Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Moritz Luca Schmid]

Hi Ben,

thanks a lot for your helpful advice!

Most typos should be fixed by now and I am going to add the paragraph 
breaks.


The chapter "Deliverable Features" - you are right - does not clearly 
separate the deliverables from the existing stuff.


I am going to improve that.


Thanks again! I am really glad to receive so much feedback from the 
community!


Luca



On 21.03.2017 18:30, Ben Hilburn wrote:

Hi Moritz -

Nice work! I'm really happy to see this proposal. A few notes:

* If you plan on integrating any other software into your work, please 
specifically call out its license.
* As Martin said, it would be good to fix some of the typos. Also, 
please add a paragraph break (either an indent or a carriage return) 
to more clearly indicate where your paragraphs start & stop.
* In "Deliverable Features", there actually seems to be a mix of 
things that you will deliver as part of this GSoC project, and things 
that already exist that you will re-use. It would be good to find a 
way to specifically highlight which items you are implementing / 
contributing to GNU Radio as part of the work (note that integrating 
third-party software into a block *is* a contribution).


I'm really excited to see where this goes, and great work so far!

Cheers,
Ben

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Moritz Luca Schmid 
> 
wrote:


Hi Bastian,

thanks for the tip! The projects of opendigitalradio association
seem really interesting for the DAB project, and welle.io
 in particular for the GUI. Matthias from
opendigitalradio wrote me as well.

I am planning to reuse some code especially for the implementation
of MPEG Audio Layer II and HE-ACC-v2 coding, as I wrote in my
proposal. These projects seem the perfect source for this case.


Thanks and Regards

Luca



On 20.03.2017 18:00, Bastian Bloessl wrote:

Hi Luca,

great proposal.

Apart from gr-dab, there seem to be several other DAB
implementations. Opendigitalradio lists a few:
http://wiki.opendigitalradio.org/DAB_reception


Did you have a look at them? welle.io , in
particular, seems to be interesting in that context.
Maybe you could reuse (some of) their code and mainly
integrate it into GNU Radio.

Best,
Bastian




On 18 Mar 2017, at 15:59, Luca Schmid
> wrote:

Hi everyone,
my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year
student of electrical engineering at KIT. I also work as
an assistant at the Communications Engineering Lab (CEL)
in Karlsruhe.

I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver
app project. It would be very kind of you to take a look
at my proposal and give me some feedback.
You can find the draft proposal on my GitHub:
https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal


Thanks and Regards
Luca



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Ben Hilburn]

Hi Moritz -

Nice work! I'm really happy to see this proposal. A few notes:

* If you plan on integrating any other software into your work, please
specifically call out its license.
* As Martin said, it would be good to fix some of the typos. Also, please
add a paragraph break (either an indent or a carriage return) to more
clearly indicate where your paragraphs start & stop.
* In "Deliverable Features", there actually seems to be a mix of things
that you will deliver as part of this GSoC project, and things that already
exist that you will re-use. It would be good to find a way to specifically
highlight which items you are implementing / contributing to GNU Radio as
part of the work (note that integrating third-party software into a block
*is* a contribution).

I'm really excited to see where this goes, and great work so far!

Cheers,
Ben

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Moritz Luca Schmid <
luca.moritz.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bastian,
>
> thanks for the tip! The projects of opendigitalradio association seem
> really interesting for the DAB project, and welle.io in particular for
> the GUI. Matthias from opendigitalradio wrote me as well.
>
> I am planning to reuse some code especially for the implementation of MPEG
> Audio Layer II and HE-ACC-v2 coding, as I wrote in my proposal. These
> projects seem the perfect source for this case.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> Luca
>
>
>
> On 20.03.2017 18:00, Bastian Bloessl wrote:
>
>> Hi Luca,
>>
>> great proposal.
>>
>> Apart from gr-dab, there seem to be several other DAB implementations.
>> Opendigitalradio lists a few:
>> http://wiki.opendigitalradio.org/DAB_reception
>>
>> Did you have a look at them? welle.io, in particular, seems to be
>> interesting in that context.
>> Maybe you could reuse (some of) their code and mainly integrate it into
>> GNU Radio.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bastian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 15:59, Luca Schmid 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of
>>> electrical engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the
>>> Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.
>>>
>>> I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project.
>>> It would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me some
>>> feedback.
>>> You can find the draft proposal on my GitHub:
>>> https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>> Luca
>>>
>>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Marcus Müller]

Hi Ben,


that might be a bit much too ask for, since that involves the fine
details of synchronizing audio hardware to RF hardware. We've had a
lengthy discussion on that:


https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2016-11/msg00029.html


And frankly, Fons seems to be a bit of an expert on low-latency Audio on
Linux, and I'm a bit of an expert on GNU Radio, and we couldn't agree on
a universal, easy way to do that. I'd be really really happy if a
student evaluated different control loops to implement for example the
DLL or other approaches. But that alone would probably be worth a GSoC,
if not a thesis.


Best regards,

Marcus


On 03/19/2017 07:24 AM, Benny Alexandar wrote:
>
> Hi Luca,
>
>
> Good proposal to see you are planning to add audio coding/decoding
> into the module.
>
> Please add a synchronization method to synchronize the received audio
> with transmitter audio clock.
>
>
> Let me know if you need any details.
>
>
> -ben
>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Moritz Luca Schmid]

Hi Bastian,

thanks for the tip! The projects of opendigitalradio association seem 
really interesting for the DAB project, and welle.io in particular for 
the GUI. Matthias from opendigitalradio wrote me as well.


