Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here
Am 2017-03-13 22:13, schrieb Steve Litt: A bad idea, because your browser expects some sort of response. It's better to replace unwanted content with a small transparent gif. How do you do that? You can use pixelserv on some machine in your network that is always on, or simply run it on localhost. https://www.snbforums.com/threads/pixelserv-a-better-one-pixel-webserver-for-adblock.26114/ Here is a solution for Tomato routers: http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php?threads/script-clean-lean-and-mean-adblocking.68464/ Another nice adblocking solution is privoxy with the easylist filters. https://projects.zubr.me/wiki/adblock2privoxy ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports
Could we also get the later version of suckless-tools into jessie-backports for the later tabbed and demnu packages? On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:11 AM, wrote: > On 2017-03-13 09:55, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >> >>> On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote: >>> >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> > >>> >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: >>> >> >>> >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> >> >>> >>I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in >>> >>their names. >>> >> >>> >>surf >>> >>netsurf >>> >> >>> >>Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? >>> >> >>> >>Hi Hendrik, >>> >> >>> >>you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is >>> >>0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from >>> >>jessie-backports. >>> > >>> >Just noticed >>> > surf --version >>> >doesn't work. >>> > >>> >But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6. >>> > >>> >Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7. >>> > >>> >With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything >>> >automatically >>> >get upgraded to the backports version if I do >>> > aptitude update >>> > aptitude upgrade >>> >? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able >>> >to have some >>> >control over which packages I get from backports. >>> > >>> >Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports >>> >updates for >>> >everything? >>> > >>> >-- hendrik >>> > >>> >>HND >>> >> >>> >>KatolaZ >>> >> >>> >>-- >>> >>[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] >>> >>[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] >>> >>[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] >>> >>[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] >>> >>[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] >>> > >>> > Hendrik, >>> > When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated. >>> > You have to explicitly install the package you want. >>> > >>> >sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" >>> > >>> > So don't be afraid to add >>> > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main >>> > into your sources.list >>> > >>> > and have a look at >>> > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5] >>> > to set your mind at rest. >>> > >>> > DaveT >>> > >>> >>> Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet? If not >>> you'll have to do the pinning manually. >>> >>> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479 >>> >>> golinux >>> >> >> I just pinned it manually. So it looks as if the issue has not been >> fixed yet. >> Or, at least, not for a system that was installed from alpha-2 and >> continually >> upgraded since. >> >> It is a configuration file, and they sometimes don't upgrade without >> manual >> intervention. >> >> -- hendrik >> >>> >>> >>> > Also . . . don't use debian backports repos in your sources list. Use > the devuan backports: > > deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib > non-free > > golinux > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:46:05 +0100 Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > On 12/03/17 16:49, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > > Have you considered rolling your own add-blocking with a list of > > unwanted sites in /etc/hosts ? > > A bad idea, because your browser expects some sort of response. > It's better to replace unwanted content with a small transparent gif. How do you do that? SteveT Steve Litt March 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New documentation on the Surf browser
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:32:58 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:20:42PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:10:00 -0400 > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf > > > in their names. > > > > > > surf > > > netsurf > > > > > > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? > > > > Yes. The Surf I've documented is installed by the surf package. The > > more experience I get with Surf, the more I believe that the > > package should be installed only as a "hello world" exercise, but > > later uninstalled and replaced by a custom configured > > make_clean;make;make_install installation. All Suckless Tools > > software is configured by modifying the config.h file and then > > recompiling, meaning that the user can't modify any behavior the > > package bestows. > > Hi, > > I would actually suggest to recompile surf using the deb-src in the > repos. This is much cleaner, and results in a new .deb package that > can be installed and removed safely. Yeah, that'll work as long as Debian didn't mess with Suckless' source, and as long as it compiles to surf-0.7. And tabbed should compile to 0.6. You mentioned safe removal. Tabbed, Surf and Dmenu all have a "make uninstall" option that removes all their executables and shellscripts from the directories "make install" put them in. And the beauty of these installations is they contain no .so or other libraries, so for the most part uninstallation is simply the removal of executables. So whether you're the kind of person who likes making your own packages, or the kind who just wants to get down to business, these three Suckless tools are just what the doctor ordered. SteveT Steve Litt March 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Compiling Firefox on Devuan (was: Re: FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here)
On 03/13/2017 1:27 PM, devua...@gmail.com wrote:
> This doesn't work on Devuan because Python's
> platform.linux_distribution() is returning a blank stare. Anyone know
> why this is? No idea yet where Python is getting these values...
