower
settings. The Squeezebox firmware offers "off" and five brightness
settings so they use the built-in display capabilities as well as
controlling the filament voltage. The latter won't work of course after
the fix was applied. I think the mode in which this should be most
apparent is the low brightness levels as this is when the grid voltage
differential is rather low. I have taken measurements in all brightness
settings, and this confirms the theory that a higher voltage
differential (i.e. less voltage on F2 while F1 is constantly at +5V)
causes higher brightness:

Level 5: 1.418 Volts 
Level 4: 1.414 Volts
Level 3: 1.413 Volts
Level 2: 2.513 Volts
Level 1: 2.511 Volts

You see that the F2 voltage at lower brightness levels goes up. If the
internal power supply circuitry is at fault, F2 goes up as high as +5V
also. The 3-diode fix will pull the F2 voltage down by approximately
2.1V to ~2.9V. This is still not as much of a voltage differential as in
the original but I did not observe any visual difference. Using fewer
diodes will cause the remaining diodes to become considerably warm which
will probably destroy them over time. Using more diodes will cause a
higher voltage drop, thus the filament to glow which is visually
disturbing and will also cause the filament to suffer.
Maybe it is a combination of the diodes and what remains from the
defective circuitry that keeps this working. Anyway, so far every fix
worked and nobody ever complained. We will never fully understand this
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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-04-29 Thread chill


Hi Joe

I've read your blog posts on the main VFD replacement and the diode fix,
and must say that they are very nicely written - clear, detailed, and
well illustrated.  I have quite a collection of Booms and I expect to
take on one or other of these jobs in the near future.

As a point of interest though, can you explain a detail that I don't
quite understand?  You have explained that the variable voltage on the
right side is intended as a way to control the display brightness, but
you also say that it remains possible to vary the brightness even after
your diode fix, which I understand creates a fixed voltage drop.  Do you
know how the brightness remains variable even with this constant voltage
drop?



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-04-23 Thread JoeMuc2009


newusername wrote: 
> A feedback a few months later: I changed the screen, everything working
> perfectly. Thanks Joe :)
> One minor remark regarding the article at
> https://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2016/09/logitech-slimdevices-squeezebox-classic.html:
> 
> "All of the other 12 pins must not be shorted together."
> 2 of the pins (side by side) have actually the same potential, even on
> an
> unsoldered screen. And the next 2 have a low resistance (300 ohms on the
> new
> one, once soldered, 500 ohms on the old one).

Thanks for the feedback. Great job!
It's true, two GND pins in the 12-pin block  of the Noritake VFDs have
the same potential, so in this specific case it wouldn't hurt to short
them together, but as a rule of thumb I would always avoid that :)



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2020-04-18 Thread newusername


newusername wrote: 
> Hi Joe,
> do you still have VFDs for Sqzbox Classic ?

A feedback a few months later: I changed the screen, everything working
perfectly. Thanks Joe :)
One minor remark regarding the article at
https://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2016/09/logitech-slimdevices-squeezebox-classic.html:

"All of the other 12 pins must not be shorted together."
2 of the pins (side by side) have actually the same potential, even on
an
unsoldered screen. And the next 2 have a low resistance (300 ohms on the
new
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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-11-29 Thread JoeMuc2009


axelis wrote: 
> Good evening, 
> just read this message posted couple of years ago; I have a boom with a
> screen more and more difficult to read; have read that you have had
> spare screens from the original manufacturer.
> Would you still have one for sell? 
> If yes, I'd be interested , living in France.
> 
> thanks to share conditions, if this would still be available, 
> thanks 
> regards
> Alex

Just sent you a PM :)



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-09-16 Thread JoeMuc2009


newusername wrote: 
> Hi Joe,
> do you still have VFDs for Sqzbox Classic ?

Hi there,
yes, I do. Unfortunately, the German Post has given up the possibility
to send stuff for 6.20 EUR worldwide so shipping will be considerably
more expensive. The shipping price depends on where you want to have the
display sent. Gross price is 46.00 EUR per unit.

Cheers,
Joe



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-09-16 Thread newusername


JoeMuc2009 wrote: 
> just sent you a PM :)

Hi Joe,
do you still have VFDs for Sqzbox Classic ?



