Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess
On 4/1/19 8:05 PM, Mike Bird wrote: Anyone using Devuan in production will, like us, have frozen updates for now. This situation cannot persist long. If Devuan/VUA cannot quickly prove itself worthy of trust we too will have to rebuild our systems, and in doing so migrate away from Devuan. Devuan/VUA's lame response thus far has been infinitely worse than anything ever done by SystemD. +1 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] suspicious firefox behaviour
On 1/31/19 3:00 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have firefox up with a number of tabs. I shut wifi off on my Purism laptop by shutting off power to the radio. I start up a new tab by clicking on '+'. I ask to look at file:///home/hendrik by typing in the url bar. Nothing happens. It's frozen. I try file:/// Nothing happens either. I turn wifi on and reconnect to the access point. Now both of these urls work. So I ask: Why should firefox need to access the net to look at the hard drive in the laptop. Some 1-2 months ago I found something similar in then recent version (but now looks to me as if it was solved since then): When looked into locally saved web pages (and while being not connected to the Internet), and then after quitting firefox, some half a minute later it reported an error saying about some abnormal exit, or whatever. But, when looked into locally saved web pages (while being connected to the Internet), and then after quitting firefox, no error message at all. - Why would it like to be on-line while handling local content? Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems
On 11/28/18 2:53 PM, ael wrote: I just dug out one of my old dongles and plugged it into a debian testing laptop. The mode switch seems to be automatic, which is what I remembered, and someone else said had been true of recent kernels. Here is an extract from dmesg: Very good. Will test it next time I go to the club. Tnx! Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems
On 11/28/18 11:41 AM, Rick Moen wrote: I haven't read any of those in detail. I just wanted to illustrate that you can find _possibly_ promising coverage of Linux support for, e.g., the Huawei E3372 by Web-searching for 'Huawei E3372 Linux' (and then, of course, favouring more-clueful sites among search hits, e.g., the Arch Linux wiki, Stack Exchange, etc. Sure, will search in days to come. I asked in this list after supposing that someone might have already tried some of those modems in Devuan. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems
On 11/27/18 8:08 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: __ It is a while ago that I struggled with a USB modem but your device should be recognized by your system (supported since 2.6.18). A old bug i found was that usbstorage is too fast for usbswitch. The remedy would be to create a file /etc/modprobe.d/usb-storage.conf: options usb-storage delay_use=3 or a higher number. Ok, will try that next week. Tnx! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems
On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems: - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such) - Huawei USB modem E3372 4G - Huawei Mobile Wifi router E5573C 4G Above was on Debian. I imagine that your dongles are more recent: maybe quite different. I wrote some notes on getting a huwai dongle going, but I don't have them to hand just now. I think that most of the information was on line. Well, yesterday I visited some ISP shops here and they mostly offered dongles or routers as the second and third above, E3372 4G and/or E5573C 4G. And in the veterans club here they had an older dongle (i.e. the first one above, 3G) that was earlier used at some Wintendo machine. I inserted it for test into a dual-boot Wintendo / Devuan Jessie 64bit and nothing happened. (On the other side, Wintendo installed drivers and app from files located within the dongle memory.) I found some info on the net that such dongles might require to be switched from the bulk memory stick mode to the modem mode, or something like that, to be able to activate in Linux. However, I asked in this list here because I wondered if Devuan distro might have some special requirements regarding running such modem dongles. So, in general I wonder what software packages from repository are used with such type of peripherals. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems
Hello all, What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems: - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such) - Huawei USB modem E3372 4G - Huawei Mobile Wifi router E5573C 4G Any good experience with those? Seems that those only support Wintendo and Mac. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??
On 11/18/18 2:28 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: 2. What about local compilations of various 3rd party software that usually go to /usr/local/bin, sbin, lib, ... in case of merger will they all go to the root filesystem? More potential trouble? Yes/No? Tnx. ..you want these on its own disk, or at least on their own disk partitions, like your /home tree. Possibly ... but you need to explain that to the 3rd party software programmers. All I have remembered to be compiled from sources locally, went to /usr/local/.. Seems as (un)written consensus; however nobody suggested to have /usr/local/ as a separate partition at install. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??
