Re: [DNG] Allwinner Olimex OLinuXino MICRO (A20) Devuan Jessie no Ethernet

2017-10-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
Sometimes, one simply stumbles upon an answer.  Checking the Olimex
forums I came afross this thread:

https://www.olimex.com/forum/index.php?topic=5839.0

the final reply by one of the Olimex employees (I presume) says thus:

The new controller has an extra pin called ETXERR, which is connected to
processor's pin C13 (PA17). When ETXERR is in high position it means
error. This line is pulled-up and this indicates error, the problem is
that the current drivers doesn't take care of ETXERR and until a better
driver gets available you'd need to set ETXERR to low position manually.

There is an easy workaround to enable the new Ethernet controller in
Armbian. Just set GPIO 17 to low position:

echo 17 > /sys/class/gpio/export
echo out > /sys/class/gpio/gpio17/direction
echo 0 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio17/value

You can edit the dtb dts definitions so that GPIO gets set to low
position each time in your image. If you don't know how to edit the dtb
dts file you can put the above three lines of code in local.rc file or
other start-up script so they would execute automatically on reboot.


I just booted the Devuan Jessie image, manually applied those commands,
ran 'ifdown eth0' then 'ifup eth0' and it worky!  I can ping, SSH into
the box, and use apt-get.  Now I just need to get those parameters set
before networking is started.

Hope this helps someone else.

- Nate

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Re: [DNG] "the more you do, the stronger your voice"

2017-10-14 Thread Narcis Garcia
What failed in Debian was the votation count method (1+1+1 < 2)


El 14/10/17 a les 09:19, Edward Bartolo ha escrit:
> Although this belongs to devuan-dev I am posting this here for general
> discussion.
> 
> I think, the principle should hold indefinitely as anyone working on
> Devuan's projects, is doing it for free in their free time. Since
> there is no payment involved, it makes a lot of sense to keep some
> form of motivator. In this case, such a motivator, would be more say
> in decisions.
> 
> Please, understand this email is NOT intended to push myself to have
> more say: that would be above my head, as I have absolutely NO
> experience besides with the most common equipment found at homes.
> 
> Another point to state is, to repeat that unanimity, is important
> where major changes to Devuan are involved. This point has been
> criticised as the stalling policy of the EU, but needless to say,
> every policy has its downside. It is better to have slow progress
> rather than have schisms occurring as a result of deep disagreement.
> This has happened to Debian notwithstanding of its well-planned
> structure.
> 
> I attribute the changes taking place in GNU/Linux in general,
> especially the introduction of systemd, to business forces placing
> their fingers where they shouldn't. Devuan should guard itself to
> create a structure that impeaches any member that acts in ways that
> would undermine the Devuan ideal in the long run. I think, Debian
> suffered what it suffered because it allowed members/developers with
> questionable backgrounds and design preferences.
> 
> edbarx
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Re: [DNG] "the more you do, the stronger your voice"

2017-10-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 14.10.17 09:19, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Although this belongs to devuan-dev I am posting this here for general
> discussion.
> 
> I think, the principle should hold indefinitely as anyone working on
> Devuan's projects, is doing it for free in their free time. Since
> there is no payment involved, it makes a lot of sense to keep some
> form of motivator. In this case, such a motivator, would be more say
> in decisions.

In the absence of payment, it seems clear that 100% of decision making
resides with the implementers - users merely provide suggestions. The
counterbalance is that when implementers don't provide what the users
need, then they go elsewhere, as we have done.

I'm still observing, to see whether devuan gains substance, or will
remain an appendage of debian, forever scratching at monolithic monsters,
introduced into debian specifically to M$-ify it into a purely
commercial product, but never quite breaking free from that tarpit.

Erik
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Re: [DNG] "the more you do, the stronger your voice"

2017-10-14 Thread Weaver
On 2017-10-14 17:19, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Although this belongs to devuan-dev I am posting this here for general
> discussion.
> 
> I think, the principle should hold indefinitely as anyone working on
> Devuan's projects, is doing it for free in their free time. Since
> there is no payment involved, it makes a lot of sense to keep some
> form of motivator. In this case, such a motivator, would be more say
> in decisions.

I'm afraid I can't agree.
Usually the most sense is spoken by the smallest voice.
History is full of examples of the minority being in the right.
The whole idea of open source is the wealth of the collective,
intelligence of the crowd, call it what you will.
As soon as you make it `proprietary', in any sense, you lose that major
advantage, placing yourself back at square one.

 
> Please, understand this email is NOT intended to push myself to have
> more say: that would be above my head, as I have absolutely NO
> experience besides with the most common equipment found at homes.
> 
> Another point to state is, to repeat that unanimity, is important
> where major changes to Devuan are involved.


Here you advocate the diametrically opposed opposite.


> This point has been
> criticised as the stalling policy of the EU, but needless to say,
> every policy has its downside. It is better to have slow progress
> rather than have schisms occurring as a result of deep disagreement.
> This has happened to Debian notwithstanding of its well-planned
> structure.
> 
> I attribute the changes taking place in GNU/Linux in general,
> especially the introduction of systemd, to business forces placing
> their fingers where they shouldn't. Devuan should guard itself to
> create a structure that impeaches any member that acts in ways that
> would undermine the Devuan ideal in the long run. I think, Debian
> suffered what it suffered because it allowed members/developers with
> questionable backgrounds and design preferences.
> 
> edbarx
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[DNG] "the more you do, the stronger your voice"

2017-10-14 Thread Edward Bartolo
Although this belongs to devuan-dev I am posting this here for general
discussion.

I think, the principle should hold indefinitely as anyone working on
Devuan's projects, is doing it for free in their free time. Since
there is no payment involved, it makes a lot of sense to keep some
form of motivator. In this case, such a motivator, would be more say
in decisions.

Please, understand this email is NOT intended to push myself to have
more say: that would be above my head, as I have absolutely NO
experience besides with the most common equipment found at homes.

Another point to state is, to repeat that unanimity, is important
where major changes to Devuan are involved. This point has been
criticised as the stalling policy of the EU, but needless to say,
every policy has its downside. It is better to have slow progress
rather than have schisms occurring as a result of deep disagreement.
This has happened to Debian notwithstanding of its well-planned
structure.

I attribute the changes taking place in GNU/Linux in general,
especially the introduction of systemd, to business forces placing
their fingers where they shouldn't. Devuan should guard itself to
create a structure that impeaches any member that acts in ways that
would undermine the Devuan ideal in the long run. I think, Debian
suffered what it suffered because it allowed members/developers with
questionable backgrounds and design preferences.

edbarx
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