Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
Pretty sure my post didn't go through due to me being dumb and putting gigantic files in it. Sorry admins! Sorry if it did go through and this is a repeat I agree if we can't get a full blown summer program set up perhaps we can do something on a smaller scale to test activities on. We were approached last year about going to the Boyscouts jamboree hosted at KSU and perhaps doing something there, this might be an ideal test bed since it's a 3-day event with children of varying ages. G, while I appreciate your frustration in not having curricula in hand I urge you to have some patience. We will never foster an atmosphere of collaboration if every time someone has car trouble or doesn't immediately reply to an email we take over a project they volunteered to lead. I know Bethany put in a fair amount of time getting things ready for the IRS. There were also weekend meetings for a little bit but I was never able to attend due to school conflicts. I have attached the syllabus and the supporting document I had when we were finalizing our tax work(not attached due to file size. ask me at a meeting for them). I believe the drive behind developing our own program was due to the somewhat lack of coherent material available. There are myriad weekend and afternoon projects out there but none are structured in a way to supplement formal education or arranged to cover a whole branch of a STEM field. I think that was the goal for the Young Aristotles. Regarding target age I don't know, that really depends on activities we want to do as well as comfort levels of volunteers. Myself I see this aimed at middleschool aged students for the summer program though the activities could be adapted for elementary students as a supplementary lesson. In addition to what age do we want to teach. We should decide the scope of our lessons. Do we want to complement the things they have or will be studying in school? Or do we want to teach them completely new concepts they have no exposure to and wouldn't have exposure to in school? regards, Andrew L On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:20 AM, a l wrote: > I agree if we can't get a full blown summer program set up perhaps we can > do something on a smaller scale to test activities on. We were approached > last year about going to the Boyscouts jamboree hosted at KSU and perhaps > doing something there, this might be an ideal test bed since it's a 3-day > event with children of varying ages. > > G, while I appreciate your frustration in not having curricula in hand I > urge you to have some patience. We will never foster an atmosphere of > collaboration if every time someone has car trouble or doesn't immediately > reply to an email we take over a project they volunteered to lead. I know > Bethany put in a fair amount of time getting things ready for the IRS. > There were also weekend meetings for a little bit but I was never able to > attend due to school conflicts. I have attached the syllabus and the > supporting document I had when we were finalizing our tax work. > > I believe the drive behind developing our own program was due to the > somewhat lack of coherent material available. There are myriad weekend and > afternoon projects out there but none are structured in a way to supplement > formal education or arranged to cover a whole branch of a STEM field. I > think that was the goal for the Young Aristotles. Regarding target age I > don't know, that really depends on activities we want to do as well as > comfort levels of volunteers. Myself I see this aimed at middleschool aged > students for the summer program though the activities could be adapted for > elementary students as a supplementary lesson. > In addition to what age do we want to teach. We should decide the scope of > our lessons. Do we want to complement the things they have or will be > studying in school? Or do we want to teach them completely new concepts > they have no exposure to and wouldn't have exposure to in school? > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > >> What age group are we targeting? >> >> >> On Monday, February 17, 2014, gs volt wrote: >> >>> I like Becca's suggestion of consulting with others for advice. >>> >>> I'd say start simple. >>> My version of simple - google for hackerspace curriculum or hackerspace >>> workshop; analyze what's already out there; pick one format, stick with it >>> for round1. >>> >>> I'm getting tired of 'Bethany has lesson plans' frankly. If she has >>> something concrete, fine - that can be used if/when she shows up to share >>> them >>> >>> But in her absence, we all can decide one simple format from an existing >>> hackerspace or other organization that has experience with running >>> workshops for younger students. >>> >>> Right about now, in my mind atleast, Torrie's SparkAK talk comes to mind >>> - *Document, Document, Document* - to make sure that the organizing can >>> continue by others. >>> >>> One example I found - Sparkfun has contributed
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
What age group are we targeting? On Monday, February 17, 2014, gs volt wrote: > I like Becca's suggestion of consulting with others for advice. > > I'd say start simple. > My version of simple - google for hackerspace curriculum or hackerspace > workshop; analyze what's already out there; pick one format, stick with it > for round1. > > I'm getting tired of 'Bethany has lesson plans' frankly. If she has > something concrete, fine - that can be used if/when she shows up to share > them > > But in her absence, we all can decide one simple format from an existing > hackerspace or other organization that has experience with running > workshops for younger students. > > Right about now, in my mind atleast, Torrie's SparkAK talk comes to mind - > *Document, > Document, Document* - to make sure that the organizing can continue by > others. > > One example I found - Sparkfun has contributed curriculum - > https://learn.sparkfun.com/resources > In which someone from GirlScouts shared their Lilypad takehomekit as well > as presentation: https://learn.sparkfun.com/resources/31 > This is a very basic example. I'm sure there's plenty others out there. I > only share this as I'm not sure if entities like JoAnn etc have kids > workshops onsite at their facility, but a quick phone call to them and we > can know one way or another. > > At Ingenuity last year 'make and take home' workshops were very well > received. I'm sure they are planning them again this year. > > Our emphasis for the short term can be re-use existing resources, gain > experience organizing the kids activities, tweak it to improve it for next > time; potentially create new original programs for kids. > > Starting simple from the get go allows us to keep improving in subsequent > programs we organize - note to future self -- kickass might be an > understatement when describing a syn/hak event for kids. > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > > I think it would benefit us to talk to some people with experience with > summer youth programs (Suzie graham who use to run Lock 3 summer arts > experience , Wendy Duke of miller south and a few others I have in