Re: [DMM] [E] Re: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

[Bogineni, Kalyani]

Folks:

The document is focused on compiling 3GPP requirements for potential 
replacement of GTP on N9
interface and to compare the various IETF protocols against those requirements. 
There will not be
specification development in this paper. As an operator, we would like to see 
that we utilize the best
protocols that would simplify the network and help in efficient utilization and 
operation of the networks.

There are many specifications in 3GPP (and many that are work-in-progress for 
5G). I compiled the 5G
Architecture description and requirements from many specifications from 3GPP 
SA2, CT and RAN WGs.
Please provide feedback on whether these requirements are sufficient to develop 
protocols in IETF
and to compare them.

The study in CT4 does not start till July 2018, so there is an opportunity to 
do some work in IETF and
use it in 3GPP.

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Kalyani Bogineni, Ph.D.
Fellow, Technology Architecture & Strategy
Verizon, One Verizon Way, Basking Ridge, NJ 07920
[https://www.certmetrics.com/amazon/Telerik.Web.UI.WebResource.axd?imgid=0f8b72e68d5e45f59d7683fe343f0f15=rbi]



From: Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:37 PM
To: Satoru Matsushima 
Cc: Bogineni, Kalyani ; dmm@ietf.org
Subject: [E] Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions 
for 5G

Hi dmm folks,

I think that Kalyani is going to send a revised version of the outtline not 
including the items that are not of interest in dmm group.

Regards,

Behcet

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Satoru Matsushima 
> wrote:
Hello Kalyani,

+1. White paper looks a good work to start the user-plane study here in IETF. I 
support it.

I think that comparison with quantitive measurements may need to use specific 
deployment metrics in each operator.

But through this white paper work, if we figure out clear criteria for 
apple-to-apple comparison to candidate protocols for 3GPP use cases, that would 
be greatly help to move the study forward.

Hope that make sense and work with you on it.

Cheers,
--satoru

> 2017/12/14 6:13、Bogineni, Kalyani 
> >のメール:
>
> Folks:
>
> In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose 
> that a white paper
> be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an 
> outline. Please let me
> know if you would like to contribute.
>
> Kalyani Bogineni
> Verizon
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[DMM] Fwd: New Non-WG Mailing List: ILA- Identifier Locator Addressing

[Tom Herbert]

Hello,

We'll be discussing ILA on this list and its use cases in mobility,
datacenter virtualization, and networking virtualization. ILA might be
relevant in DMM as a mobility protocol that doesn't rely on
encapsulation. Please join the list if you're interested!

Tom

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Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

[Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)]

Arashmid  - We do have regular DMM working group meeting during the IETF week. 
I guess, what you are asking for is a WG-chair scheduled conference calls? DMM 
List may be very quite, but there have been regular conf calls between authors 
of some of the WG documents. Authors of FPC host those calls regularly. For the 
new work item that Kalyani is proposing, we need to have some discussions in 
the mailer and once the document is adopted as a WG document, we can certainly 
host some calls (author/chair scheduled) on a need basis. So, the first step is 
to post comments on the documents and trigger some discussions.


Sri



From: dmm > on behalf of 
Arashmid Akhavain 
>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM
To: "Bogineni, Kalyani" 
>,
 "dmm@ietf.org" >
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Hi everyone,
Online meetings on a regular basis can perhaps help moving things forward.

Arashmid



From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: 17 January 2018 15:20
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

Here is the draft with 3GPP architecture described as much as relevant to N9 
interface.
I have extracted some diagrams from 3GPP specs and will redo them in ASCII 
after I get
some feedback on whether to include them or not in this document.

Kalyani

From: Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:14 PM
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: Bogineni, Kalyani 
>
Subject: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose that 
a white paper
be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an 
outline. Please let me
know if you would like to contribute.

Kalyani Bogineni
Verizon

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Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

[Behcet Sarikaya]

Hi dmm folks,

I think that Kalyani is going to send a revised version of the outtline not
including the items that are not of interest in dmm group.

Regards,

Behcet

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Satoru Matsushima <
satoru.matsush...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Kalyani,
>
> +1. White paper looks a good work to start the user-plane study here in
> IETF. I support it.
>
> I think that comparison with quantitive measurements may need to use
> specific deployment metrics in each operator.
>
> But through this white paper work, if we figure out clear criteria for
> apple-to-apple comparison to candidate protocols for 3GPP use cases, that
> would be greatly help to move the study forward.
>
> Hope that make sense and work with you on it.
>
> Cheers,
> --satoru
>
> > 2017/12/14 6:13、Bogineni, Kalyani  VerizonWireless.com>のメール:
> >
> > Folks:
> >
> > In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we
> propose that a white paper
> > be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is
> an outline. Please let me
> > know if you would like to contribute.
> >
> > Kalyani Bogineni
> > Verizon
> >
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Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

[Arashmid Akhavain]

Hi everyone,
Online meetings on a regular basis can perhaps help moving things forward.

Arashmid



From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: 17 January 2018 15:20
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

Here is the draft with 3GPP architecture described as much as relevant to N9 
interface.
I have extracted some diagrams from 3GPP specs and will redo them in ASCII 
after I get
some feedback on whether to include them or not in this document.

Kalyani

From: Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:14 PM
To: dmm@ietf.org
Cc: Bogineni, Kalyani 
>
Subject: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose that 
a white paper
be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an 
outline. Please let me
know if you would like to contribute.

Kalyani Bogineni
Verizon

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