I am planning to reuse some code especially for the implementation of 
MPEG Audio Layer II and HE-ACC-v2 coding, as I wrote in my proposal. 
These projects seem the perfect source for this case.



Thanks and Regards

Luca


On 20.03.2017 18:00, Bastian Bloessl wrote:

Hi Luca,

great proposal.

Apart from gr-dab, there seem to be several other DAB implementations. 
Opendigitalradio lists a few:
http://wiki.opendigitalradio.org/DAB_reception

Did you have a look at them? welle.io, in particular, seems to be interesting 
in that context.
Maybe you could reuse (some of) their code and mainly integrate it into GNU 
Radio.

Best,
Bastian





On 18 Mar 2017, at 15:59, Luca Schmid  wrote:

Hi everyone,
my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of electrical 
engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the Communications 
Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.

I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project. It 
would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me some 
feedback.
You can find the draft proposal on my GitHub: 
https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal

Thanks and Regards
Luca



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Moritz Luca Schmid]

Hi Matthias,

thanks for your offer! I checked out ODR-mmbTools and the github page - 
really impressing work!


I will gladly get back to you, when I have questions about DAB details 
or your implementation.



Regards,

Luca


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Hi Moritz,

very cool GSoC subject! I'm maintaining the open-source DAB+
transmission toolchain ODR-mmbTools [1] that is used in production
deployments in several countries. Very happy to see that someone will
work on extending gr-dab and pursuing the work that Andreas has done!

Don't hesitate to get in touch with me or with other people from
Opendigitalradio if you have DAB-specific questions!

Wishing you a successful start of the GSoC,

mpb


[1]
http://www.opendigitalradio.org

On 18/03/17 15:59, Luca Schmid wrote:

Hi everyone,
my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of
electrical engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the
Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.

I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project.
It would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me
some feedback.
You can find the draft proposal on my
GitHub:https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal

Thanks and Regards
Luca


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Bastian Bloessl]

Hi Luca,

great proposal.

Apart from gr-dab, there seem to be several other DAB implementations. 
Opendigitalradio lists a few:
http://wiki.opendigitalradio.org/DAB_reception

Did you have a look at them? welle.io, in particular, seems to be interesting 
in that context.
Maybe you could reuse (some of) their code and mainly integrate it into GNU 
Radio.

Best,
Bastian




> On 18 Mar 2017, at 15:59, Luca Schmid  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of electrical 
> engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the Communications 
> Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.
> 
> I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project. It 
> would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me some 
> feedback.
> You can find the draft proposal on my GitHub: 
> https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Luca


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Matthias Brändli]

Hi Moritz,

very cool GSoC subject! I'm maintaining the open-source DAB+
transmission toolchain ODR-mmbTools [1] that is used in production
deployments in several countries. Very happy to see that someone will
work on extending gr-dab and pursuing the work that Andreas has done!

Don't hesitate to get in touch with me or with other people from
Opendigitalradio if you have DAB-specific questions!

Wishing you a successful start of the GSoC,

mpb


[1]
http://www.opendigitalradio.org

On 18/03/17 15:59, Luca Schmid wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of
> electrical engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the
> Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.
> 
> I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project.
> It would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me
> some feedback.
> You can find the draft proposal on my
> GitHub: https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Luca
> 
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[Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Benny Alexandar]

Hi Luca,


Good proposal to see you are planning to add audio coding/decoding into the 
module.

Please add a synchronization method to synchronize the received audio with 
transmitter audio clock.


Let me know if you need any details.


-ben
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Martin Braun]

...and where are you planning to publish your own branches?

-- M

On 03/18/2017 06:07 PM, Martin Braun wrote:
> Hi Luca,
> 
> pretty good proposal! You have a bunch of typos, I would recommend
> fixing them in order to make a better impression.
> 
> You mention you'll be working off of an existing OOT by another author
> -- did you contact him beforehand? And are you planning to upstream your
> contributions to the existing gr-dab?
> 
> -- M
> 
> 
> On 03/18/2017 07:59 AM, Luca Schmid wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of
>> electrical engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the
>> Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.
>>
>> I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project.
>> It would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me
>> some feedback.
>> You can find the draft proposal on my
>> GitHub: https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Luca
>>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Martin Braun]

Hi Luca,

pretty good proposal! You have a bunch of typos, I would recommend
fixing them in order to make a better impression.

You mention you'll be working off of an existing OOT by another author
-- did you contact him beforehand? And are you planning to upstream your
contributions to the existing gr-dab?

-- M


On 03/18/2017 07:59 AM, Luca Schmid wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of
> electrical engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the
> Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.
> 
> I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project.
> It would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me
> some feedback.
> You can find the draft proposal on my
> GitHub: https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Luca
> 
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[Discuss-gnuradio] [GSoC] A DAB/DAB+ transceiver app: Draft of proposal

[Luca Schmid]

Hi everyone,
my name is Moritz Luca Schmid and I am a third-year student of electrical
engineering at KIT. I also work as an assistant at the Communications
Engineering Lab (CEL) in Karlsruhe.

I am going to propose for the GSoC 17 DAB/DAB+ transceiver app project. It
would be very kind of you to take a look at my proposal and give me some
feedback.
You can find the draft proposal on my GitHub:
https://github.com/MoritzLucaSchmid/GSoC-proposal

Thanks and Regards
Luca
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