On 11/17/18 3:18 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: The advantage of separating /usr is it can be mounted after boot. /bin and /sbin (and /lib) contain the critical applications (and library) necessary to boot the system, and they are, by necessity, part of the root filesystem. Merging /usr means, actually merging /usr/bin with /bin, /usr/sbin with /sbin and /usr/lib with /lib. Merging /usr means all the bloat from /usr/bin and /usr/lib will now be in /bin and /lib (not so much bloat in /usr/sbin). This has very Two more questions: 1. Installing (too many) software from repositories tends to fill in /usr to the point it screams for space (particularly in older machines with smaller HDD). However it seems to me that the root filesystem is still happy in such cases. But what in case of merger? Can the whole system be rendered unusable? (Or screaming?) 2. What about local compilations of various 3rd party software that usually go to /usr/local/bin, sbin, lib, ... in case of merger will they all go to the root filesystem? More potential trouble? Yes/No? Tnx. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/17/18 1:19 PM, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Hi all, I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is also just to tell the audience what Linux is about). Machines can ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or like. Suggestions? Please note that there is no Internet access to those boxes, so anything needed for each comp must be downloaded elsewhere and brought on USB or CD. Misko Ok, I did it by adding Vinagre to the Devuan box (it wasn't there after initial installation), and enabling Vino at Ubuntu box to accept incoming remote desktop requests (Vino was already in Ubuntu box after install). And it works well for now, so I can open an Ubuntu desktop from a Devuan machine. Remarks: - From a pedagogical point of view (I consider my audience as a bit too old 'kids' for computing), I wanted to make it simple, which means without some more advanced but also more complex solutions. - I wanted to do it with available repository options only. - Adding Vinagre to the Devuan box required resolving one or two additional dependencies that were not reported during my first try of installing Vinagre. (I had to download some additional package(s) to satisfy dependencies, and I manage that the second try.) I suppose it might be related to that Vinagre is listed as a remote desktop viewer for the Gnome desktop, and this Devuan installation is xfce. Whatever ... it did not ask to add Gnome or systemd or like. Good. - I tested X2Go client installations on my home Debian boxes. Although the client looks nice, I abandoned that approach because I did not find X2Go server as a repository option. (I am not fond of suggesting my newcomer audience to install 3rd party software that is not yet 'official' for repositories.) So that's it for now. Thank you all for opinions. Misko https://www.linkedin.com/in/miroslavskoric/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/28/18 3:14 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: I don't think you need SSH when using VNC. I just happen to have used it only with SSH (and RDP). Sure. I'll test it more. Tnx! Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/23/18 1:49 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: For access to other Linux boxen you may have to convince their sshd to do X11 forwarding (probably enabled by default) but once that's working you should have no problem showing their desktop on your Devuan machine using Remmina over SSH. Olaf, does Remmina needs SSH to work properly with X11? I tested Remmina at an Ubuntu box, without any SSH specifying (for example, just to reach Debian Mate desktop on another machine running x11vnc server) and it reported some connectivity error. In another case, when I used Remote Desktop Viewer (Vinagre) instead of Remmina, it worked without a hitch. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/23/18 1:45 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Hendrik, both boxes came to the club installed with Window$, and I have to keep them that way ..easy now, if these has lawful copies of Wintendo installed, you _can_ keep them that way. Now if these are the pirated ones you spoke about, any judge worth his salt will tell you you can _not_ keep them that way, and clarify that wrath of law in your verdict. ..which is why I'm happy to see these 2 boxes came to the club and not to you, and that a judge might believe how hard it is to get the club membership to understand why they need to comply to the license terms under your laws. Arnt, I am not a Wintendo lawyer, so I do not care. Those boxes are not mine, and it's just my good will to introduce the elders with Linux. Btw, it might be that at least one box came with legal Wintendo because it shows HP sign and its system utils after booting in Wintendo, and the hardware is HP too, so it was probably OEM pre-installed. The other one was donated from the police junk-yard, and I remember that big Wintendo boss himself visited Serbia 20 years ago to apparently donate licenses for the ministries. In any case, neither the judges here would care much about the laws. It's Serbia, freedom for all and everything :-) Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/22/2018 02:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: Err, how old do you think the people who developed the "Internet" are? Don't assume they don't have capable minds. We live in a world they built. I'm 72. Still capable mentally, though I need a cane to walk long distances. Don't need a cane to compute. Hendrik, you're the lucky one. But as most of us here you are the Linux 'geek'. My audience is mostly retired cops. Retired 20-25 years ago. They only 'invented' a cane. And now I need a cane to show them power-on buttons ;-) Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/22/2018 02:36 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
alternatives. As I said I have two machines there, one is wired to a big TV
so they who sit in a last row can listen & watch.