>From what I can tell, the issue is that platform.linux_distribution()
checks /etc/debian_version to get the version of the OS. In order to get it
to properly return the version it seems either the python source will have
to be patched to check for /etc/devuan_version instead OR use something
like: "platform.linux_distribution(supported_dists=('devuan'))" instead,
which does give the proper values for the system.
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[DNG] DNS Ad-Blocking (Was: FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here)
On 03/13/2017 02:46 PM, Rob van der Putten wrote: On 12/03/17 16:49, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Have you considered rolling your own add-blocking with a list of unwanted sites in /etc/hosts ? A bad idea, because your browser expects some sort of response. It's better to replace unwanted content with a small transparent gif. I run one of these on my network at home: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements https://pi-hole.net/ Patrick ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here
Hi there On 12/03/17 16:49, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Have you considered rolling your own add-blocking with a list of unwanted sites in /etc/hosts ? A bad idea, because your browser expects some sort of response. It's better to replace unwanted content with a small transparent gif. Regards, Rob ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!
On 170303-20:40-0500, Christopher Clements wrote: > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 12:03:02AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > >I haven't yet gotten to the point of using privacy I don't need > >personally, as is obvious by this unsigned email. > > I always sign my messages. Me too. > On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 10:15:21PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have > >nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free > >speech because you have nothing to say. (just: Edward Snowden, my hero, said that ;-) ) And there other people wrote to you beautifully. > > Thank you everyone for the information, and for putting things in > perspective for me. And it's so great to read that it wasn't in vain, that open to understanding. > I wish I had joined a mailing list like this 10 years ago, as Google > will never be an adequate substitute for just asking (Google is bad.) But I wanted to add another reason, unbelievable to me (I'm 60 yrs old, and we, in my youth, under communism, would never believe the Land of the Free would in the future --that has come in the meantime-- be the almost a Land of the Surveilled an Unfree. Read for yourself: ISP extorsion - how to negate / get around? https://lists.gt.net/gentoo/user/324121 Part of the initial email by Corbin Bird, for the lazy/ or unable to connect as they read: === PASTING: Have a serious problem, might cost me any Internet access. My ISP ( Charter ) merged with Time-Warner. New name "Spectrum" 1 # : Now I have intermittent connectivity. 2 # : And with the death of FCC privacy rules, the new ISP is forcing me to update their records ( for sale-of purposes ). This includes phone ( all ), SSN, bank account numbers, and credit card numbers. 3 # : the ISP attempting to force agreement to "no communications allowed with the FCC". Also is attempting to force agreement to "Arbitration with the ISP as the Arbiter" for all complaints. 4 # : billing is only online now. Not allowed to see a Account Statement, or receive any "receipt for payment" until I comply with ISP demands. 5 # : external e-mail clients ( Thunderbird, Claws-Mail, etc. ) are now starting to have problems. ISP solution -> must use their web based e-mail app only ( only works with Windoze, surprise! ). 6 # : ISP is starting to filter customers web access. The ISP is deciding what sites customers are allowed to see. ( look up the practice called "ransom" ). 7 # : no other broadband ISP in the regional area. No alternatives. They are using a hijack technique that I don't know the name of, attempting to force compliance. NOTE : The ?hijack technique? will corrupt the portage trees if you use "emerge-webrsync". Is there any way to ... fix? work-around? ... this idiocy? PASTED === Enough reason to fight control on you? But, it's not just the U.S., far from... Indeed I subscribe to what Steve Litt wrote in another email in this thread: > I'm not singling out one party or one nation: This kind of stuff is > happening all over the place. ( Steve Litt in another email ) > > -- > GPG Key: 0769 AFCF 681E F61E 2137 F4CB 5044 1726 610D 5AE0 Your key imported here. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Compiling Firefox on Devuan (was: Re: FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here)
On 03/08/2017 11:59 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> Me either and many others on this list - there have been several
> pulseaudio threads on dng over the years. But that is not the point.
> Unless FF 52 onward is recompiled with the alsa switch enabled, it will
> be unusable for most of us. So this is a heads up that someone will
> have to step forward to do this if it is not worked out upstream. Care
> to take that on?
I've compiled Firefox years ago but don't recall ever getting a
decent application. I think all I could get was a "gecko" window which
one could load with a URL with from the command line. This was probably
10 years ago however so much has probably changed.
