Re: [SH-Discuss] 2014 Ohio Pinball Show today through 3/1
Play free pinball ... ... Admission: $20. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm still going to go tomorrow after work! Seems like the kid would have a blast! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: http://ohiopinballshow.com/ Hope some of you can enjoy yourself and play free pinball. Starts today, ends on 3/1 The sheer hours are incredible on their website: - *Thursday February 27th 2014 5 PM to 12 AM* - *Friday February 28th 2014 11 AM to 12 AM* - *Saturday March 1st 2014 9 AM to 8 PM* They must have a big facility ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks, Byron D Moran Software Development Consultant (330)992-9766 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] 2014 Ohio Pinball Show today through 3/1
Bring a game to share, sell or trade and receive Free admission! Game must be on free play and available to public until 6 pm. It seems like a vendor show to me, I'm glad its not too far away though On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Byron Moran byrondmo...@gmail.com wrote: Play free pinball ... ... Admission: $20. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm still going to go tomorrow after work! Seems like the kid would have a blast! On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: http://ohiopinballshow.com/ Hope some of you can enjoy yourself and play free pinball. Starts today, ends on 3/1 The sheer hours are incredible on their website: - *Thursday February 27th 2014 5 PM to 12 AM* - *Friday February 28th 2014 11 AM to 12 AM* - *Saturday March 1st 2014 9 AM to 8 PM* They must have a big facility ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks, Byron D Moran Software Development Consultant (330)992-9766 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- G | Gaurav Narain Saxena | (330) 283 - 4972 | gsvolt.wordpress.com | @gsvolt I am a Board Member at SYN/HAK http://www.synhak.org: The Akron Hackerspace located at 48 S Summit St Akron Ohio 44308https://maps.google.com/maps?q=48+S+Summit+St+Akron+Ohio+44308 I am providing technical consulting services to Sherwin-Williamshttp://www.sherwin-williams.com/on behalf of Bennett Adelson http://www.bennettadelson.com/ (Microsoft Solution Center) located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio 44131https://maps.google.com/maps?q=6050+Oak+Tree+Blvd,+Cleveland,+Ohio+44131 I have also been providing solutions to non-trivial problems other businesses may have through my company Whiskey Bits LLC located in Portage Lakes, Ohio Learn more about things I have created by reading my About pagehttp://gsvolt.wordpress.com/about-2/on my blog http://gsvolt.wordpress.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities
ref = food warmer I will deliver it this afternoon. Should be at the space by 3pm. Philip On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:01 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel the chicken would be best warm. I will provide the sterno. Thanks Devin -- *From:* Martha Geroch mger...@yahoo.com *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities You know, I haven't decided whether the chicken is gonna be warm or cold, but I bet a food warmer would be useful to synhak (pizza's gotta stay warm too.) Ride was no problem. Martha On Tue, 2/25/14, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 11:24 AM Martha, Well, thank you many bunches for the offer of fully-cooked and spicy lower extremities from random chickens! If possible, try to separate the left legs and thighs from the right legs and thighs, as some picky members prefer one side over the other. I think it has something to do with altered states of reality on odd-numbered days. I am sure all will be pleased the addition of some tasty food from your kitchen. Would you like to serve the pieces/parts warm? If yes, I have a new, never used, food warmer that uses Sterno for heating. It is a big aluminum tray with a wire frame support. Let me know and I will have it at SH by noon on Saturday. I'll try to find some cans of Sterno or bring a bag of wood sticks to burn. BTW, I set aside a dozen or so empty glass bottles for you to recycle. All are in a pile on the new sink in the new kitchen area. They were left over from the festivities last Saturday. A little late, but I wanted to thank you for the ride to west Akron the other day. I appreciate your generosity and time. I hope it was not too much out of your way. See you this weekend! Philip On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Martha Geroch mger...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to bring some spicy chicken legs (or thighs) - already cooked, no grill necessary. Just a big platter - probably not enough for everybody. I assume no response means that's OK. On Fri, 2/21/14, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Date: Friday, February 21, 2014, 5:03 PM I was planning on making Cupcakes but I didn't know If we had an estimate of how many people we expect -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] new display wall of fame
Thanks Philip for doing this .. really appreciate it Can't wait to see the community art wall The last time I painted something was for Womack Family Band's community quilt at Jubileego 2013 in New London, I took a photo of it too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/12734773534/sizes/o/in/set-72157641435021914/ I had painted the two Om symbols in the middle On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the spirit of do'ocracy and a strong personal motivation, I want to use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the back room, as a display wall. I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers, artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall. The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada Lovelace*, *Alan Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and art every week. I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis. I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints, photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy, purpose, and mission of SH. If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger. The text of your complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of one and dealt with promptly. Be aware that frivolous claims will result in a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county. Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up now. BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to hang on the wall at my expense. Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- G | Gaurav Narain Saxena | (330) 283 - 4972 | gsvolt.wordpress.com | @gsvolt I am a Board Member at SYN/HAK http://www.synhak.org: The Akron Hackerspace located at 48 S Summit St Akron Ohio 44308https://maps.google.com/maps?q=48+S+Summit+St+Akron+Ohio+44308 I am providing technical consulting services to Sherwin-Williamshttp://www.sherwin-williams.com/on behalf of Bennett Adelson http://www.bennettadelson.com/ (Microsoft Solution Center) located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio 44131https://maps.google.com/maps?q=6050+Oak+Tree+Blvd,+Cleveland,+Ohio+44131 I have also been providing solutions to non-trivial problems other businesses may have through my company Whiskey Bits LLC located in Portage Lakes, Ohio Learn more about things I have created by reading my About pagehttp://gsvolt.wordpress.com/about-2/on my blog http://gsvolt.wordpress.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Who wants another 3D printer?
