Re: Can we move the activity on this list to the Forum now?

[Carlton Gibson]

I'm trying to begin new conversations there where I can.

The main issue is that we're still pointing people here from Trac and the
Triage Workflow docs — so if there's a rough "Yeah, let's do it" we can
adjust practice there.

I expect there will always be the "How do I start?" posts. The Forum at
least has a pinned post for that. ...

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 01:04, 'Kye Russell' via Django developers
(Contributions to Django itself)  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I find that the signal-to-noise ratio on this mailing list is (by my
> determination) quite bad around this time of year.
>
> Is a move to the forum still on the cards?
>
> Kye
> On 6 Dec 2022 at 7:16 AM +0800, Andrew Godwin ,
> wrote:
>
> I did some investigation of moving django-users and django-developers to
> the Forum right after DjangoCon; I wanted to see if we could import all the
> old posts too, which we probably could, but I'm not entirely sure of the
> utility of that.
>
> I will say that the forum is a lot easier to moderate - the ability to
> moderate after a post has gone out, rather than gating all posts behind
> approval if they're untrusted, is a big step in itself, not to mention the
> ability to remove sensitive or offensive content once it's posted.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:01:17 PM UTC-7 m...@kye.id.au wrote:
>
>> IMO django-announce and django-updates serve a very different purpose and
>> I would be against moving them if it were suggested.
>>
>> I am incredibly strongly in favour of moving django-developers and
>> django-users to the forums. IMO being able to more easily trap people
>> misusing this list as a tech support channel is itself reason enough to
>> move. Beyond that, I’d argue that the plentiful UX issues with Google
>> Groups, and mailing lists in general, certainly don’t do the community any
>> favours in terms of getting more people on board.
>>
>> Kye
>> On 28 Nov 2022 at 11:40 PM +0800, 'Tobias McNulty' via Django developers
>> (Contributions to Django itself) , wrote:
>>
>> As someone who only just joined the forum -- I'm +1:
>>
>>- The forum has seen great adoption from what I can tell (nearly half
>>the number of posts as django-developers during the same time period, not
>>bad given the mailing list's head start in subscribers).
>>- It seems beneficial to house future conversations in a single
>>place, e.g., so members don't need to subscribe to both the mailing list
>>and forum to get the full picture of current active development, set up 
>> two
>>different sets of mail filters to tag things appropriately, etc...
>>
>> Would the plan be to switch django-users as well? I think similar
>> arguments could be made for consolidating those...
>>
>> (On the other hand, I see little value in switching django-announce and
>> django-updates, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it either, especially if
>> there's a way to import the subscribers to those lists...)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> *Tobias McNulty*Chief Executive Officer
>>
>> tob...@caktusgroup.com
>> www.caktusgroup.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 9:05 AM Carlton Gibson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Roger,
>>>
>>> Indeed it does. You can set up Email Mode (that may not be the actual
>>> name) and it’ll work just like a mailing list.
>>>
>>> You can also subscribe to just a particular category, so the Internals
>>> one would map to the discussion on this list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022, Roger Gammans 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi

 I can't speak for others, but I personally STRONGLY value the fact that
 this discussion happens in my inbox, not on yet another website.

 But perhaps the forum still supports this reading mode?

 On Mon, 2022-11-28 at 05:38 -0800, Carlton Gibson wrote:

 Hi all.

 Given the issues with Tom's access to the mailing list here, and the
 fact that the Forum has been active for a few years now, and is a great
 success, I'd like to revisit whether we can move on-mass (all few of us :)
 over there?

 We'd enjoy the benefits of a much nicer system. We'd not have issues
 such as the current, and we'd be one less item in the pocket of a
 mega-corp. (You can rank those as you will :)

 Initially when this can up (a long time ago) Andrew and Tom discussed
 whether we could import the history here into the forum. I think that's
 unnecessary. We can still access the history here (until such a day as
 Google takes it away) at worst -- but, rather, if we can get an archive we
 could import it into read-only Datasette instance[0] — and that would
 likely be good enough.

 Can we move now?

 Thanks.

 Kind Regards,

 Carlton


 [0]: I'd happily do this.

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Re: Can we move the activity on this list to the Forum now?

['Kye Russell' via Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)]

Hi all,

I find that the signal-to-noise ratio on this mailing list is (by my 
determination) quite bad around this time of year.

Is a move to the forum still on the cards?

