Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Hi, Since we are discussing DW Eclipse, I wanted to ask this question. In DW when you have site configured and open a file, the full path is shown on the top i.e. Macromedia DW 8 - \\10.10.10.2\wwwroot\Proj1\a.cfm, but in Eclipse you have to hover over the tab of the open file and it doesnt give you the detailed info. Is there anyway to make eclipse show the full path on the very top where it says CFEclipse - Filename -Eclipse SDK? One cool feature in Eclipse is that you could double click the tab of the open file you want to work with and it hides all the other views/windows. When you are done you can double click the tab again and you can see other views/windows. In DW you have to manually hide other views/windows. Ajas Mohammed. On 1/29/07, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, I have forgotten haven't I? Sorry about that MC. Similar to MGD Draft and MDG Lite, there is MCG Amber, which has a light stature with a bold amber style. I will try not to botch up the name next time. =) Teddy On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *cough* MARY-CATHERINE *cough* (I thought you were smart enough for this one Teddy) Seeing how I have completely mucked up my Eclipse install at the moment, I cannot verify. But there are more important points in this email. mcg *Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/29/2007 10:26 AM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Mary, When you click the Background button under the CFEclipse CFML Colours, you get the standard colors associated with your operating system. If you would like to have a custom color, you click Define Custom Colors. As I am sure you know, it is based upon RGB, which translates every web safe octet like 0, 51,102,153, 204 and 255. So, there is no problem changing the background color to black which would be R:0 G:0 B:0 Teddy On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to #00 for the background mcg *Shifang (Frank) Sun * [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/29/2007 09:05 AM Please respond to* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org To [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Eclipse does allow you to change the background color. On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW. Eclipse has some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I haven't gone searching). I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an easier interface. I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier than there. A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier on the eyes). As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of reasons this app is being rewritten)! mcg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2007 03:47 PM Please respond to* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org To [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It may be an issue with the plugin. If you want to test it out though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the middle of the page. You could type three lines of code and then watch it come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later! It's insane. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW. Eclipse has some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I haven't gone searching). I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an easier interface. I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier than there. A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier on the eyes). As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of reasons this app is being rewritten)! mcg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2007 03:47 PM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It may be an issue with the plugin. If you want to test it out though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the middle of the page. You could type three lines of code and then watch it come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later! It's insane. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the eyes when compared to DW's appearance. This remark is based of how code looks in IDE and has nothing to do with fancy stuff. 3) Lot of plugin options. There is another tool which gives TortoiseSVN features in eclipse. I dont want to write it here as we are already discussing that in other thread. Bottom line, I use both. Of late I have been using DW only. But if you want to use Subversion commands
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Mary, Click the following for background change: Window Preferences CFEclipse CFML Colours You will see background at the bottom. Those crazy brits and their spelling. =) Cheers, Teddy On 1/29/07, Shifang (Frank) Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eclipse does allow you to change the background color. On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW. Eclipse has some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I haven't gone searching). I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an easier interface. I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier than there. A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier on the eyes). As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of reasons this app is being rewritten)! mcg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2007 03:47 PM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It may be an issue with the plugin. If you want to test it out though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the middle of the page. You could type three lines of code and then watch it come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later! It's insane. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Personally, I like eclipse because it supports CF, Java, ActionScript, etc. It nice to have one tool that supports so many different languages. I also use DW frequently... John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2007 01:38 PM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box From a purely coding side of things, I would think the majority of people would vote for Eclipse. Now, that isn't to say DW doesn't have it's place, but I think it's more on the design side. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It would seem that Teddy's CFEclipse and my Subversion questions are all heading towards the ultimate question. Not to start a flame war but. What is the best IDE for: CF, HTML, CSS, JS in a windows environment While also answering the question of what is the best version for a NOOB to work with some sort of Subversion? Ajas had great stuff about SVN and seems that Eclipse with TortoiseSVN would be great. It is also eluded to that Eclipse is not HTML, CSS, JS friendly. Pros, Cons, and workarounds please... