Re: [Discuss] Workshop-specific materials and discussion?

2015-03-10 Thread Raniere Silva
Hi Daisie,

thanks for your email and congrats for your first workshop.

 I noticed, when preparing my materials, that it seemed to
 be common practice to mix and match the lessons from the ones on the main
 repo, but I couldn't find any reference to previous materials/versions that
 other people had used to teach previous workshops.

This is one problem when we move from https://github.com/swcarpentry/bc/
to https://github.com/swcarpentry/lesson-template/ model.
With BC we can always know what version of the lesson was used.

 In addition, I added some
 diagrams and writeups that I'd written and found helpful in other contexts
 to my lessons, but I don't yet feel comfortable making a case for those
 changes to be integrated into the main repository. I'm sure this must be
 true for other instructors as well!

Back to when I organize workshops starting with
https://github.com/swcarpentry/lesson-template/
I created pull requests for small changes made for my workshop
before the workshop, normally typos.

Raniere


pgp8l902bvIhc.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org

[Discuss] Mozilla Science Lab Community Call this Thursday

2015-03-10 Thread Bill Mills
Hi all,

We're back March 12 (this Thursday) with this month's Science Lab community
call! The call kicks off at 11 ET. Dial in information can be found below.

This month, we’ll be hearing from *Shauna Gordon-McKeon* on Open Science
Comes to Campus
http://www.mozillascience.org/open-science-comes-to-campus/, a workshop
she and Bill Mills are working on spinning out of Open Hatch
http://openhatch.org/‘s successful Open Source Comes to Campus
http://campus.openhatch.org/ series. We’ve lead some community discussions
http://discourse.openhatch.org/t/open-science-comes-to-campus-a-planning-thread/80
and brainstorms https://etherpad.mozilla.org/startingOpenScience over the
past few weeks on how we can introduce the skills and ideas of open science
to undergrads, and we’re ready to start drafting curriculum; Shauna will be
updating us on the status of the project, and upcoming plans.

Also this month we will be hearing from *Jon Udell* on his current work
http://blog.jonudell.net/2015/02/11/online-scientific-collaboration-the-sequel/
to revisit online scientific collaboration, as an update to his seminal
work, Internet Groupware for Scientific Collaboration
http://jonudell.net/GroupwareReport.html. Jon is looking to speak to
researchers in a wide cross-section of fields to better understand how
scientists collaborate online today, and will be sharing some details on
the project and what he’s looking for on the call on the 12th.

Finally, we’re also going to hear from *Ward Cunningham*, original inventor
of the wiki concept  technology, on Smallest Federated Wiki, his ongoing
project
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2880204/collaboration-software/wiki-creator-reinvents-collaboration-again.html
to reinvent the wiki platform as a ‘chorus of voices
http://thegovlab.org/a-modern-wiki-for-a-modern-internet-the-smallest-federated-wiki-on-the-govlabs-demos-for-democracy/‘,
via forkable, distributed and creator-owned content.

Have an update, blog post or event you’d like to share relevant to open
science? Add it to the etherpad :
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/sciencelab-calls-mar12-2015
We hope you'll join us.



Phone Number: +1 800 707 2533, password 369

Room code (conference number): 7677

Note:  you can call the 1-800 number free of charge using Skype or
other VoIP clients


If you are getting a busy signal, you can try these (non-free) phone
numbers (+ the room code 7677):

CA/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, extension 92

UK/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, extension 92

FR/Paris: +33 1 84 88 37 37, extension 92

CA/Vancouver: +1 778 785-1540, extension 92

US/California/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, extension 92

US/California/San Francisco: +1 415 762 5700, extension 92

US/Oregon/Portland: +1 971 544 8000, extension 92


-- 
Best Regards,
Bill Mills
Community Manager
Mozilla Science Lab
___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org

Re: [Discuss] [Instructors] workshop at Monsanto in St Louis in April

2015-03-10 Thread Alan O'Cais
Hi all,

I realise I'm very late to the party here but I've been following the 
discussion and I wanted to add one option which I don't think has been explored 
yet.