Kye
On 6 Dec 2022 at 7:16 AM +0800, Andrew Godwin , wrote:
> I did some investigation of moving django-users and django-developers to the 
> Forum right after DjangoCon; I wanted to see if we could import all the old 
> posts too, which we probably could, but I'm not entirely sure of the utility 
> of that.
>
> I will say that the forum is a lot easier to moderate - the ability to 
> moderate after a post has gone out, rather than gating all posts behind 
> approval if they're untrusted, is a big step in itself, not to mention the 
> ability to remove sensitive or offensive content once it's posted.
>
> Andrew
>
> > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:01:17 PM UTC-7 m...@kye.id.au wrote:
> > > IMO django-announce and django-updates serve a very different purpose and 
> > > I would be against moving them if it were suggested.
> > >
> > > I am incredibly strongly in favour of moving django-developers and 
> > > django-users to the forums. IMO being able to more easily trap people 
> > > misusing this list as a tech support channel is itself reason enough to 
> > > move. Beyond that, I’d argue that the plentiful UX issues with Google 
> > > Groups, and mailing lists in general, certainly don’t do the community 
> > > any favours in terms of getting more people on board.
> > >
> > > Kye
> > > On 28 Nov 2022 at 11:40 PM +0800, 'Tobias McNulty' via Django developers 
> > > (Contributions to Django itself) , wrote:
> > > > As someone who only just joined the forum -- I'm +1:
> > > >
> > > > • The forum has seen great adoption from what I can tell (nearly half 
> > > > the number of posts as django-developers during the same time period, 
> > > > not bad given the mailing list's head start in subscribers).
> > > > • It seems beneficial to house future conversations in a single place, 
> > > > e.g., so members don't need to subscribe to both the mailing list and 
> > > > forum to get the full picture of current active development, set up two 
> > > > different sets of mail filters to tag things appropriately, etc...
> > > >
> > > > Would the plan be to switch django-users as well? I think similar 
> > > > arguments could be made for consolidating those...
> > > >
> > > > (On the other hand, I see little value in switching django-announce and 
> > > > django-updates, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it either, 
> > > > especially if there's a way to import the subscribers to those lists...)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Tobias McNulty
> > > > Chief Executive Officer
> > > > tob...@caktusgroup.com
> > > > www.caktusgroup.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 9:05 AM Carlton Gibson  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Roger,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Indeed it does. You can set up Email Mode (that may not be the 
> > > > > > actual name) and it’ll work just like a mailing list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can also subscribe to just a particular category, so the 
> > > > > > Internals one would map to the discussion on this list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, 28 November 2022, Roger Gammans 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can't speak for others, but I personally STRONGLY value the 
> > > > > > > fact that this discussion happens in my inbox, not on yet another 
> > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But perhaps the forum still supports this reading mode?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 2022-11-28 at 05:38 -0800, Carlton Gibson wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Given the issues with Tom's access to the mailing list here, 
> > > > > > > > and the fact that the Forum has been active for a few years 
> > > > > > > > now, and is a great success, I'd like to revisit whether we can 
> > > > > > > > move on-mass (all few of us :) over there?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We'd enjoy the benefits of a much nicer system. We'd not have 
> > > > > > > > issues such as the current, and we'd be one less item in the 
> > > > > > > > pocket of a mega-corp. (You can rank those as you will :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Initially when this can up (a long time ago) Andrew and Tom 
> > > > > > > > discussed whether we could import the history here into the 
> > > > > > > > forum. I think that's unnecessary. We can still access the 
> > > > > > > > history here (until such a day as Google takes it away) at 
> > > > > > > > worst -- but, rather, if we can get an archive we could import 
> > > > > > > > it into read-only Datasette instance[0] — and that would likely 
> > > > > > > > be good enough.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can we move now?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Carlton
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [0]: I'd happily 

Re: Request for Guidance

[Shai Berger]

Hello,

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 21:55:11 +0530
"'12_Gairick Dam' via Django developers  (Contributions to Django
itself)"  wrote:

> Hello please suggest me some easy good first issues to contribute
> 

The Django issue tracker has tickets marked as "Easy pickings".

You can see the search for them here:
https://code.djangoproject.com/query?status=assigned=new=1=1=id

For further guidance and advice, I think you may find the Django Forum
(at https://forum.djangoproject.com/ ) more helpful.

Welcome aboard, and have fun,

Shai.

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Re: Request for Guidance

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Hello please suggest me some easy good first issues to contribute
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Re: Proposal for a "RegExpMatches" PostgreSQL ORM function

[Niccolò Mineo]

Okido, sorry about that.

Il giorno martedì 17 gennaio 2023 alle 19:06:05 UTC+1 timog...@gmail.com ha 
scritto:

> Hi, please consolidate your proposal when your ideas are complete. There's 
> no need to start a separate thread for every function. Also, please search 
> this mailing list and ticket tracker for past discussions that might be 
> relevant. A quick search turned up at least 
> https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/jHhzEmZk4xE/m/_EErl1GGDAAJ 
> and https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28805 (Add database functions 
> for regular expressions, e.g. RegexpReplace) which duplicates this 
> proposal.
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:41:26 AM UTC-5 niccol...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> How would you see adding the "REGEXP_MATCHES" function to the current set 
>> of PostgreSQL ORM functions?
>>
>

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