Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Federico Capoano]

+1 
I am assuming the deprecation is done according to the process that was 
discussed in the thread "An easier path to upgrade from one LTS release to 
another".


On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 4:53:23 PM UTC+2, James Bennett wrote:
>
> There's not much to this, really, except what's in the subject line of 
> this message.
>
> The problem of providing a single-file, no-build-step format for 
> distributing and installing Python packages has been solved by wheels, and 
> wheels also don't cause the pile of weirdness that comes with using eggs.
>
> So Django should really stop encouraging/supporting the use of eggs. At a 
> minimum, this should involve Django 1.9 starting the deprecation process 
> for the egg template loader, and any other parts of Django which contain 
> special-case workarounds to deal with eggs.
>

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Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Curtis Maloney]

so _that's_ why I've been adding zip_safe=False to all my setups for
years :P

+1 to encouraging the world to move forward :)

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On 14 July 2015 at 10:40, Russell Keith-Magee  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
>>
>> I’m fine with this, but just be warned that it does mean anything
>> that ships a Django app will need a zip_unsafe=True or else they
>> no longer support being installed with easy_install.
>
>
> ... and I'm sure both the people who still use easy_install will be
> devastated by this. :-)
>
> Seriously - is easy_install compatibility really a thing these days? Unless
> someone can mount a case that eggs and easy_install are actively being used
> in some segment of the Django community, +1 to this.
>
> Yours,
> Russ Magee %-)
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Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Russell Keith-Magee]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:

> I’m fine with this, but just be warned that it does mean anything
> that ships a Django app will need a zip_unsafe=True or else they
> no longer support being installed with easy_install.


... and I'm sure both the people who still use easy_install will be
devastated by this. :-)

Seriously - is easy_install compatibility really a thing these days? Unless
someone can mount a case that eggs and easy_install are actively being used
in some segment of the Django community, +1 to this.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Tim Graham]

Created ticket: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/25120#ticket

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 11:01:08 AM UTC-4, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> I’m fine with this, but just be warned that it does mean anything 
> that ships a Django app will need a zip_unsafe=True or else they 
> no longer support being installed with easy_install. 
>
> On July 12, 2015 at 10:53:20 AM, James Bennett (ubern...@gmail.com 
> ) wrote: 
> > There's not much to this, really, except what's in the subject line of 
> this 
> > message. 
> >   
> > The problem of providing a single-file, no-build-step format for 
> > distributing and installing Python packages has been solved by wheels, 
> and 
> > wheels also don't cause the pile of weirdness that comes with using 
> eggs. 
> >   
> > So Django should really stop encouraging/supporting the use of eggs. At 
> a 
> > minimum, this should involve Django 1.9 starting the deprecation process 
> > for the egg template loader, and any other parts of Django which contain 
> > special-case workarounds to deal with eggs. 
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Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Donald Stufft]

I’m fine with this, but just be warned that it does mean anything
that ships a Django app will need a zip_unsafe=True or else they
no longer support being installed with easy_install.

On July 12, 2015 at 10:53:20 AM, James Bennett (ubernost...@gmail.com) wrote:
> There's not much to this, really, except what's in the subject line of this
> message.
>  
> The problem of providing a single-file, no-build-step format for
> distributing and installing Python packages has been solved by wheels, and
> wheels also don't cause the pile of weirdness that comes with using eggs.
>  
> So Django should really stop encouraging/supporting the use of eggs. At a
> minimum, this should involve Django 1.9 starting the deprecation process
> for the egg template loader, and any other parts of Django which contain
> special-case workarounds to deal with eggs.
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Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Preston Timmons]

+1. Eggs have reached the point of obsolescence.

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Re: Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[Marc Tamlyn]

+1

On 12 July 2015 at 15:53, James Bennett  wrote:

> There's not much to this, really, except what's in the subject line of
> this message.
>
> The problem of providing a single-file, no-build-step format for
> distributing and installing Python packages has been solved by wheels, and
> wheels also don't cause the pile of weirdness that comes with using eggs.
>
> So Django should really stop encouraging/supporting the use of eggs. At a
> minimum, this should involve Django 1.9 starting the deprecation process
> for the egg template loader, and any other parts of Django which contain
> special-case workarounds to deal with eggs.
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Proposal: deprecate and remove egg template loader

[James Bennett]

There's not much to this, really, except what's in the subject line of this
message.

The problem of providing a single-file, no-build-step format for
distributing and installing Python packages has been solved by wheels, and
wheels also don't cause the pile of weirdness that comes with using eggs.

So Django should really stop encouraging/supporting the use of eggs. At a
minimum, this should involve Django 1.9 starting the deprecation process
for the egg template loader, and any other parts of Django which contain
special-case workarounds to deal with eggs.

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