Re: [DNG] Better late than never
Am 2018-09-18 01:11, schrieb aitor_czr: > I uploaded the new packeges after fixing most of the bugs: > > http://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/ > > I also added the .desktop menu entry. Is there some README about simple-netaid? What is it? Is it a replacement for wicd? Can they live together, or must wicd removed? What's the difference between the two? Jochen___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
On 2018-09-17 18:20, Adam Borowski wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 05:27:39PM -0500, hal wrote: On September 17, 2018 5:16:21 PM CDT, observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: :: Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after :: Who was ejected? No one. But, you're responding to our dear MikeeUSA, this is never a good thread to be in. His actions are harmful towards those he appears to be trolling for. And he's spreading falsities once again. It's a sad day when GregKH took CoralineAda's bait, but with "allies" like Mikee, you don't need enemies. Just ignore. Meow! Didn't Linus self-eject himself? I read your response (which should never have had to be written) to Linus' post. Well done!! It will be interesting to see how his absence affects the kernel. If it goes where I suspect it might, I wonder whether there will be another fork in Devuan's future. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
Quoting observerofaffa...@redchan.it (observerofaffa...@redchan.it): > I am an attorney You misspelled 'cartooney'. HTH. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 05:27:39PM -0500, hal wrote: > On September 17, 2018 5:16:21 PM CDT, observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: > :: Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after > :: > > Who was ejected? No one. But, you're responding to our dear MikeeUSA, this is never a good thread to be in. His actions are harmful towards those he appears to be trolling for. And he's spreading falsities once again. It's a sad day when GregKH took CoralineAda's bait, but with "allies" like Mikee, you don't need enemies. Just ignore. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ What Would Jesus Do, MUD/MMORPG edition: ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ • multiplay with an admin char to benefit your mortal [Mt3:16-17] ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ • abuse item cloning bugs [Mt14:17-20, Mt15:34-37] ⠈⠳⣄ • use glitches to walk on water [Mt14:25-26] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
Hi, El 17/09/18 a las 15:17, aitor_czr escribió: Hi, El 17/09/18 a las 11:48, aitor_czr escribió: Hi, El 17/09/18 a las 08:22, aitor_czr escribió: I've been testing the packages, and the packaging need a review. There are some bugs non-existent building the sources. Maybe the static library... I'll try to fix it today. Cheers,  Aitor. You can build the sources: https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk running the script: $ ./build src Then, run the application: $ ./simple-netaid-gtk If you want to build the packages, you'll need to checkout the gbp-master branch and also the pristine tarball in the parent directory: $ git checkout gbp-master $ pristine-tar checkout ../simple-netaid-gtk_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz After that, use git-buildpackage: $ git-buildpackage -j4 -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" --git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch |If you change the sources, work in the master branch and merge it onto the gbp-master branch (if you don't want to use quilt patches). After that, you'll also need to update the delta binary in the pristine-tar branch. Cheers,  Aitor.| Lines nº43, nº550 and nº632 of the "window_main.cpp" needed to be changed. In previous versions of simple-netaid, the spinner ran "/usr/lib/simple-netaid/bin/backend 8" being this backend the backend developed by Edward Bartolo. Now it runs the new backend. So, the spinner didn't work after clicking on the refresh button or on the systray-icon. I pushed a new commit. Aitor. I uploaded the new packeges after fixing most of the bugs: http://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/ I also added the .desktop menu entry. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
The new code of conduct was just ratified yesterday. No one has yet been ejected. It posits that anyone who speaks disrespectfully to (women, various others, the standard list) etc etc will be barred from contributing to the linux kernel. I am an attorney and I am writing to inform those who will be ejected that they do have remedies. One is rescission of the license they granted regarding their code, and then a lawsuit under copyright if/when the rescission is ignored. The others are breach of contract, libel, false light, etc. The Code of Conduct is a direct assault on the good men who have laboured for free for years to raise linux. This is their "thank you". They are being treated like slaves (a common occurrence). That which they created is being taken from them. They were promised a meritocracy, a position therein based solely on the quality of their work, they are now receiving speech-controls and other violations of their civil rights with the ability to list themselves as a Linux Kernel contributor as a blugeon. On 2018-09-17 22:27, hal wrote: On September 17, 2018 5:16:21 PM CDT, observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: :: Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after :: Who was ejected? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [ASCII][PATCH] startx to a new tty
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:53:39 +0200 viverna wrote: > Steve Litt il 16-09-18 22:21:11 ha > scritto: > > Then here's a solution that bridges all the options: Release Dario's > > version of startx under some other name, so that Gnome/KDE people > > can still have their "features", and everyone else can have X that > > works and leaves the system in good shape when it terminates. Put > > it in the same package that startx comes in. Just use Dario's patch > > to make it, each time Debian changes startx. > Good solution. But I think Dario's solution should be the > default. > Another possibility is don't use startx and execute xinit from a > personal shell script and (fine grained) control all parameters > passed to xinit. This is my approach. If you are interested I write a > simple shell script and I will be happy if it may be useful for > someone. > The shellscript calling xinit was my first thought. Then I put startx in an editor. It does a WHOLE LOT of stuff I don't have the knowledge to recreate. It's 200 lines of bash, for gosh sakes. So, trying to prove your xinit idea couldn't possibly work, I did the following: xinit -- :8 Of course nothing that simplistic would work. Oops, it came right up in Openbox, same as my normal startx initiated vt7. Dmenu worked, gnumeric worked, Chromium didn't because it started itself in vt7 instead of vt8, but you usually have only one X at a time. Your idea merits more research. The "we must cover every corner case" crowd can use startx in its Redhat-diminished state, while people like us use a <20 line shellscript. Perhaps call it viverna. SteveT Steve Litt September 2018 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
On September 17, 2018 5:16:21 PM CDT, observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: :: Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after :: Who was ejected? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).