First off, an opinion. I don't think SWC should provide volunteer workshops to 
organisations that are not demonstrably involved in open research. Such an 
approach is common in organisations such as PRACE and XSEDE who distribute 
supercomputing cycles on publicly funded resources to promising research.

That being said, I do not have a problem with someone like Monsanto sending 
some of their science team to attend instructor training, especially since they 
are required to volunteer at a workshop to actually get their badge. The 
material they need to instruct in-house is freely available to them because of 
SWCs open licencing without SWC having to lend their name to that effort.

My opinion is that this approach is also much more likely to generate 
meaningful  engagement if they do see value in SWC since you will have someone 
inside the organisation to champion your cause.

Kind regards,

Alan

On 9 Mar 2015 17:58, Ivan Gonzalez 
igl...@gmail.commailto:igl...@gmail.com wrote:

El 08/03/2015, a las 12:03, John Blischak 
jdblisc...@uchicago.edumailto:jdblisc...@uchicago.edu escribió:

 Certainly a highly trained SWC instructor, who typically has at least
 a bachelor's degree plus some advanced training, leading a workshop to
 teach employees of a company to use computational tools would not pass
 this test.

 http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.htm
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/13/are-unpaid-internships-illegal/

 What are the policies of other countries? Have they passed similar 
 legislation?

We have a similar lawn Spain. The law prevents Monsanto from hiring an 
instructor for free or peanuts, as the benefit of the teaching goes mostly to 
Monsanto, and not to the instructor. It even applies to graduate work: the 
Supreme Court has ruled that if you're doing a PhD, which in principle would be 
ok to be unpaid because you're getting a degree, you must have an employment 
contract under Labour Law after the first two years. That is because it's 
understood that from the third year the benefits the university gets form your 
work as a student overcome those you get from your PhD studies.

However, it's completely legal that Monsanto hires SWC to teach the workshop 
and that you volunteer for the non-profit SWC. Nobody gets paid, beyond 
reimbursements or fees, and the teaching fits under the reasons for which SWC 
is a non-profit. If you get paid though, it may get tricky, and not for 
Monsanto. You could claim that you *work* for SWC (because you are getting 
paid, not just reimbursed), so you are a SWC employee working without an 
employment contract, not paying social security taxes, etc…

It may be different in the US, but in my opinion having paid instructors by 
default would be a huge administrative burden, specially if we want to expand 
to other countries with an international pool of instructors under many 
different immigration status.

In my opinion, the simplest solution, leaving aside the ethical part, would be 
charge a flat fee as we do know and then, after the workshop, have someone call 
these wealthy companies and schools asking for an extra donation. This scales 
better than changing the default and allows to really pick the wealthy ones 
without misguided preconceptions.

Best,

Ivan
___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.orgmailto:Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org




Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH
52425 Juelich
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich
Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher
Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Wolfgang Marquardt (Vorsitzender),
Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt



___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org

[Discuss] testing scientific software revisited

2015-03-10 Thread Greg Wilson

Hi everyone,

Following on from last November's discussion (see 
http://software-carpentry.org/blog/2014/10/why-we-dont-teach-testing.html), 
Ian Hawke has put together some notebooks to test some scientific code.  
He'd be grateful for comments - the link to the GitHub repo is below, 
and you can view the notebooks themselves at 
http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/IanHawke/close-enough-balloons/tree/master/.


Thanks (and thanks to Ian),
Greg

Dear Greg, Lorena,

Your discussion from back in October/November has been nagging away that
the back of my mind. In a classic example of missing the wood for the
trees, I have some answers as to when the convergence rate is close
enough to 1 in Euler's method:

https://github.com/IanHawke/close-enough-balloons

I need to tidy up the bits of the last notebook and put more
cross-references in; in the meantime, please give me any comments you
might have before I actually try and turn them into blog posts.

Thanks,

Ian




___
Discuss mailing list
Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org