mind) . > Take the remainder of the year to make contacts , get comfortable in our > new space,perhaps find funding set up open DNS incase the kids are on the > computers , make detailed plans for the program and launch it next year. > This would give us chances to come up with lesson plans and test them out > on a group of volunteer kids ( children, friends and family members of > synhakers) so we can see the lessons carried out like a tech rehearsal for > a play . Perhaps come up with a survey to distribute to a few schools to be > sent home with kids asking key questions like: > 1. When in the summer would be best for your family? > 2. What time during the day? > 3.would you as a parent want to chaperone the program? > 4. Under proper supervision would you be comfortable with your child using > tools such as drills, soldering irons, computers? > Etc. etc. > I requested lesson plans from Bethany on the previous thread and she did > not respond. > > On Monday, February 17, 2014, a l wrote: > > I have a few outlines I had Beth put together when we were finalizing the > IRS stuff in the fall but my understanding was she had all the curriculum > she had been working on and that there had been a few meetings to further > develop materials since then. > > If this is not the case or we are unable to get in touch with Beth I think > that baring joining up with apl or the schools it will be very hard to put > everything together and advertise by the summer. > > Regards, > Andrew L > On Feb 17, 2014 5:01 PM, "Becca Salchak" wrote: > > I think that if we do not truly have a cirriculum in place we should put > it off till summer of next year > > On Monday, February 17, 2014, Torrie Fischer > wrote: > > On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:00:51 a l wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth had > > been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our > > number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. > > > > I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of > children > > and the curriculum Beth has planned out. > > I was asking because someone was looking for the curriculum and other > things > that were planned out. None of that seems to have been posted anywhere, > and I > haven't heard anything at all since the previous thread. > > > > > Regards, > > Andrew L > > > > On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" > wrote: > > > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? > > > ___ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > Discuss@synhak.org > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
I like Becca's suggestion of consulting with others for advice. I'd say start simple. My version of simple - google for hackerspace curriculum or hackerspace workshop; analyze what's already out there; pick one format, stick with it for round1. I'm getting tired of 'Bethany has lesson plans' frankly. If she has something concrete, fine - that can be used if/when she shows up to share them But in her absence, we all can decide one simple format from an existing hackerspace or other organization that has experience with running workshops for younger students. Right about now, in my mind atleast, Torrie's SparkAK talk comes to mind - *Document, Document, Document* - to make sure that the organizing can continue by others. One example I found - Sparkfun has contributed curriculum - https://learn.sparkfun.com/resources In which someone from GirlScouts shared their Lilypad takehomekit as well as presentation: https://learn.sparkfun.com/resources/31 This is a very basic example. I'm sure there's plenty others out there. I only share this as I'm not sure if entities like JoAnn etc have kids workshops onsite at their facility, but a quick phone call to them and we can know one way or another. At Ingenuity last year 'make and take home' workshops were very well received. I'm sure they are planning them again this year. Our emphasis for the short term can be re-use existing resources, gain experience organizing the kids activities, tweak it to improve it for next time; potentially create new original programs for kids. Starting simple from the get go allows us to keep improving in subsequent programs we organize - note to future self -- kickass might be an understatement when describing a syn/hak event for kids. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > I think it would benefit us to talk to some people with experience with > summer youth programs (Suzie graham who use to run Lock 3 summer arts > experience , Wendy Duke of miller south and a few others I have in mind) . > Take the remainder of the year to make contacts , get comfortable in our > new space,perhaps find funding set up open DNS incase the kids are on the > computers , make detailed plans for the program and launch it next year. > This would give us chances to come up with lesson plans and test them out > on a group of volunteer kids ( children, friends and family members of > synhakers) so we can see the lessons carried out like a tech rehearsal for > a play . Perhaps come up with a survey to distribute to a few schools to be > sent home with kids asking key questions like: > 1. When in the summer would be best for your family? > 2. What time during the day? > 3.would you as a parent want to chaperone the program? > 4. Under proper supervision would you be comfortable with your child using > tools such as drills, soldering irons, computers? > Etc. etc. > I requested lesson plans from Bethany on the previous thread and she did > not respond. > > On Monday, February 17, 2014, a l wrote: > >> I have a few outlines I had Beth put together when we were finalizing >> the IRS stuff in the fall but my understanding was she had all the >> curriculum she had been working on and that there had been a few meetings >> to further develop materials since then. >> >> If this is not the case or we are unable to get in touch with Beth I >> think that baring joining up with apl or the schools it will be very hard >> to put everything together and advertise by the summer. >> >> Regards, >> Andrew L >> On Feb 17, 2014 5:01 PM, "Becca Salchak" wrote: >> >>> I think that if we do not truly have a cirriculum in place we should put >>> it off till summer of next year >>> >>> On Monday, February 17, 2014, Torrie Fischer >>> wrote: >>> On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:00:51 a l wrote: > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth had > been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our > number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. > > I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of children > and the curriculum Beth has planned out. I was asking because someone was looking for the curriculum and other things that were planned out. None of that seems to have been posted anywhere, and I haven't heard anything at all since the previous thread. > > Regards, > Andrew L > > On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" wrote: > > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@synhak.org > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Becc
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
