Re: reassessing our Operating System
Linux is linux after all. The kernel remains largely the same, unless you get a patchy distro. The choice is all about your knowledge. If you know your way around in linux, it doesn't really matters. If you're a bit *newer*, you might want to go with a distro with strong repos and a good package manager. I wouldn't even consider using Windows as a server OS. Sorry for the flames. El mar, 18-09-2007 a las 08:02 -0500, Tim Chase escribi�: > > Any special reasons debian based installs are better than > > fedora based ones? > > I can't say there should be any sort of major difference once > meta-package programs were instituted for dependency tracking. > My understanding is that Yum may do this sort of thing. > > I tried Red Hat early in the game and grew frustrated with the > "yes, RPMs install easily, but you have to track down each > dependency individually and install it first" nature of it. > However, that was 5-10 years ago (around RH v5 through v8)...I've > just never tried an RPM-based distro since then. If I wanted > dependency-tracking headaches, I'd build everything from source :) > > As long as you can tell your distro "install these things I care > about and install any requisite dependencies you might need to in > order to get there", it doesn't really matter. > > -tim > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
On 19-Sep-07, at 12:38 AM, Chris Brand wrote: >> and one to run django on. (I believe I had to run 2.3 and 2.5) It can >> make configuration for deployment to be a bit of a pain. > I've had no such problems with my Fedora Core 6 box. Just installed > everything using yum and it worked fine. I think it uses python 2.4.4 > throughout. but if you want to use 2.5 for django, you *must* retain 2.4.4 also -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
We use RHEL4 in our datacenter. I've used ubuntu, debian and CentOS 5 on development servers. Choice of Redhat was based on what other boxes were running on before I arrived. I do indeed need to install separate packages for python and postgresql. So far it's been near zero maintenance after setting things up. I don't update automatically but do it manually when I receive alerts but I could probably update via the update demon. Out of curiousity: Is anyone using vmware or zen to containerize (is that a word?) their django deployments? On Sep 18, 12:08 pm, Chris Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Justin Lilly wrote: > > Actually there is a reason why debian based OS's are preferred (in my > > opinion). Having installed Django on CentOS, I found that you have to > > run two concurrent versions of python. One for the OS and its tools > > and one to run django on. (I believe I had to run 2.3 and 2.5) It can > > make configuration for deployment to be a bit of a pain. > > I've had no such problems with my Fedora Core 6 box. Just installed > everything using yum and it worked fine. I think it uses python 2.4.4 > throughout. > > Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
Justin Lilly wrote: > Actually there is a reason why debian based OS's are preferred (in my > opinion). Having installed Django on CentOS, I found that you have to > run two concurrent versions of python. One for the OS and its tools > and one to run django on. (I believe I had to run 2.3 and 2.5) It can > make configuration for deployment to be a bit of a pain. I've had no such problems with my Fedora Core 6 box. Just installed everything using yum and it worked fine. I think it uses python 2.4.4 throughout. Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
Actually there is a reason why debian based OS's are preferred (in my opinion). Having installed Django on CentOS, I found that you have to run two concurrent versions of python. One for the OS and its tools and one to run django on. (I believe I had to run 2.3 and 2.5) It can make configuration for deployment to be a bit of a pain. Hope it helps, -justin On 9/18/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 18-Sep-07, at 4:32 PM, shabda wrote: > > > Any special reasons debian based installs are better than fedora based > > ones? > > lets not start distro wars here. It is all a matter of individual > choice - any linux/bsd flavour is fine - avoid windows and OSX for > production servers. > > -- > > regards > kg > http://lawgon.livejournal.com > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > > > > > > -- Justin Lilly University of South Carolina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
> Any special reasons debian based installs are better than > fedora based ones? I can't say there should be any sort of major difference once meta-package programs were instituted for dependency tracking. My understanding is that Yum may do this sort of thing. I tried Red Hat early in the game and grew frustrated with the "yes, RPMs install easily, but you have to track down each dependency individually and install it first" nature of it. However, that was 5-10 years ago (around RH v5 through v8)...I've just never tried an RPM-based distro since then. If I wanted dependency-tracking headaches, I'd build everything from source :) As long as you can tell your distro "install these things I care about and install any requisite dependencies you might need to in order to get there", it doesn't really matter. -tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
On 18-Sep-07, at 4:32 PM, shabda wrote: > Any special reasons debian based installs are better than fedora based > ones? lets not start distro wars here. It is all a matter of individual choice - any linux/bsd flavour is fine - avoid windows and OSX for production servers. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
> (live publicly viewable sites only) > 1. What OS are you using to run Django on? OpenBSD and Debian Linux > 2. What OS do you think is most popular for running Django on? Debian and its derivatives (Ubuntu, etc...anything using apt) > 3. What OS do you think is most suited for running Django on? Debian and its derivatives > (non publicly viewable sites) > 4. What OS do you think is most suited for developing Django on? Again, I have a Debian leaning here, but any *nix-based environment gives you a good feel for what's going on. I've done testing on OS X, Debians, and a couple BSDs. Debian's apt-get does a lot of the hand-holding which makes the install very easy: you can just tell it that you want apache, mod_python, , the python libs, and PIL and it deals with the rest (where "" is PostgreSQL, MySQL, or sqlite...I haven't tried firebird). For new servers, given the option, I'd go with Debian. The process is a little more complex elsewhere: on OpenBSD, I had to build Apache2/mod_python from source as OpenBSD comes with a heavily modified version of Apache, pre-v2; on Mac OS X, I had to upgrade Python and add in all the other bits by hand. -tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reassessing our Operating System
On 18 Sep 2007, at 5:01 am, antonio von carmoducci wrote: > (live publicly viewable sites only) > 1. What OS are you using to run Django on? Debian > 2. What OS do you think is most popular for running Django on? Debian or Ubuntu, I imagine. > 3. What OS do you think is most suited for running Django on? Debian seems to work well. > (non publicly viewable sites) > 4. What OS do you think is most suited for developing Django on? I use a combination of Debian and OS X. For work, I store the files on my desktop machine and connect via ssh to run the server and nfs to edit the files using Textmate. At home, I just use OS X. Hope that's of some help. -- David Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
reassessing our Operating System
Hi Everyone. I'm looking at reassessing our Operating System of choice for our Django site, and I really need some background information (popularity & suitability mainly) If you have a minute spare I'd really appreciate some answers to the following questions: (live publicly viewable sites only) 1. What OS are you using to run Django on? 2. What OS do you think is most popular for running Django on? 3. What OS do you think is most suited for running Django on? (non publicly viewable sites) 4. What OS do you think is most suited for developing Django on? Any free form comments on choosing an OS for Django would be much appreciated! ~Love your work in advance. Carmoda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