Regarding those who are ejected from the Linux Kernel Community after this CoC: Contributors can, at any time, rescind the license grant regarding their property via written notice to those whom they are rescinding the grant from (regarding their property (code)). The GPL version 2 lacks a no-rescission clause (the GPL version 3 has such a clause: to attempt furnish defendants with an estoppel defense, the Linux Kernel is licensed under version 2, however, as are the past contributions). When the defendants ignore the rescission and continue using the plaintiff's code, the plaintiff can sue under the copyright statute. Banned contributors _should_ do this (note: plaintiff is to register their copyright prior to filing suit, the copyright doe not have to be registered at the time of the violation however) Additionally when said banned contributors joined the Linux team, they were under the impression that it was a meritocracy: in-fact this belief was stated or ratified by those within the governing body regarding Linux when the contributors began their work (whatever that body was at that time, it could have been simply Linus, or Linus and a few associates). The remuneration for the work was implied to be, or perhaps stated, to be fame as-well as a potential increase in the contributors stature, in addition to membership in the Linux Kernel club or association, or whatever it is that the Linux Kernel Community actually is (which a court may determine... it is something, suffice to say). Thusly for work, consideration was promised by (Linus? Others? There are years of mailing list archives with which to determine). And now that consideration has been clawed-back and the contributors image has been tarnished. Thus the worker did work, however the other side of the implied, or perhaps written (email memorandums), understanding has been violated (once the contributor has been banned under the new non-meritocratic "CoC"). Damages could be recovered under: breach of contract, quazi-contract, libel, false-light. (services rendered for the contractual claims, future lost income for the libel claims) In addition to copyright claims. (statutory damages, profits) For greatest effect, all rescission should be done at once in a bloc. (With other banned contributors). Contributors: You were promised something, you laboured for that promise, and now the promise has become a lie. You have remedies available to you now, as-well as in the close future. Additionally, regarding those who promoted the Code of Conduct to be used against the linux kernel contributors, knowing full well the effect it would have and desiring those effects; recovery for the ejected contributors via a tortious interference claim may be possible. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [ASCII][PATCH] startx to a new tty
Steve Litt il 16-09-18 22:21:11 ha scritto: > Then here's a solution that bridges all the options: Release Dario's > version of startx under some other name, so that Gnome/KDE people can > still have their "features", and everyone else can have X that works > and leaves the system in good shape when it terminates. Put it in the > same package that startx comes in. Just use Dario's patch to make it, > each time Debian changes startx. Good solution. But I think Dario's solution should be the default. Another possibility is don't use startx and execute xinit from a personal shell script and (fine grained) control all parameters passed to xinit. This is my approach. If you are interested I write a simple shell script and I will be happy if it may be useful for someone. -- viverna ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Banana Pi M2 Ultra
On 17.09.2018 22:09 Gregory Nowak wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 06:25:23PM +0200, Mike wrote: I tried to run Devuan on a Banana Pi M2 Ultra. I followed the instuctions in devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt and dd'd devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_sunxi.img.xz and tried all of these Bananapi_defconfig.bin You probably want to uncompress it first. Yes, sure. That's why I wrote I followed the instuctions in devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt Is the M2 Ultra (contains a Allwinner R40) covered by one of the provided defconfig.bin files? Has anyone already successfully installed Devuan on a Banana Pi M2 Ultra? Mike ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] [ASCII][PATCH] startx to a new tty
Hi Dario, On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 09:35:52PM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote: > Il 16/09/2018 alle 18:43, Andreas Messer ha scritto: ddd> > I see. Anyway I strongly doubt that any DE relies on startx internally: > it's a shell script that's intended to provide a convenient user > interface to console users who want to spawn an X session. Yes a DE does not care how the X-server was started - by startx, by a display manager or something else. But startx can of course start a DE like KDE. And KDE depends on session management - at least some of its functionality. And for that to work properly, the session associated with KDE needs to be "active". > Also note that startx will *always* run X as root, even the stock Devuan > version. My patch doesn't change that. The 'needs_root_rights' variable As far as I understand this only happens when xserver-xorg-legacy package is installed. If this package is not installed, X will never run as root. > I add to 