What is the other one wired to? A local small display?
Both of them have their own small displays, and the faster box (Devuan)
is also attached to a big TV for presentations. The presentation room is
kinda small theatre and the audience tend to sit far away in the last
rows. (So they can easily smoke & drink while I talk.) And apart of my
presentations everybody can sit in a front of local display, no problem
with that.
But the idea is not to disconnect/reconnect each
machine from the TV to switch different distro, instead I want to run Devuan
as a 'proxy' for Ubuntu to appear on TV as a second option.
No need for a second machine! No need for them to communicate over a cable!
You can have some of the seniors tinkering on one machine while you tinker on
the other!
It's complicated at this stage for total beginners in Linux. That's not
my point. As I said, I already have two machines, each as dual-boot,
wired in between, each having its own display, printer, etc. So it's
just a proper software package issue.
PS: I have already made some tests with remote desktops in my home LAN
(mixed Debian and Ubuntu machines, also in dual-boot combinations). And
I only had to add x11vnc server packages to them, and used clients I
already had on those machines ("Vinagre is a remote desktop viewer for
the GNOME desktop"), and it works! So I planned to do the same with
Devuan. Nothing else than that.
Misko
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Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent in (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to browse the Net, email, and office. So my point is to show them that there are free & unrestricted alternatives. As I said I have two machines there, one is wired to a big TV so they who sit in a last row can listen & watch. That one machine is Devuan Jessie 64-bit for now, I installed it just for test as I never used Devuan distro before. However, I am more experienced in Ubuntu, so I want to show them its desktop too. But the idea is not to disconnect/reconnect each machine from the TV to switch different distro, instead I want to run Devuan as a 'proxy' for Ubuntu to appear on TV as a second option. Why not just dual-boot between Devuan and Ubuntu? Dual boot doen't *require* one of the systems to be nonLinux! Hendrik, both boxes came to the club installed with Window$, and I have to keep them that way (partially) until the club members clearly show they want to learn something else than that. And the boxes' features are insufficient for a triple-boot endeavours. Important is also to show the audience that they always can reboot into their 'favourite' environment. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/20/2018 02:42 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..http://www.pclinuxos.com/ has a reputation for being the easiest distro for your kinda newbie users. But it is not Devuan. ;o) ..https://www.qubes-os.org/ is also not Devuan, but an excellent way to set up Devuan safely and securely in, er, these times. Naah ... is this Devuan or anti-Devuan list? Of course I'll reinstall into Ubuntu or Debian (or whatever I used in the past) if Devuan does not perform what I asked for :-) .._play_around_until_ you have a setup you're confident enough to tease your users into using. Your users has lived thru pretty bad times and _understand_ their need for _RL_ privacy, and will easily accept they need online privacy too, a fact you will find is handy when you are ready to scare them off their pirated Wintendos. ;o) Sure. I had downloaded a Devuan installation on a DVD and installed one of those comps. One of my points is to check it for differences against Debian and/or Ubuntu, so if it proves as failed it's not a big deal for me to reinstall into one of those mentioned :-) Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/17/2018 10:16 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote: For Linux stuff I've become somewhat fond of X2go Will check it. Tnx. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/17/2018 09:10 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: You may end up with network delays for systems that are designed with the speed of a local video display in mind. Well I am not in a hurry. I would make a try in any case before the public demo, so if it does not work in acceptable way, I would try some other option. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/17/2018 05:14 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: The easiest way would be to make a connection with ssh -X or -Y which enables X-forwarding. You then can start a individual X program from the commandline but also the complete WM. Perfectly showing how capable linux is in use. For more extended capabilities you could install x2go server and client which will also make possible to have more then one remote desktop. Nick, et al. ssh might be too complicated for my audience. They are not fond of CLI & terminals. I need something that can be chosen from the pull-down menu, and activated by mouse click to reach the other desktop's GUI (if possible) Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
