Re: [DNG] audacity 2.2. in Ascii?
Hallo Andreas, I just posted my solution. It is not quite what I wanted but in the end it helps. Thanks a lot. Raúl Thanks to you all! Unfortunately my machine works on i386 so I cannot use an amd64-package. In the end I upgraded ascii to beowulf with the help of "Tips for successfully migrating Ascii DE to Beowulf as of 11-08-2018". It seems to be working well and I have audacity 2.2. Thanks again Raúl On 08/09/2019 14:56, Andreas Messer wrote: Hi Raúl, On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 02:53:41PM +0200, Raul Claro wrote: Dear Dev1ers, I am using Ascii very satisfactorily and do not want, for the time being anyway, to migrate to a newer system. But I would need to use a higher version of Audacity, not 2.1 any longer but rather 2.2 (or even 2.3) if possible. Is there anything in Devuan like the backports in Debian, where some later packages were made available for earlier versions of the OS? Where can I find a .deb-package Audacity 2.2.? Well, you could be trying to take the audacity 2.2 package from Debian (the Devuan package is actually taken unchanged from Debian) and install it. But most likely this will pull in lots of other library dependencies which can not be satisfied by ascii release. Of course these can be manually installed also. But you should not do that since your ascii install might easily become messed up by that ending in hell when installing/upgrading in future. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/audacity/ One thing I often do by myself is to take the source package and recompile it on my ascii install. In many cases this recompilation works using the ascii libraries without updating them to newer versions. (Similar thing is done for backports) A workflow would be roughly like follows (shell): $ git clone -b debian/2.3.2-2 https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/audacity.git audacity $ cd audacity $ dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc $ sudo dpkg -i ../audacity*.deb You migt be required to install additional packages: git, dpkg-dev. And the dpkg-buildpackage command might also request extra packages to be installed. Hope this helps to solve your need. cheers, Andreas ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html
- Original Message - From: NCW RC via Dng To: dng Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 2:25 PM Subject: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html I hope I did this maillist reply correctly. I am doing it with webmail, not an email client. libpam-systemd depends systemd-sysv. libpam-systemd also depends systemd. Devuan's libpam-elogind provides libpam-systemd but conflicts with systemd which must be removed first. However, to get systemd uninstalled we first have to replace systemd-sysv with sysvinit-core (leaving systemd installed) and reboot. systemd and elogind conflict so we cannot use libpam-elogind to replace libpam-systemd *yet*. This is the point we need a transitional package to temporarily satisfy libpam-systemd's systemd-sysv dependency whilst the system is rebooted. After reboot, systemd is no longer PID1 so can be removed and we can then complete the transition replacing libpam-systemd with libpam-elogind, removing systemd and installing elogind. I hope that is clearer. I can get the general grasp of this information as I think a similar shim was used in devuan when it was first forked. What I found to get sysvinit-core installed was to -boot into the debian install, and before changing the sources list to point to devuan, -run "apt install sysvinit-core" then, alter the sources.list to point to beowulf and, "apt update" "apt upgrade" "reboot" No errors were noted and upon a reboot, sysvinit is running as PID1 and the migration can continue in a manner similar to what it has been in the past. Trying to install sysvinit-core after the sources.list pointed to beowulf caused many problems and I never could get it done that way. I documented my test migration of a buster Xfce install at: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p17716 You did not try the following order: - modify sources.list - apt-get update - apt-get install devuan-keyring - apt-get install sysvinit-core - reboot - apt-get upgrade Best Regards -- Ismael ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] audacity 2.2. in Ascii?
Hi Raúl, On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 02:53:41PM +0200, Raul Claro wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > I am using Ascii very satisfactorily and do not want, for the time being > anyway, to migrate to a newer system. But I would need to use a higher > version of Audacity, not 2.1 any longer but rather 2.2 (or even 2.3) if > possible. Is there anything in Devuan like the backports in Debian, where > some later packages were made available for earlier versions of the OS? > Where can I find a .deb-package Audacity 2.2.? Well, you could be trying to take the audacity 2.2 package from Debian (the Devuan package is actually taken unchanged from Debian) and install it. But most likely this will pull in lots of other library dependencies which can not be satisfied by ascii release. Of course these can be manually installed also. But you should not do that since your ascii install might easily become messed up by that ending in hell when installing/upgrading in future. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/audacity/ One thing I often do by myself is to take the source package and recompile it on my ascii install. In many cases this recompilation works using the ascii libraries without updating them to newer versions. (Similar thing is done for backports) A workflow would be roughly like follows (shell): $ git clone -b debian/2.3.2-2 https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/audacity.git audacity $ cd audacity $ dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc $ sudo dpkg -i ../audacity*.deb You migt be required to install additional packages: git, dpkg-dev. And the dpkg-buildpackage command might also request extra packages to be installed. Hope this helps to solve your need. cheers, Andreas signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 11:16:20PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > This is the point we need a transitional package to temporarily satisfy > > > libpam-systemd's systemd-sysv dependency whilst the system is rebooted. > > It it there yet? If not, could you let us know when it arrives? I could > delay my test upgrade in case it might test whether these changes work > properly. I hope to have one for initial testing later today. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 06:25:02PM +, NCW RC via Dng wrote: >I documented my test migration of a buster Xfce install at: > >https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p17716 Thanks. Yes, that mirrors my experience. I am hoping that I have a way to avoid the removal and reinstallation of policykit, lightdm etc that you found. I would also love to understand why dbus is slow after the reboot. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