'Xwrapper.config' is only there for Xwrapper (a short lived > program called by startx) to be able to allocate a new tty. After which > it spawns X and quits. Manualpage of Xorg.wrap says something different. My understanding is, that for example using DRI - which actually means using a modern graphics card at all - either requires root permissions of the x server or a working session management. (Session management daemon will adjust permissions such that DRI is available to non-root) > With the stock RedHat-derived version, instead, a new tty is not > allocated: the current tty is taken over by X when you issue startx. > After X quits, the current tty is released, but is now owned by root > (no longer by your user). Which is not the way the XFree86 / Xorg > devs intended startx to work. I dont know much about that. My feeling about this is, that it is something which can not really be solved to fit all needs. From my point, there are two ways: Either have a working session management with running X without root permission or having no session management and running X as root. In the later case, X should have its own tty allocated indeed. So the decision if a new tty shall be allocated actually corellates to if X is running as root or not. Since only Xorg.wrap knows finally if it will run X with root permission or not, its the first place for me were modifications need to be made. Maybe the whole combination of startx/xinit/Xorg.wrap needs adjustments. Both affected packets (xinit, xserver-xorg-legacy) are currently taken unchanged from Debian. So if we were to modify them, forks of these packages have to be created in Devuan package git repos. There we can put the modifications for test and possible future integration. Decision on that is not mine. @Dario: If you want to see this changed, I'd like to encourage you to create an account on Devuan git and just start to work on this topic. cheers, Andreas signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] thunderbird (was Re: DSA Ascii Sep17)
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 04:31:32PM +0100, leloft wrote: > Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:54:24 + > [SECURITY] [DSA 4295-1] thunderbird security update > > Debian follows the Thunderbird upstream releases. Support for the 52.x > series has ended, so starting with this update we're now following the > 60.x releases. > > Between 52.x and 60.x, Thunderbird has undergone significant internal > updates, which makes it incompatible with a number of extensions. For > more information please refer to > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-60 I haven't been following other extensions, but at least firetray has been fixed, but is only slowly making its way to a stable update. You may want to pick it sooner -- I've NMUed the fix in unstable. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ What Would Jesus Do, MUD/MMORPG edition: ⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ • multiplay with an admin char to benefit your mortal [Mt3:16-17] ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ • abuse item cloning bugs [Mt14:17-20, Mt15:34-37] ⠈⠳⣄ • use glitches to walk on water [Mt14:25-26] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Banana Pi M2 Ultra
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 06:25:23PM +0200, Mike wrote: > I tried to run Devuan on a Banana Pi M2 Ultra. I followed the instuctions > in devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt and dd'd > devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_sunxi.img.xz and tried all of these > Bananapi_defconfig.bin You probably want to uncompress it first. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Banana Pi M2 Ultra
I tried to run Devuan on a Banana Pi M2 Ultra. I followed the instuctions in devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt and dd'd devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armhf_sunxi.img.xz and tried all of these Bananapi_defconfig.bin Bananapro_defconfig.bin Sinovoip_BPI_M2_defconfig.bin But it refuses to boot. Does one of these blobs work with the M2 Ultra? Has anyone run Devuan on a M2 Ultra? Cheers ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] DSA Ascii Sep17
Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:58:39 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4296-1] mbedtls security update version 2.4.2-1+deb9u3 Confirmed: ascii-security Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:54:24 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4295-1] thunderbird security update Debian follows the Thunderbird upstream releases. Support for the 52.x series has ended, so starting with this update we're now following the 60.x releases. Between 52.x and 60.x, Thunderbird has undergone significant internal updates, which makes it incompatible with a number of extensions. For more information please refer to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-60 In addition, the new Thunderbird packages require Rust to build. A compatible Rust toolchain has been backported to Debian stretch, but is not available for all architectures which previously supported the purely C++-based Thunderbird packages. Thus, the new Thunderbird packages don't support the mips, mips64el and mipsel architectures at this point. For the stable distribution (ascii), these problems have been fixed in version 1:60.0-3~deb9u1. Confirmed: ascii-security Note: jessie-security, beowulf, ascii, jessie all contain v52* Note: ceres