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Mary, When you click the Background button under the CFEclipse CFML Colours, you get the standard colors associated with your operating system. If you would like to have a custom color, you click Define Custom Colors. As I am sure you know, it is based upon RGB, which translates every web safe octet like 0, 51,102,153, 204 and 255. So, there is no problem changing the background color to black which would be R:0 G:0 B:0 Teddy On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to #00 for the background mcg *Shifang (Frank) Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/29/2007 09:05 AM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Eclipse does allow you to change the background color. On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] *[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW. Eclipse has some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I haven't gone searching). I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an easier interface. I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier than there. A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier on the eyes). As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of reasons this app is being rewritten)! mcg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2007 03:47 PM Please respond to* [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org To [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It may be an issue with the plugin. If you want to test it out though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the middle of the page. You could type three lines of code and then watch it come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later! It's insane. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:* [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:* [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point
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*cough* MARY-CATHERINE *cough* (I thought you were smart enough for this one Teddy) Seeing how I have completely mucked up my Eclipse install at the moment, I cannot verify. But there are more important points in this email. mcg Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/29/2007 10:26 AM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Mary, When you click the Background button under the CFEclipse CFML Colours, you get the standard colors associated with your operating system. If you would like to have a custom color, you click Define Custom Colors. As I am sure you know, it is based upon RGB, which translates every web safe octet like 0, 51,102,153, 204 and 255. So, there is no problem changing the background color to black which would be R:0 G:0 B:0 Teddy On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to #00 for the background mcg Shifang (Frank) Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/29/2007 09:05 AM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Eclipse does allow you to change the background color. On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW. Eclipse has some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I haven't gone searching). I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an easier interface. I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier than there. A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier on the eyes). As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of reasons this app is being rewritten)! mcg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2007 03:47 PM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It may be an issue with the plugin. If you want to test it out though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the middle of the page. You could type three lines of code and then watch it come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later! It's insane. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW
[ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
It would seem that Teddy's CFEclipse and my Subversion questions are all heading towards the ultimate question. Not to start a flame war but. What is the best IDE for: CF, HTML, CSS, JS in a windows environment While also answering the question of what is the best version for a NOOB to work with some sort of Subversion? Ajas had great stuff about SVN and seems that Eclipse with TortoiseSVN would be great. It is also eluded to that Eclipse is not HTML, CSS, JS friendly. Pros, Cons, and workarounds please... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plusfor me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the eyes when compared to DW's appearance. This remark is based of how code looks in IDE and has nothing to do with fancy stuff. 3) Lot of plugin options. There is another tool which gives TortoiseSVN features in eclipse. I dont want to write it here as we are already discussing that in other thread. Bottom line, I use both. Of late I have been using DW only. But if you want to use Subversion commands in IDE, then Eclipse is by far the best option. Anyone who would like to add or comment on my post is more than welcome. I want to see ppl's opinion when it comes to there favourite editors. Ajas Mohammed. On 1/26/07, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you said windows but I have to chime in... if your on a mac. I like textmate... lean and consise. On 1/26/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a purely coding side of things, I would think the majority of people would vote for Eclipse. Now, that isn't to say DW doesn't have it's place, but I think it's more on the design side. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It would seem that Teddy's CFEclipse and my Subversion questions are all heading towards the ultimate question. Not to start a flame war but. What is the best IDE for: CF, HTML, CSS, JS in a windows environment While also answering the question of what is the best version for a NOOB to work with some sort of Subversion? Ajas had great stuff about SVN and seems that Eclipse with TortoiseSVN would be great. It is also eluded to that Eclipse is not HTML, CSS, JS friendly. Pros, Cons, and workarounds please... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- Steven Ross web application interface developer http://www.zerium.com [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] 267-482-4364 - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the eyes when compared to DW's appearance. This remark is based of how code looks in IDE and has nothing to do with fancy stuff. 3) Lot of plugin options. There is another tool which gives TortoiseSVN features in eclipse. I dont want to write it here as we are already discussing that in other thread. Bottom line, I use both. Of late I have been using DW only. But if you want to use Subversion commands in IDE, then Eclipse is by far the best option. Anyone who would like to add or comment on my post is more than welcome. I want to see ppl's opinion when it comes to there favourite editors. Ajas Mohammed. On 1/26/07, Steven Ross mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you said windows but I have to chime in... if your on a mac. I like textmate... lean and consise. On 1/26/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a purely coding side of things, I would think the majority of people would vote for Eclipse. Now, that isn't to say DW doesn't have it's place, but I think it's more on the design side. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It would seem that Teddy's CFEclipse and my Subversion questions are all heading towards the ultimate question. Not to start a flame war but. What is the best IDE for: CF, HTML, CSS, JS in a windows environment While also answering the question of what is the best version for a NOOB to work with some sort of Subversion? Ajas had great stuff about SVN and seems that Eclipse with TortoiseSVN would be great. It is also eluded to that Eclipse is not HTML, CSS, JS friendly. Pros, Cons, and workarounds please... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 www.motorcyclecarbs.com http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