Currently the printer its without a control computer as we are in the middle of updating it. I do not know when it will be finished. On Feb 26, 2014 7:57 PM, Tomm Smith root.pac...@gmail.com wrote: Also, in addition to the earlier suggestion. Looking further into the easiest and most efficient manner to build it I came across the idea of actually building in the theme of the prize. We could essentially build a LulzBot Taz from our printer to try and win a printer. The Taz has a very simple and easy structure to it, and I believe all the parts could be printed outside of the guide rods and the servos/accompanying belts. Regardless of the outcome, after building the Quine we could publish the prints and donate a few to surrounding schools to try and stir curiosity with our Youth. If anyone is interested in this idea lets throw some ideas around. I have some uncertainties in the programmatic side of it, but the structural side will be fairly simple, even considering the means. Or at least one can think so initially On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Tomm Smith root.pac...@gmail.com wrote: Just throwing the idea out, but what if we just made one out of the preexisting one, buying only the electronics and parts we cannot make? This would be a creative solution to the contests requirements and would also stir curiosity with the simple, self redundant nature of it. Everybody likes a Quine, right? The project could stir publicity, inspire, cut cost, as well as a few other aspects, and most of all possibly bring in a top of the line 3D printer that could be used for some serious custom part manufacturing. I would think that the biggest obstacle would be the time required to print all of the parts required, seeing as the printer is sort of slow? The only money in would be the servos, connecting belts, and possibly some push rods, *IF* they cannot be printed or alternative solutions constructed. I am thinking this would be a fairly simple project given the skeletal structure is pretty simple. Though, most of the aspects will depend upon the limitations of the current 3D printer. EG. Maximum print lengt/distance, accuracy of detail and intricacy, and those are about the only two I think of. Outside of those limitations, I see no major preventative. Even the length issue could possibly be overcame by making the pieces individually and gluing them together with some of the same material, depending upon the structural strength of the product of such a procedure. Just a suggestion for conversation and the 3D printer. Sincerly, Tomm Smith God bless On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: I think synhak should, because: - spiff and all the other repos: https://github.com/SYNHAK - and we are a hackerspace If no one else applies, I'll plan to complete an application - heck I'll do it on opening day itself as that is when the form goes live. If I need any specifics from members, I can collect it then and gather feedback. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: http://hackaday.com/2014/02/26/get-your-hackerspace-a-3d-printer/ Anyone interested in this? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Open hours today
FYI I'll be there around 3pm to continue work on both bathrooms. If anybody has painting skills, they can paint the rear bathroom door. One side has the first coat of orange, the other is ready to paint. Two coats of paint are necessary. It is off the hinges, on a table, in the front room, ready to paint. I will be installing the new sink and faucet (thanks to Justin Herman!) today. Philip On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: Tomm, Yes, lots of work. If you're interested in the general buildout of the space, I'd recommend joining the bu...@synhak.org list. You can do so by sending an email to build-subscr...@synhak.org and replying to the automatic email that comes back with the subject line intact. Chris On 2/26/2014 4:12 PM, Tomm Smith wrote: Are there any general jobs that are needed to be completed before Opening Day? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.comwrote: Thank you I will be there around 5. I just noticed that Chris' email named me as Secretary but when I left the meeting last night I was under the impression that you won ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Space is OPEN!
The photographer said the story was supposed to run on the 29th. Problem: This year isn’t a leap year. Can someone contact Paula and find out what day our story is supposed to run? Thanks, Chris On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:06 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm.. does anyone from synhak subscribe to Akron Beacon Journal and don't mind keeping an eye for our snippet in the paper? Possibly email discuss when its published? On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: Hey all, The space is open. I’ve got the day off and decided to stop by early. Anyone want to come down and help me tidy things up just a bit before the photographer from the ABJ shows up? Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Space is OPEN!