According to the docs[1], it looks like there is a "bootstrap.py" [2]
application which must be downloaded and run in order to provision the
build environment. This doesn't work on Devuan because Python's
platform.linux_distribution() is returning a blank stare. Anyone know
why this is? No idea yet where Python is getting these values...
moz build error
--
$ python mozilla-central-default/python/mozboot/bin/bootstrap.py
*** sys.platform:linux2 distro version dist_id
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "mozilla-central-default/python/mozboot/bin/bootstrap.py", line
170, in
sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
File "mozilla-central-default/python/mozboot/bin/bootstrap.py", line
160, in main
dasboot = cls(choice=options.application_choice,
no_interactive=options.no_interactive)
File "mozilla-central-default/python/mozboot/mozboot/bootstrap.py",
line 176, in __init__
raise NotImplementedError('Bootstrap support for this Linux '
NotImplementedError: Bootstrap support for this Linux distro not yet
available.
On Devuan
--
Python 2.7.9 (default, Jun 29 2016, 13:08:31)
[GCC 4.9.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> import platform
>>> print (platform.linux_distribution()[0])
>>> print (platform.linux_distribution()[1])
On debian 8
--
Python 2.7.9 (default, Jun 29 2016, 13:08:31)
[GCC 4.9.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import platform
>>> import sys
>>> print (platform.linux_distribution()[0])
debian
>>> print (platform.linux_distribution()[1])
8.7
>>>
[1]
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Build_Instructions/Linux_Prerequisites
[2]
https://github.com/mozilla/positron/blob/master/python/mozboot/mozboot/bootstrap.py
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Re: [DNG] New documentation on the Surf browser
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:20:42PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:10:00 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in > > their names. > > > > surf > > netsurf > > > > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? > > Yes. The Surf I've documented is installed by the surf package. The more > experience I get with Surf, the more I believe that the package should > be installed only as a "hello world" exercise, but later uninstalled > and replaced by a custom configured make_clean;make;make_install > installation. All Suckless Tools software is configured by modifying > the config.h file and then recompiling, meaning that the user can't > modify any behavior the package bestows. Hi, I would actually suggest to recompile surf using the deb-src in the repos. This is much cleaner, and results in a new .deb package that can be installed and removed safely. Actually, I have already put together a minimal howto on that (thanks to one of the Devuan users on our IRC channel, who tried the steps while I was writing down the material). I should put it somewhere, maybe on dev1galaxy? It's based on surf, but most of the material can be reused to compile other packages as well. I should just polish it a bit. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 09:35:36 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Just noticed > surf --version > doesn't work. surf -v SteveT Steve Litt March 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New documentation on the Surf browser
On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:10:00 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in > their names. > > surf > netsurf > > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? Yes. The Surf I've documented is installed by the surf package. The more experience I get with Surf, the more I believe that the package should be installed only as a "hello world" exercise, but later uninstalled and replaced by a custom configured make_clean;make;make_install installation. All Suckless Tools software is configured by modifying the config.h file and then recompiling, meaning that the user can't modify any behavior the package bestows. SteveT Steve Litt March 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports
On 2017-03-13 09:55, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote: >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: >> >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >>I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in >>their names. >> >>surf >>netsurf >> >>Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? >> >>Hi Hendrik, >> >>you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is >>0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from >>jessie-backports. > >Just noticed > surf --version >doesn't work. > >But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6. > >Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7. > >With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything >automatically >get upgraded to the backports version if I do > aptitude update > aptitude upgrade >? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able >to have some >control over which packages I get from backports. > >Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports >updates for >everything? > >-- hendrik > >>HND >> >>KatolaZ >> >>-- >>[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] >>[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] >>[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] >>[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] >>[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] > > Hendrik, > When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated. > You have to explicitly install the package you want. > >sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" > > So don't be afraid to add > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main > into your sources.list > > and have a look at > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5] > to set your mind at rest. > > DaveT > Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet? If not you'll have to do the pinning manually. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479 golinux I just pinned it manually. So it looks as if the issue has not been fixed yet. Or, at least, not for a system that was installed from alpha-2 and continually upgraded since. It is a configuration file, and they sometimes don't upgrade without manual intervention. -- hendrik Also . . . don't use debian backports repos in your sources list. Use the devuan backports: deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:44:16AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote: > >On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >>On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > >> > >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> > >>I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in > >>their names. > >> > >>surf > >>netsurf > >> > >>Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? > >> > >>Hi Hendrik, > >> > >>you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is > >>0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from > >>jessie-backports. > > > >Just noticed > > surf --version > >doesn't work. > > > >But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6. > > > >Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7. > > > >With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything > >automatically > >get upgraded to the backports version if I do > > aptitude update > > aptitude upgrade > >? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able > >to have some > >control over which packages I get from backports. > > > >Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports > >updates for > >everything? > > > >-- hendrik > > > >>HND > >> > >>KatolaZ > >> > >>-- > >>[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] > >>[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] > >>[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] > >>[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] > >>[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] > > > > Hendrik, > > When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated. > > You have to explicitly install the package you want. > > > >sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" > > > > So don't be afraid to add > > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main > > into your sources.list > > > > and have a look at > > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5] > > to set your mind at rest. > > > > DaveT > > > > Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet? If not > you'll have to do the pinning manually. > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479 > > golinux I just pinned it manually. So it looks as if the issue has not been fixed yet. Or, at least, not for a system that was installed from alpha-2 and continually upgraded since. It is a configuration file, and they sometimes don't upgrade without manual intervention. -- hendrik > > > > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here
On 2017-03-13 03:59, Joachim Fahrner wrote: Am 2017-03-12 19:10, schrieb goli...@dyne.org: Can any of these alternative adblocking tools block elements within a page? AdblockPlus allows for that and I use it almost every day. What do you mean with "elements wihin a page"? Every ad is loaded through a url, and if the host of this url is blocked, the url cannot load. Regards Jochen 'Elements' are not necessarily ads but internal parts of a page that I may not want to see - sliders, footers, background images, bells and whistles etc. I nuke them all with Adblock's 'select an element to hide' feature or stylish. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports
On 2017-03-13 09:06, Dave Turner wrote: On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in their names. surf netsurf Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? Hi Hendrik, you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is 0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from jessie-backports. Just noticed surf --version doesn't work. But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6. Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7. With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything automatically get upgraded to the backports version if I do aptitude update aptitude upgrade ? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able to have some control over which packages I get from backports. Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports updates for everything? -- hendrik HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu [1] --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia [2] -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] Hendrik, When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated. You have to explicitly install the package you want. sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" So don't be afraid to add deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main into your sources.list and have a look at https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5] to set your mind at rest. DaveT Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet? If not you'll have to do the pinning manually. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports
On 13/03/17 13:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in their names. surf netsurf Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? Hi Hendrik, you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is 0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from jessie-backports. Just noticed surf --version doesn't work. But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6. Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7. With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything automatically get upgraded to the backports version if I do aptitude update aptitude upgrade ? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able to have some control over which packages I get from backports. Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports updates for everything? -- hendrik HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] Hendrik, When you use backports all packages in backports are de-activated. You have to explicitly install the package you want. |sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package"| So don't be afraid to add deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main into your sources.list and have a look at https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to set your mind at rest. DaveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] getting surf from backports
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:25:25AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in > > their names. > > > > surf > > netsurf > > > > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? > > > > Hi Hendrik, > > you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is > 0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from > jessie-backports. Just noticed surf --version doesn't work. But aptitude indeed does tell me I'm using 0.6. Looking at backports. Now have surf 0.7. With the backports lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, will everything automatically get upgraded to the backports version if I do aptitude update aptitude upgrade ? I don't see anything in /etc/apt to stop this. I'd like to be able to have some control over which packages I get from backports. Or am I better off from a security perspective to always get backports updates for everything? -- hendrik > > HND > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] > [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] > [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] > [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here
goli...@dyne.org wrote on 03/08/2017 11:33 AM: > "From Firefox 52 onwards, pulseaudio is a hard requirement for sound on > linux. Alsa is unsupported and alsa code will be removed in Firefox 54." > (from - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 47056#c178 ) Seamonkey used to be a thing: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ I thought it had been killed off years ago but seems to have had a release in December of 2016. Sound works out of the box with ALSA. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here
Am 2017-03-12 19:10, schrieb goli...@dyne.org: Can any of these alternative adblocking tools block elements within a page? AdblockPlus allows for that and I use it almost every day. What do you mean with "elements wihin a page"? Every ad is loaded through a url, and if the host of this url is blocked, the url cannot load. Regards Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New documentation on the Surf browser
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 07:10:00PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf in > their names. > > surf > netsurf > > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting? > Hi Hendrik, you should use the package "surf". The default version in jessie is 0.6, but I would warmly suggest you to get the 0.7, e.g. from jessie-backports. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