I think it would benefit us to talk to some people with experience with summer youth programs (Suzie graham who use to run Lock 3 summer arts experience , Wendy Duke of miller south and a few others I have in mind) . Take the remainder of the year to make contacts , get comfortable in our new space,perhaps find funding set up open DNS incase the kids are on the computers , make detailed plans for the program and launch it next year. This would give us chances to come up with lesson plans and test them out on a group of volunteer kids ( children, friends and family members of synhakers) so we can see the lessons carried out like a tech rehearsal for a play . Perhaps come up with a survey to distribute to a few schools to be sent home with kids asking key questions like: 1. When in the summer would be best for your family? 2. What time during the day? 3.would you as a parent want to chaperone the program? 4. Under proper supervision would you be comfortable with your child using tools such as drills, soldering irons, computers? Etc. etc. I requested lesson plans from Bethany on the previous thread and she did not respond. On Monday, February 17, 2014, a l wrote: > I have a few outlines I had Beth put together when we were finalizing the > IRS stuff in the fall but my understanding was she had all the curriculum > she had been working on and that there had been a few meetings to further > develop materials since then. > > If this is not the case or we are unable to get in touch with Beth I think > that baring joining up with apl or the schools it will be very hard to put > everything together and advertise by the summer. > > Regards, > Andrew L > On Feb 17, 2014 5:01 PM, "Becca Salchak" > > > wrote: > >> I think that if we do not truly have a cirriculum in place we should put >> it off till summer of next year >> >> On Monday, February 17, 2014, Torrie Fischer >> > >> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:00:51 a l wrote: >>> > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth >>> had >>> > been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our >>> > number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. >>> > >>> > I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of >>> children >>> > and the curriculum Beth has planned out. >>> >>> I was asking because someone was looking for the curriculum and other >>> things >>> that were planned out. None of that seems to have been posted anywhere, >>> and I >>> haven't heard anything at all since the previous thread. >>> >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Andrew L >>> > >>> > On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" >>> wrote: >>> > > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing >>> them? >>> > > ___ >>> > > Discuss mailing list >>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> -- >> Becca Salchak >> blsalc...@yahoo.com >> peace and love >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > -- Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com peace and love ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
I have a few outlines I had Beth put together when we were finalizing the IRS stuff in the fall but my understanding was she had all the curriculum she had been working on and that there had been a few meetings to further develop materials since then. If this is not the case or we are unable to get in touch with Beth I think that baring joining up with apl or the schools it will be very hard to put everything together and advertise by the summer. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 17, 2014 5:01 PM, "Becca Salchak" wrote: > I think that if we do not truly have a cirriculum in place we should put > it off till summer of next year > > On Monday, February 17, 2014, Torrie Fischer > wrote: > >> On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:00:51 a l wrote: >> > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth >> had >> > been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our >> > number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. >> > >> > I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of >> children >> > and the curriculum Beth has planned out. >> >> I was asking because someone was looking for the curriculum and other >> things >> that were planned out. None of that seems to have been posted anywhere, >> and I >> haven't heard anything at all since the previous thread. >> >> > >> > Regards, >> > Andrew L >> > >> > On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" >> wrote: >> > > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? >> > > ___ >> > > Discuss mailing list >> > > Discuss@synhak.org >> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > -- > Becca Salchak > blsalc...@yahoo.com > peace and love > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
I think that if we do not truly have a cirriculum in place we should put it off till summer of next year On Monday, February 17, 2014, Torrie Fischer wrote: > On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:00:51 a l wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth had > > been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our > > number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. > > > > I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of > children > > and the curriculum Beth has planned out. > > I was asking because someone was looking for the curriculum and other > things > that were planned out. None of that seems to have been posted anywhere, > and I > haven't heard anything at all since the previous thread. > > > > > Regards, > > Andrew L > > > > On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" > > > > wrote: > > > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? > > > ___ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > Discuss@synhak.org > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com peace and love ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:00:51 a l wrote: > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth had > been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our > number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. > > I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of children > and the curriculum Beth has planned out. I was asking because someone was looking for the curriculum and other things that were planned out. None of that seems to have been posted anywhere, and I haven't heard anything at all since the previous thread. > > Regards, > Andrew L > > On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" wrote: > > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@synhak.org > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I also haven't seen anything Beth had been working on so I don't know what short of equipment we'd need our number of volunteers. I sent her an email but I haven't heard back yet. I supposehow much sharing of classes goes on depends on number of children and the curriculum Beth has planned out. Regards, Andrew L On Feb 16, 2014 8:22 PM, "Torrie Fischer" wrote: > What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Little Archimedes/Aristotles
What's up with the kids classes? Are there any needs for sharing them? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