On 10/17/2018 03:18 PM, terryc wrote: Machines can ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or like. Suggestions? Please note that there is no Internet access to those boxes, so anything needed for each comp must be downloaded elsewhere and brought on USB or CD. Burn the basic DVD and do the installation from it and if you have it on hand, you can show how easily the computer can acquire other applications by; 0) open a terminal b) aptitude search some application (or hint utility). c)sudo aptitude install chosen-utility. d) utility. It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less fluent in (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to browse the Net, email, and office. So my point is to show them that there are free & unrestricted alternatives. As I said I have two machines there, one is wired to a big TV so they who sit in a last row can listen & watch. That one machine is Devuan Jessie 64-bit for now, I installed it just for test as I never used Devuan distro before. However, I am more experienced in Ubuntu, so I want to show them its desktop too. But the idea is not to disconnect/reconnect each machine from the TV to switch different distro, instead I want to run Devuan as a 'proxy' for Ubuntu to appear on TV as a second option. Both machines are pretty old. Devuan box is somewhat faster but also old so that's why it is wired to the TV as the primary sample for Linux introduction. At this stage I do not want the elders to play with keyboards just like that, but to relax sitting in the room and watch the presentations. Installing software in terminal or like is not an option for the audience, it would be too much for them to understand, they are not Linux geeks. As well it is playing VM, at least until they learn the basics. Btw, those comps are dual-boot with Window$ because they are also used for other things besides Linux promotion. There is no Internet in the club so I need exactly what software packages need to be downloaded elsewhere and brought to the site. For Ubuntu there is Remina or like (if I recall the proper name) but duno what needs for Devuan. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?
Hi all, I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is also just to tell the audience what Linux is about). Machines can ping each other now, so besides introducing Devuan, I also want to introduce Ubuntu via Devuan by some kind of remote GUI access or like. Suggestions? Please note that there is no Internet access to those boxes, so anything needed for each comp must be downloaded elsewhere and brought on USB or CD. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Thunar issue (was: Re: New user of Devuan)
On 07/25/2018 12:27 PM, aitor_czr wrote: By the way, I have also noticed here that inserting a CD/DVD in this Devuan installation does not mount the medium automatically, neither it opens a file manager. How to make it the same way as it does in Ubuntu/Debian? Tnx. It seems to me that this is window-manager related, wich one do you use(sorry if you already told it)? It's related with the file manager's configuration. Go to "preferencies->advanced->device mangement" or something similar. Ok, here it is Thunar 1.6.3 file manager in this Devuan Live Jessie Desktop Edition. So I did in this order: Preferences > advanced > click on "Enable volume management" > Configure > Storage > removable storage, click on "Mount removable media when inserted", also click on "Browse removable media when inserted", (even tried with click on "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged"). That helped partially: Now after a CD is inserted, a new CD icon appears on the xfce desktop. By hovering the mouse over the CD icon, it says "no mounted". However, a right-click on the icon offers to mount the medium, to open it (in file manager), and so on. So far - so good. It all goes manually, however not (yet) automatically. In Thunar, in its left-side pane, besides the CD title, there was a sign to click on to eject the medium. And it ejected it. Good. Ok, then I rebooted the machine, opened the tray and inserted the CD again, and voilà: It mounted the CD automatically and opened Thunar after that. Great! BUT, only for the 1st time: After ejecting the medium, and re-inserting it again, it behaves the same as before rebooting the machine. After any next reboot, the same as above repeated (1st time all worked automatically, the 2nd and later only CD icon on the desktop). While I can settle for that for now, I wonder whether it is a bug or so in Thunar? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New user of Devuan
