Re: Proposal: Adding UI and UX fields to Trac

[Gabriel Hurley]

A single flag for "UI/UX" would be my first choice, with just "UI" being 
second. Differentiating the two isn't going to produce a lot of useful 
information at this juncture. Certainly fine with me to go ahead and add 
something for it, though.

- Gabriel

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Re: Proposal: Adding UI and UX fields to Trac

[Alex Gaynor]

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Idan Gazit  wrote:

> UI: "The sorting icon is ugly."
> UX: "Sorting is confusing."
>
> That being said, I agree that most people won't be able to make the
> distinction.
>
> I'd say that we should just add a single boolean flag. I don't want to call
> it "Design" so as not to confuse people with DDN tickets. "UI/UX"?
> "DesignHelp"? I'd be happy with any of these.
>
> Again, my practical goal is to having something I can use to filter trac,
> and a visible signal to non-code contributors that we desire their
> involvement.
>
> -I
>
> On Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Julien Phalip wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:25 am, Luke Plant 
> wrote:
> > > On 07/06/11 11:32, Idan Gazit wrote:
> > > > I'd like to propose adding two flags to Trac, "UI" and "UX".
> > > So would it be better to have just "UI/UX"?
> >
> > I totally agree that Trac needs something specific for this, as it's a
> > shame we have to remove admin-related tickets from the contrib.admin
> > component.
> >
> > I also agree with Luke that having two different fields could be
> > confusing. UX encompasses UI so both are not completely orthogonal
> > from each other. How about a single "User experience" flag? Or maybe
> > something more explicitly targeted to the end goal, like a "Needs
> > designer's talents" flag?
> >
> > Julien
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How about "UI related" I think for most people (myself included) UI will
clearly indicate all of this stuff.

Alex

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Re: Proposal: Adding UI and UX fields to Trac

[Idan Gazit]

UI: "The sorting icon is ugly."
UX: "Sorting is confusing."

That being said, I agree that most people won't be able to make the distinction.

I'd say that we should just add a single boolean flag. I don't want to call it 
"Design" so as not to confuse people with DDN tickets. "UI/UX"? "DesignHelp"? 
I'd be happy with any of these.

Again, my practical goal is to having something I can use to filter trac, and a 
visible signal to non-code contributors that we desire their involvement.

-I

On Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Julien Phalip wrote:

> On Jun 8, 12:25 am, Luke Plant  
> wrote:
> > On 07/06/11 11:32, Idan Gazit wrote:
> > > I'd like to propose adding two flags to Trac, "UI" and "UX".
> > So would it be better to have just "UI/UX"?
> 
> I totally agree that Trac needs something specific for this, as it's a
> shame we have to remove admin-related tickets from the contrib.admin
> component.
> 
> I also agree with Luke that having two different fields could be
> confusing. UX encompasses UI so both are not completely orthogonal
> from each other. How about a single "User experience" flag? Or maybe
> something more explicitly targeted to the end goal, like a "Needs
> designer's talents" flag?
> 
> Julien
> 
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Re: Proposal: Adding UI and UX fields to Trac

[Julien Phalip]

On Jun 8, 12:25 am, Luke Plant  wrote:
> On 07/06/11 11:32, Idan Gazit wrote:
> > I'd like to propose adding two flags to Trac, "UI" and "UX".
> So would it be better to have just "UI/UX"?

I totally agree that Trac needs something specific for this, as it's a
shame we have to remove admin-related tickets from the contrib.admin
component.

I also agree with Luke that having two different fields could be
confusing. UX encompasses UI so both are not completely orthogonal
from each other. How about a single "User experience" flag? Or maybe
something more explicitly targeted to the end goal, like a "Needs
designer's talents" flag?

Julien

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Re: Proposal: Adding UI and UX fields to Trac

[Luke Plant]

On 07/06/11 11:32, Idan Gazit wrote:
> Greetings, Earthlings. 
> 
> I'd like to propose adding two flags to Trac, "UI" and "UX".

Fine with me, with one query:

Is there a sharp enough distinction between these two for it to be
useful for there to be both "UI" and "UX" flags? Is the typical
contributor or bug filer going to get the right one? To be honest, I
think I would struggle. There are explanations I've found, but they
often start with things like "I often get asked the difference between
User Interface (UI) and User Experience (UX)...". There are also cases
where an issue ought be classified under both - e.g. #10092 (even though
its about docs.djangoproject.com it could just as easily be about the
admin).

So would it be better to have just "UI/UX"?

I agree with your rationales for rejecting the other approaches, BTW.

Regards,

Luke

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