contains v1:60.0-3 Note: ascii-proposed-updates contains rustc v1.24.1+dfsg1-1~deb9u4 Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:48:10 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4294-1] ghostscript security update version 9.20~dfsg-3.2+deb9u5 Confirmed: ascii-security Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:43:40 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4273-2] intel-microcode security update This update ships updated CPU microcode for additional models of Intel CPUs which were not yet covered by the Intel microcode update released as DSA-4273-1 (and thus provides SSBD support (needed to address "Spectre v4") and fixes for "Spectre v3a")). version 3.20180807a.1~deb9u1 Confirmed: ascii-security/non-free Note: jessie-security/non-free contains v3.20180807a.1~deb8u1 Note: ascii-backports/non-free contains v3.20180807a.1~bpo9+1 Note: beowulf/non-free and ceres/non-free contain v3.20180807a.1 Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:22:31 +0100 [SECURITY] [DSA 4293-1] discount security update version 2.2.2-1+deb9u1 Confirmed: ascii-security Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:13:02 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4292-1] kamailio security update version 4.4.4-2+deb9u3. Confirmed: ascii-security Tue, 11 Sep 2018 22:03:31 +0200 [SECURITY] [DSA 4291-1] mgetty security update version 1.1.36-3+deb9u1 Confirmed: ascii-security Mon, 10 Sep 2018 20:50:52 + [SECURITY] [DSA 4290-1] libextractor security update version 1:1.3-4+deb9u2 Confirmed: ascii-security ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
Hi, El 17/09/18 a las 11:48, aitor_czr escribió: Hi, El 17/09/18 a las 08:22, aitor_czr escribió: I've been testing the packages, and the packaging need a review. There are some bugs non-existent building the sources. Maybe the static library... I'll try to fix it today. Cheers,  Aitor. You can build the sources: https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk running the script: $ ./build src Then, run the application: $ ./simple-netaid-gtk If you want to build the packages, you'll need to checkout the gbp-master branch and also the pristine tarball in the parent directory: $ git checkout gbp-master $ pristine-tar checkout ../simple-netaid-gtk_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz After that, use git-buildpackage: $ git-buildpackage -j4 -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" --git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch |If you change the sources, work in the master branch and merge it onto the gbp-master branch (if you don't want to use quilt patches). After that, you'll also need to update the delta binary in the pristine-tar branch. Cheers,  Aitor.| Lines nº43, nº550 and nº632 of the "window_main.cpp" needed to be changed. In previous versions of simple-netaid, the spinner ran "/usr/lib/simple-netaid/bin/backend 8" being this backend the backend developed by Edward Bartolo. Now it runs the new backend. So, the spinner didn't work after clicking on the refresh button or on the systray-icon. I pushed a new commit. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
Hi, El 17/09/18 a las 08:22, aitor_czr escribió: I've been testing the packages, and the packaging need a review. There are some bugs non-existent building the sources. Maybe the static library... I'll try to fix it today. Cheers, Aitor. You can build the sources: https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk running the script: $ ./build src Then, run the application: $ ./simple-netaid-gtk If you want to build the packages, you'll need to checkout the gbp-master branch and also the pristine tarball in the parent directory: $ git checkout gbp-master $ pristine-tar checkout ../simple-netaid-gtk_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz After that, use git-buildpackage: $ git-buildpackage -j4 -tc --git-export-dir="../build-area" --git-pristine-tar --git-tag --git-ignore-branch |If you change the sources, work in the master branch and merge it onto the gbp-master branch (if you don't want to use quilt patches). After that, you'll also need to update the delta binary in the pristine-tar branch. Cheers, Aitor. | ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
El 16/09/18 a las 23:49, aitor_czr escribió: You must type `chmod +x libnetaid.install`, of course. Here you are the packages of simple-netaid for amd64: http://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/ This week i'll upload the packages for i386 and i'll explain how to build them for other architectures. Tomorrow i'll push the latest commits to gitlab. Hope you like it :) Aitor. I've been testing the packages, and the packaging need a review. There are some bugs non-existent building the sources. Maybe the static library... I'll try to fix it today. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Better late than never
El 16/09/18 a las 23:49, aitor_czr escribió: You must type `chmod +x libnetaid.install`, of course. Here you are the packages of simple-netaid for amd64: http://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/ This week i'll upload the packages for i386 and i'll explain how to build them for other architectures. Tomorrow i'll push the latest commits to gitlab. Hope you like it :) Aitor. I've been testing the packages, and the packaging needs a review, there are a few bugs non-existent building the sources. Maybe the static library... Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