On 07/23/2018 12:56 PM, aitor_czr wrote: Hi, El 23/07/18 a las 10:51, Arnt Karlsen escribió: On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 07:20:11 +0200, Didier wrote in message <939d9753-debc-b146-c57b-4757a7e1c...@in2p3.fr>: Le 22/07/2018 à 16:59, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 19:57:04 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message : ... 1. How to add a language switch (notification) after OS installation? I suppose that I had opted for the US English keyboard and everything during the installation. However, now I would like to add some more keyboard stuff for local users, such as Serbian Cyrillic & Latin, German, etc. but dunno how to do it. The comp is not on the Internet. ..tried "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration "? Tried dpkg-reconfigure locales ? ..you're right, he'll need both. You can also install x11-xkb-utils, and the setxkbmap command will allow you to configure your keyboard for X11. I need to do that in the case of vdev (the keyboard is only configured for CLI sessions). Cheers, Aitor. Ok, "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" and/or "dpkg-reconfigure locales" have solved the problem, so now I have a language/keyboard switch added to the panel. Thank you for this. The other issue I had with ejecting the CD/DVD from the tray is now half-solved. I mean although the simple "eject" command in CLI does open the tray, I'd rather want to have a possibility such as a right-click on the CD/DVD icon in a file manager and then from a menu to choose something like "eject" or "unmount volume". (Similarly to what I can in Ubuntu/Debian etc.) As I mention in my first mail, this machine is prepared for using in a seniors club and it is hardly expecting elderly users to remember they need to open CLI and type "eject" every time they want to pick up their optical medium. By the way, I have also noticed here that inserting a CD/DVD in this Devuan installation does not mount the medium automatically, neither it opens a file manager. How to make it the same way as it does in Ubuntu/Debian? Tnx. Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New user of Devuan
On 07/23/2018 12:56 PM, aitor_czr wrote: Hi, El 23/07/18 a las 10:51, Arnt Karlsen escribió: On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 07:20:11 +0200, Didier wrote in message <939d9753-debc-b146-c57b-4757a7e1c...@in2p3.fr>: Le 22/07/2018 à 16:59, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 19:57:04 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message : ... 1. How to add a language switch (notification) after OS installation? I suppose that I had opted for the US English keyboard and everything during the installation. However, now I would like to add some more keyboard stuff for local users, such as Serbian Cyrillic & Latin, German, etc. but dunno how to do it. The comp is not on the Internet. ..tried "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration "? Tried dpkg-reconfigure locales ? ..you're right, he'll need both. You can also install x11-xkb-utils, and the setxkbmap command will allow you to configure your keyboard for X11. I need to do that in the case of vdev (the keyboard is only configured for CLI sessions). Cheers, Aitor. Thank you all for suggestions. Will see tomorrow what can be done. As I said, the comp is not on the Internet, and Devuan was installed from a live CD/DVD, which is not at hand at the moment ... Misko ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] New user of Devuan
Hi, I suppose that this list is the right place to ask for help related to Devuan. (If it is not, let me know. Tnx.) Recently I installed Devuan Jessie live to a spare machine, just to test it for a while, since I wasn't much happy after upgrading some of my systems from Debian Wheezy LTS to Debian Jessie (regarding some systemd issues, you bet). And although I had some previous experience with LXDE GUI, I faced to some issues: 1. How to add a language switch (notification) after OS installation? I suppose that I had opted for the US English keyboard and everything during the installation. However, now I would like to add some more keyboard stuff for local users, such as Serbian Cyrillic & Latin, German, etc. but dunno how to do it. The comp is not on the Internet. 2. After inserting a CD/DVD into the comp's drive, it gets recognized and is used properly. However, probably I missed to find an easy way to eject the medium from the drive. Any simple solution (without much unmounting or like in CLI or so)? The comp should be used primarily to make Linux popular among the elderly visitors of a seniors' club. Thanks for now! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