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-09-15 Thread pishta


SamS wrote: 
> My Squeezebox Classic display finally died today. Any ideas where to get
> this replacement VFD in the USA?
I just parted an SB3 out. It had a good display until power supply
popped. Ill send you a PM. Im in Cali. IIRC the high voltage power
circuit to the VFD failed as I was only getting 5.6V to VFD.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-06-18 Thread JoeMuc2009


just sent you a PM :)



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-06-18 Thread Aries25au


Hello, I was directed to you from 1 of the members on this site.
I havce a squeezebox 3 .finally starting to play up..:( do you or
can you try and repairs these?
If you drop my a pm, Ill describe the problem.
I am located in Budapest, Hungary



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-05-31 Thread JoeMuc2009


SamS wrote: 
> My Squeezebox Classic display finally died today. Any ideas where to get
> this replacement VFD in the USA?

I've sent you a PM ;)



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2019-05-26 Thread SamS


My Squeezebox Classic display finally died today. Any ideas where to get
this replacement VFD in the USA?



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-07-20 Thread sebulba

Hello Johannes

I'll contact you in PM to get a VFX display if you still have stock,

ALso, on your tutorial for the broken woofer problem, you mention the
possibility to get a replacement, but you don't give any reference of a
compatible woofer ? 
(I think some woofer made for ceiling inclusion look compatible to me.)
thanks !



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-21 Thread Fizbin

ModelCitizen wrote: 
> $80 more? The price of this item to me in the UK appears to be
> $9,174.95!

No, No, No. The seller (Hotdogtec) does this when he goes on vacation.
He doesn't want to take down his auctions so he inflates the price so no
one buys. All his inventory (even a mouse) is currently like this and
it's the 3rd time he's done this in two years.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-21 Thread Fizbin

JoeMuc2009 wrote: 
> That's true. As long as the seller has units in stock (2 left at the
> moment), this is the more comfortable way. Before you toss the old PCB,
> please let me know if you would sell it and at what price.

This seller usually has more than what he states.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-21 Thread JoeMuc2009

ModelCitizen wrote: 
> $80 more? The price of this item to me in the UK appears to be
> $9,174.95!

ROFL, that probably means they don't want to send outside the USA?
I'll happily repair Transporter displays as well for EU people, by the
way. It's not that expensive eventually.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-21 Thread ModelCitizen

Fizbin wrote: 
> I think I'd rather buy one of these. It's an extra $80, but you get the
> entire assembly, which is much easier to install.
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Logitech-Slim-Devices-Transporter-Network-Music-Player-FRONT-DISPLAY-UNIT-/361901520563?hash=item544302f6b3:g:uyEAAOSwLnBXVeDN

$80 more? The price of this item to me in the UK appears to be
$9,174.95!



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-21 Thread JoeMuc2009

Fizbin wrote: 
> I think I'd rather buy one of these. It's an extra $80, but you get the
> entire assembly, which is much easier to install.
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Logitech-Slim-Devices-Transporter-Network-Music-Player-FRONT-DISPLAY-UNIT-/361901520563?hash=item544302f6b3:g:uyEAAOSwLnBXVeDN

That's true. As long as the seller has units in stock (2 left at the
moment), this is the more comfortable way. Before you toss the old PCB,
please let me know if you would sell it and at what price.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-20 Thread Fizbin

I think I'd rather buy one of these. It's an extra $80, but you get the
entire assembly, which is much easier to install.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Logitech-Slim-Devices-Transporter-Network-Music-Player-FRONT-DISPLAY-UNIT-/361901520563?hash=item544302f6b3:g:uyEAAOSwLnBXVeDN



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-20 Thread JoeMuc2009

Okay people, please PN me if you want displays. I have the "go" from
Noritake Germany to ship displays wherever I want. There won't be
conflicting interests with Noritake US, they apparently focus more on
business customers. So it appears I am the most inexpensive source for
the displays at the moment. Please check for yourselves. If it is no
longer true, please feel free to announce better sources here. I'm glad
to help but if there is an easier way for US people, it's all the better
also for me.
The pricing is currently 40 EUR for a Boom display (MN16032G or
MN16032GB, depending on stock), and 45 EUR for a Classic display
(MN32032A), two of which are needed for the Transporter. On top of that,
there are 6.50 EUR shipping for registered DeutschePost parcel to the
US. Please convert EUR to USD when the time to place your order comes to
know what this actually means for your budget. The exchange rate varies
a lot recently.
As I do not plan to keep greater amounts in stock, please allow up to
four weeks additional delivery time from Japan to me once I placed my
collective order with Noritake (they don't stock a lot themselves here
in Germany). So it may take up to six weeks until the display arrives at
your door. But you may as well be lucky and I have enough stock to send
them off right away. I'll keep everyone informed of course.
I hope you all are okay with advance payment as I won't be able to
afford large orders otherwise. It would also reduce the risk of orders
being cancelled, leaving me with stock I don't want. Anyway, please
place orders only if you are really sure you want the stuff. The pricing
is not going to vary much in the future so you can calculate the final
total easily. If Noritake has another price increase like they had
recently, I will post new prices here.