On it. He prolly meant 28th morning. Paula mentioned that she wanted to publish it before the event. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: The photographer said the story was supposed to run on the 29th. Problem: This year isn't a leap year. Can someone contact Paula and find out what day our story is supposed to run? Thanks, Chris On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:06 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm.. does anyone from synhak subscribe to Akron Beacon Journal and don't mind keeping an eye for our snippet in the paper? Possibly email discuss when its published? On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: Hey all, The space is open. I've got the day off and decided to stop by early. Anyone want to come down and help me tidy things up just a bit before the photographer from the ABJ shows up? Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] new display wall of fame
I definitely like the timeline idea. I'll pick up some mounting board for Unframed pictures next time I'm at hobby lobby. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 27, 2014 1:55 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:36:04 Philip P. Patnode wrote: In the spirit of do'ocracy and a strong personal motivation, I want to use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the back room, as a display wall. I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers, artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall. The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada Lovelace*, *Alan Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and art every week. I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis. +1! It would be super cool to have a wall of photographs of our community members with names so others can easily match names only ever seen on a mailing list with real meatspace entities. I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints, photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy, purpose, and mission of SH. I've got a couple of photographs of the garage that would be pretty neat to include as a kind of timeline. If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger. The text of your complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of one and dealt with promptly. Be aware that frivolous claims will result in a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county. Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up now. Becca and I decided that we'd like to paint some arrowish line things on the wall, akin to this: http://www.lighttape.co.uk/graphic23/subway-egress.jpg Except a number of them that are different colors pointing to different locations in the space at chest or eye level. I think it'd be neat to use whiteboard or chalkboard paint on small sections of them for easy relabeling in the future. As long as they're just frames that are getting hung like a normal frame, I don't think it'll get in the way much with some more painting on that wall :) BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to hang on the wall at my expense. Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Knight Foundation Grant Hold
On Feb 27, 2014 3:51 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: Hello everyone, At the meeting on Tuesday, there was apparently some misunderstanding about the legality of our credit union holding our $15,000 deposit for a period of time. I have done some research, and have found the following information: First, everyone needs to be aware that we use a credit union, not a bank, as our financial institution. Specifically, SYN/HAK is a member of BFG Credit Union, headquartered in Akron. As such, the regulations that apply to banks and bank customers do not entirely apply to us. Second, the Expedited Funds Availability Act of 1987 classifies our deposit of $15,000 as a “Large Deposit”, which means that over $5,000 was deposited in one day. The federal regulations for requiring fund availability on deposits above $5,000 is $5,000 on the second business day, and the remainder on the 7th business day. Keep in mind, I’m not an expert on the financial industry by any means. I have just gone and done a bit of Googling to try to figure this out and make sure we weren’t getting screwed. In my personal opinion, we aren’t. Yeah, I'm still not sure why a hold is an issue since we aren't spending any of it within 10 days. Thanks, Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
*tuesday night* From: degerov...@yahoo.com degerov...@yahoo.com To: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority" argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
* Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!
Hey everyone. With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going. If you would like to subscribe join here http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682id=809cd4bb9b If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at news-disc...@synhak.org. I hope to have ~1 or so a month. Thanks, Justin Herman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
My understanding of the working group was that they would come up with plans to suggest to the board and members as to hope to allocate funds. This doesn't require a proposal since each disbursement would be a proposal or board action. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent though. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 27, 2014 6:31 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!
How often did we have our old newsletter? On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone. With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going. If you would like to subscribe join here http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682id=809cd4bb9b If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at news-disc...@synhak.org. I hope to have ~1 or so a month. Thanks, Justin Herman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 18:30:54 Michael Griesacker wrote: Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. If thats a proposal, perhaps Justin would like to send it to discuss@ so we can discuss how it would work. You can't just bring up during a meeting I propose FOO and never follow up on it. What good is a proposal if the proponent doesn't work to push it through and achieve consensus? On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 21:58:00 a l wrote: My understanding of the working group was that they would come up with plans to suggest to the board and members as to hope to allocate funds. This doesn't require a proposal since each disbursement would be a proposal or board action. Sounds reasonable. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent though. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 27, 2014 6:31 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Also: ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant. ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions? *** They use the words charitable use. Which carries more meaning than may appear at the surface. On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a game plan for it. Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation. - That's from the minutes On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing? D. From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: Torrie, While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your implied authority argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this time. Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real wording? This was discussion about working on the idea. Thanks, Devin Wolfe From: Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the committee concerned about the growth of SYNHAK. Technically, they have no authority. Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply some kind of authority. Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual powers. Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!
Im not sure we had an old newsletter :) but we did have annou...@synhak.org On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: How often did we have our old newsletter? On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone. With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going. If you would like to subscribe join here http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682id=809cd4bb9b If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at news-disc...@synhak.org. I hope to have ~1 or so a month. Thanks, Justin Herman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 23:05:38 Justin Herman wrote: Im not sure we had an old newsletter :) but we did have annou...@synhak.org We still do. announce@ is for anyone who wants to announce local events and happenings to the hacker community of Akron. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: How often did we have our old newsletter? On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone. With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going. If you would like to subscribe join here http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682i d=809cd4bb9b If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at news-disc...@synhak.org. I hope to have ~1 or so a month. Thanks, Justin Herman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 22:15:51 Michael Griesacker wrote: How often did we have our old newsletter? We never had one. On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone. With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going. If you would like to subscribe join here http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682id =809cd4bb9b If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at news-disc...@synhak.org. I hope to have ~1 or so a month. Thanks, Justin Herman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