The best CF IDE of all time? Homesite+, formerly known as CFStudio. I have 30 files open in it right now and it's chewing on all of 25M of RAM, including 10+ years of user-defined keyboard shortcuts and snippets. Yee-ha! mf From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:33 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the eyes when compared to DW's appearance. This remark is based of how code looks in IDE and has nothing to do with fancy stuff. 3) Lot of plugin options. There is another tool which gives TortoiseSVN features in eclipse. I dont want to write it here as we are already discussing that in other thread. Bottom line, I use both. Of late I have been using DW only. But if you want to use Subversion commands in IDE, then Eclipse is by far the best option. Anyone who would like to add or comment on my post is more than welcome. I want to see ppl's opinion when it comes to there favourite editors. Ajas Mohammed. On 1/26/07, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you said windows but I have to chime in... if your on a mac. I like textmate... lean and consise. On 1/26/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a purely coding side of things, I would think the majority of people would vote for Eclipse. Now, that isn't to say DW doesn't have it's place, but I think it's more on the design side. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It would seem that Teddy's CFEclipse and my Subversion questions are all heading towards the ultimate question
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the eyes when compared to DW's appearance. This remark is based of how code looks in IDE and has nothing to do with fancy stuff. 3) Lot of plugin options. There is another tool which gives TortoiseSVN features in eclipse. I dont want to write it here as we are already discussing that in other thread. Bottom line, I use both. Of late I have been using DW only. But if you want to use Subversion commands in IDE, then Eclipse is by far the best option. Anyone who would like to add or comment on my post is more than welcome. I want to see ppl's opinion when it comes to there favourite editors. Ajas Mohammed. On 1/26/07, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you said windows but I have to chime in... if your on a mac. I like textmate... lean and consise. On 1/26/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a purely coding side of things, I would think the majority of people would vote for Eclipse. Now, that isn't to say DW doesn't have it's place, but I think it's more on the design side. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box It would seem that Teddy's CFEclipse and my Subversion questions are all heading towards the ultimate question. Not to start a flame war but. What is the best IDE for: CF, HTML, CSS, JS in a windows environment While also answering the question of what is the best version for a NOOB to work with some sort of Subversion? Ajas had great stuff about SVN and seems that Eclipse with TortoiseSVN would be great. It is also eluded to that Eclipse is not HTML, CSS, JS friendly. Pros, Cons, and workarounds please... Robert P. Reil Managing Director, Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
It may be an issue with the plugin. If you want to test it out though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the middle of the page. You could type three lines of code and then watch it come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later! It's insane. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on large files? I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects... Could it be an issue with the plugin? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only by the peoples' willingness to contest them --John Perry Barlow On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Briefly... The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can synchronize files between the local machine and a server very easily. Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but they've never seemed to work (at all). Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below, but it's a resource hog. If you're low on memory you should probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly a light-weight either! One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO SLOW... But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of eclipse - it's free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own taste preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to do design as well write code. Personally, I use both DW Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it. Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like 1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have lots of files open and I always like to go back forth between 2 open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in Eclipse. 2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the eyes when compared to DW's appearance. This remark is based of how code looks in IDE and has nothing to do with fancy stuff. 3) Lot of plugin options. There is another tool which gives TortoiseSVN features in eclipse. I dont want to write it here as we are already discussing that in other thread. Bottom line, I use both. Of late I have been using DW only. But if you want to use Subversion commands in IDE, then Eclipse is by far the best option. Anyone who would like to add or comment on my post is more than welcome. I want to see ppl's opinion when it comes to there favourite editors. Ajas Mohammed. On 1/26/07, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you said windows but I have to chime in... if your on a mac. I like textmate... lean and consise. On 1/26/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a purely coding side of things, I would think the majority of people would vote for Eclipse. Now, that isn't to say DW doesn't have it's place, but I think it's more on the design side. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my