Cheers,
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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread Fizbin

Yeah, I'm definitely interested in a couple spares for my Transporter.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread SuperQ

If you're doing a bulk order in Germany, I could use a couple for my
Transporter, and one for a Boom.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread JoeMuc2009

JJZolx wrote: 
> Does Noritake sell individual units in any of those markets? I'm
> skeptical. I'm also skeptical that you'd be able to find many (or any?)
> distributors who would be buying those to stock and sell to the public.
> Now, if you want to buy 1500 of them, I'm sure you'd have no problem.

No need to worry, they ship displays to me for instance, any quantities
I want, and I'm not acting as a company, and no distributor is in the
supply chain. It is as easy as can be. Noritake is particularly
forthcoming in Germany. It's known that they are not as cooperative in
the States though. If all else fails, you could buy from me. Sending
from Germany to the US is surprisingly cheap, only around 6 EUR for a
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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread JJZolx

Does Noritake sell individual units in any of those markets? I'm
skeptical. I'm also skeptical that you'd be able to find many (or any?)
distributors who would be buying those to stock and sell to the public.
Now, if you want to buy 1500 of them, I'm sure you'd have no problem.



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread ModelCitizen

Thanks very much for this Joe.

I've just looked through your instructions. Judging by my experience
attempting to change the screen on various mobile phones I think it's
better I do not attempt this on my Boom as it'll almost certainly result
in a dead device!



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread JoeMuc2009

Hi, I have added my replies between the lines:

ModelCitizen wrote: 
> Thanks for this. The display on my Boom is not readable any more and I'd
> like to change it. However, I have a few issues I'd be glad if you or
> someone might adress:
> 
> 1) You say: " the changes in the control logic part seem pretty
> fundamental". This sounds like they are not a direct swap out, or have a
> I got that wrong?
> Well, the photos show that the circuitry has undergone some massive
> changes. However, besides minimal deviations, the electrical and logical
> interface is same as before. You can swap them against each other with
> no problems.
> 
> 2) How hard is the display to change? Is it a soldering iron job (if so
> it looks quite hard due to large number of pins)?
> It is a soldering job, and it's not the easiest one. I would say, on a
> scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is hardest, it's a 6. But this is not only due
> to the requisite desoldering and soldering but also because the Boom is
> not exactly service-friendly, and a lot of mistakes can be made on the
> way. My recommended replacement procedure is described in detail here:
> http://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2016/06/logitech-squeezebox-boom-vfd-display.html
> 
> 2) Where can I buy a Noritake MN16032GB. I can't find a seller anywhere?
> Noritake has some sales offices around the world. I recommend purchasing
> directly from there as intermediate merchants add quite a bit on top of
> the regular price. Here is what I could find on some of the data sheets:
> 
> Noritake Sales Office Tel Nos
> Nagoya Japan: +81 (0)52-561-9867
> Canada: +1-416-291-2946
> Chicago USA: +1-847-439-9020
> Munchen (D): +49 (0)89-3214-290
> Itron UK: +44 (0)1493 601144
> Rest Europe: +49 (0)61-0520-9220
> www.noritake-itron.com
> 
> If all else fails, I can send you small quantities directly. It is
> well-known that the US sales office has irreasonably high pricing,
> approximately double of what is charged for the same thing in Germany. I
> am currently in contact with them, asking why and if there is any chance
> of better pricing in the US any time soon.
> 
> Thanks



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Re: [slim] Good news: ongoing production of Boom, Classic, and Transporter displays

2017-06-19 Thread ModelCitizen

Thanks for this. The display on my Boom is not readable any more and I'd
like to change it. However, I have a few issues I'd be glad if you or
someone might adress:

1) You say: " the changes in the control logic part seem pretty
fundamental". This sounds like they are not a direct swap out, or have a
I got that wrong?
2) How hard is the display to change? Is it a soldering iron job (if so
it looks quite hard due to large number of pins)?
2) Where can I buy a Nortiake MN16032GB. I can't find a seller
anywhere?

Thanks



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