Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[Andrew Godwin]

Hi all,

I am pleased to announce that this vote has passed with 5 Board members voting 
+1 and no other votes.

I will now proceed to notify the DSF Board that they must hold a vote, as is 
required by DEP 10. Either they or I will update the list with information once 
that vote has been concluded and a result reached.

Andrew

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Andrew Godwin wrote:
> Yes, I agree we can use the forum in future since it's less tied to Google.
> 
> Provided the current +5 vote carries through to the end of the voting period, 
> I will be suggesting that the Technical Board triggers the DEP 10 mechanism 
> where we move this to the membership for a vote once the DSF Board has 
> performed their vote, as it only seems appropriate.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, at 9:30 PM, 'Adam Johnson' via Django developers  
> (Contributions to Django itself) wrote:
>> +1 from me
>> 
>> And +1 to using the forum in future
>> 
>> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 00:23, charettes  wrote:
>>> +1 from me as well.
>>> 
>>> Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 08:32:01 UTC-5, carlton...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Hi All. 
 
 Tom Forbes is currently unable to post to the Google Group here, due to 
 Currently Undiagnosed Google Account Weirdness™. 
 
 For the record he's asked me to say that his vote is +1 in support of the 
 change, but I feel we should probably move voting to the forum because of 
 this. 
 
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Carlton
 
 
 On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 09:52:35 UTC+1 f.apo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> +1 from me, but I'd like to ask the wider community (ie DSF members) 
> whether they support this change.
> 
> While there has been some opposition on whether a change likes this will 
> actually change things, I think that given the overall good reception of 
> the proposal it is at least worth to try it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Florian
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 10:04:36 AM UTC+1 Mariusz Felisiak wrote:
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022* 
>> *AoE* (members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any time 
>> prior to closing of the final voting period).
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Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[Andrew Godwin]

Yes, I agree we can use the forum in future since it's less tied to Google.

Provided the current +5 vote carries through to the end of the voting period, I 
will be suggesting that the Technical Board triggers the DEP 10 mechanism where 
we move this to the membership for a vote once the DSF Board has performed 
their vote, as it only seems appropriate.

Andrew

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, at 9:30 PM, 'Adam Johnson' via Django developers  
(Contributions to Django itself) wrote:
> +1 from me
> 
> And +1 to using the forum in future
> 
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 00:23, charettes  wrote:
>> +1 from me as well.
>> 
>> Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 08:32:01 UTC-5, carlton...@gmail.com a écrit :
>>> Hi All. 
>>> 
>>> Tom Forbes is currently unable to post to the Google Group here, due to 
>>> Currently Undiagnosed Google Account Weirdness™. 
>>> 
>>> For the record he's asked me to say that his vote is +1 in support of the 
>>> change, but I feel we should probably move voting to the forum because of 
>>> this. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Carlton
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 09:52:35 UTC+1 f.apo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 +1 from me, but I'd like to ask the wider community (ie DSF members) 
 whether they support this change.
 
 While there has been some opposition on whether a change likes this will 
 actually change things, I think that given the overall good reception of 
 the proposal it is at least worth to try it.
 
 Cheers,
 Florian
 On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 10:04:36 AM UTC+1 Mariusz Felisiak wrote:
> Thanks!
> 
> Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022* 
> *AoE* (members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any time 
> prior to closing of the final voting period).
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Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

['Adam Johnson' via Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)]

+1 from me

And +1 to using the forum in future

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 00:23, charettes  wrote:

> +1 from me as well.
>
> Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 08:32:01 UTC-5, carlton...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> Hi All.
>>
>> Tom Forbes is currently unable to post to the Google Group here, due to
>> Currently Undiagnosed Google Account Weirdness™.
>>
>> For the record he's asked me to say that his vote is +1 in support of the
>> change, but I feel we should probably move voting to the forum because of
>> this.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Carlton
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 09:52:35 UTC+1 f.apo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> +1 from me, but I'd like to ask the wider community (ie DSF members)
>>> whether they support this change.
>>>
>>> While there has been some opposition on whether a change likes this will
>>> actually change things, I think that given the overall good reception of
>>> the proposal it is at least worth to try it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Florian
>>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 10:04:36 AM UTC+1 Mariusz Felisiak wrote:
>>>
 Thanks!

 Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022*
 *AoE* (members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any
 time prior to closing of the final voting period).

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Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[charettes]

+1 from me as well.

Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 08:32:01 UTC-5, carlton...@gmail.com a écrit :

> Hi All. 
>
> Tom Forbes is currently unable to post to the Google Group here, due to 
> Currently Undiagnosed Google Account Weirdness™. 
>
> For the record he's asked me to say that his vote is +1 in support of the 
> change, but I feel we should probably move voting to the forum because of 
> this. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Carlton
>
>
> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 09:52:35 UTC+1 f.apo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> +1 from me, but I'd like to ask the wider community (ie DSF members) 
>> whether they support this change.
>>
>> While there has been some opposition on whether a change likes this will 
>> actually change things, I think that given the overall good reception of 
>> the proposal it is at least worth to try it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florian
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 10:04:36 AM UTC+1 Mariusz Felisiak wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022* 
>>> *AoE* (members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any 
>>> time prior to closing of the final voting period).
>>>
>>

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Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[Carlton Gibson]

Hi All. 

Tom Forbes is currently unable to post to the Google Group here, due to 
Currently Undiagnosed Google Account Weirdness™. 

For the record he's asked me to say that his vote is +1 in support of the 
change, but I feel we should probably move voting to the forum because of 
this. 


Kind Regards,

Carlton


On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 09:52:35 UTC+1 f.apo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 from me, but I'd like to ask the wider community (ie DSF members) 
> whether they support this change.
>
> While there has been some opposition on whether a change likes this will 
> actually change things, I think that given the overall good reception of 
> the proposal it is at least worth to try it.
>
> Cheers,
> Florian
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 10:04:36 AM UTC+1 Mariusz Felisiak wrote:
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022* 
>> *AoE* (members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any time 
>> prior to closing of the final voting period).
>>
>

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Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[Florian Apolloner]

Hi,

+1 from me, but I'd like to ask the wider community (ie DSF members) 
whether they support this change.

While there has been some opposition on whether a change likes this will 
actually change things, I think that given the overall good reception of 
the proposal it is at least worth to try it.

Cheers,
Florian
On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 10:04:36 AM UTC+1 Mariusz Felisiak wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022* 
> *AoE* (members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any time 
> prior to closing of the final voting period).
>

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Re: Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[Mariusz Felisiak]

Thanks!

Reminder: according to DEP 10 voting will end on *December 2nd, 2022* *AoE* 
(members of the Technical Board may change their votes at any time prior to 
closing of the final voting period).

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Technical Board vote on DEP 0012: The Steering Council

[Andrew Godwin]

Hi all,

As it seems discussion on DEP 12 has reached its end, and we received generally 
positive feedback, I am requesting a vote from the technical board on the 
following:

"Shall we accept DEP 12 and send it to the DSF Board for further approval?"

Note that as this is a governance change, it requires a 4/5 majority from the 
Technical Board, after which it will go to the DSF Board for a vote, and after 
which it *may* go to the membership for a vote if the two Boards believe that 
it should (you can read more about these requirements in DEP 10).

You can see the text of the DEP here: 
https://github.com/django/deps/blob/main/draft/0012-steering-council.rst

My vote is +1, as I am the author of the DEP and believe it is in the best 
interests of the longevity of the Django project and sustainable governance.

Andrew

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