Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 4:51 PM tempforever wrote: > So, my previous test did confirm that Devuan Chimaera without D-Bus is > still possible using the steps on dev1fanboy's documentation page. > Note, I don't really have anything against dbus (yet), I'm just checking > whether this is all still possible for documentation purposes. > Also note, it may be *possible* to install some of these software > packages that "depend" on dbus, without actually installing dbus... not > sure what functionality would be lost though. As far as adding new > recommendations to this list, I have none. Maybe someone else who > actually uses a dbus-free Devuan can chime in. > > The following list is from the "D-Bus free software" link at > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/dbus-free-software.html > > Window managers: > fluxbox: OK > blackbox: OK > openbox: tries to install dbus > fvwm: OK > fvwm-crystal: tries to install dbus > icewm: OK > metacity: tries to install dbus > evilwm: OK > windowmaker: Unable to locate package windowmaker > mutter: tries to install dbus > sawfish: OK > icewm: OK > dwm: OK > i3: tries to install dbus > wmaker: OK > > File Managers: > xfe: tries to install dbus > pcmanfm: tries to install dbus > rox-filer: tries to install dbus > mc: OK > gentoo: tries to install dbus > fdclone: OK > s3dfm: OK > tkdesk: OK > ytree: OK > vifm: OK > > Display managers: > nodm: OK > ldm: OK > xdm: OK > wdm: OK > LXQT: > > Web browsers: > midori: tries to install dbus > surf: tries to install dbus > dillo: OK > links2: OK > links: OK > elinks: OK > lynx: OK > edbrowse: OK > w3m: OK > Firefox-ESR: > > Music players: > deadbeef: Package has no installation candidate > cmus: OK > cdcd: OK > lxmusic: tries to install dbus > randomplay: OK > > Media players: > totem: tries to install dbus > xine-ui: OK > mplayer2: Package has no installation candidate > mpv: OK > melt: tries to install dbus > > IRC clients: > weechat: OK > irssi: OK > ekg2-ui-gtk: Unable to locate package > scrollz: OK > loqui: OK > > > Hopefully not inappropriate asking (wry grin face!) - - - - Regards ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
So, my previous test did confirm that Devuan Chimaera without D-Bus is still possible using the steps on dev1fanboy's documentation page. Note, I don't really have anything against dbus (yet), I'm just checking whether this is all still possible for documentation purposes. Also note, it may be *possible* to install some of these software packages that "depend" on dbus, without actually installing dbus... not sure what functionality would be lost though. As far as adding new recommendations to this list, I have none. Maybe someone else who actually uses a dbus-free Devuan can chime in. The following list is from the "D-Bus free software" link at https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/dbus-free-software.html Window managers: fluxbox: OK blackbox: OK openbox: tries to install dbus fvwm: OK fvwm-crystal: tries to install dbus icewm: OK metacity: tries to install dbus evilwm: OK windowmaker: Unable to locate package windowmaker mutter: tries to install dbus sawfish: OK icewm: OK dwm: OK i3: tries to install dbus wmaker: OK File Managers: xfe: tries to install dbus pcmanfm: tries to install dbus rox-filer: tries to install dbus mc: OK gentoo: tries to install dbus fdclone: OK s3dfm: OK tkdesk: OK ytree: OK vifm: OK Display managers: nodm: OK ldm: OK xdm: OK wdm: OK Web browsers: midori: tries to install dbus surf: tries to install dbus dillo: OK links2: OK links: OK elinks: OK lynx: OK edbrowse: OK w3m: OK Music players: deadbeef: Package has no installation candidate cmus: OK cdcd: OK lxmusic: tries to install dbus randomplay: OK Media players: totem: tries to install dbus xine-ui: OK mplayer2: Package has no installation candidate mpv: OK melt: tries to install dbus IRC clients: weechat: OK irssi: OK ekg2-ui-gtk: Unable to locate package scrollz: OK loqui: OK goli...@devuan.org wrote: > And how is any of this conversation helping Devuan sort out > documentation for the Chimaera release? > > The revised list needing assessment is: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ > > General information (will need to be updated to Chimaera at the least) > Devuan without D-Bus (is this still possible?) > D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date) > Minimal xorg install > Minimal XFCE install > > Thanks, > golinux > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
g4sra via Dng wrote: > I opt to live dangerously..(shove an '-r' in there too if you feel like it) > $ rm -i .* * > this way you can delete illegitimate entries without hacking the filesystem. That is definitely dangerous indeed. For example if for whatever reason one happens to have "-f" as a file name then it will override the "-i" listed as a command line option and then all files will be deleted without question. $ mkdir /tmp/testdir $ cd /tmp/testdir $ touch ./-f .foo foo $ echo rm -i .* * rm -i . .. .foo -f foo $ rm -i .* * rm: cannot remove '.': Is a directory rm: cannot remove '..': Is a directory $ ll -a -rw-rw-r-- 1 rwp rwp0 Sep 22 14:57 -f drwxrwxr-x 2 rwp rwp 60 Sep 22 14:57 ./ drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 760 Sep 22 14:57 ../ Where is .foo? Where is foo? There was no -i prompt. The -f file is still on disk and not removed? All correct behavior given the command as given. When dealing with file globs like "*" it is always better to prefix it with "./" as in "./*" so as to avoid the first character having any possibility of matching a dash and being interpreted as an option. You make your own luck! :-) [[ I have seen people intentionally leave a -i file in their home directory so as to intentionally have rm * cause it to be interpreted as an option. I recommend not relying upon it though. ]] Bob signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
It occurred to me after writing this, that those who switch to a dbus-free setup probably would already have the expertise to configure their networking, and may not be in need of a simple network-manager type program. This was my first time performing this type of configuration (removing dbus). tempforever wrote: > Removing dbus also seems to have removed network-manager, and I have > lost wifi connection. Was able to get on wired with ifconfig, route > (and editing /etc/resolv.conf) -- too lazy to use iwconfig. But this > may need mentioning in the documentation. Is there a simple alternative > to network-manager that doesn't depend on dbus? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
(off-topic section) I used the devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta2_2021-09-04_amd64_desktop-live.iso to set up my system. I use legacy startup (not EFI) but apparently the refracta installer and grub included on the live iso want EFI only (or incorrectly detected my system as using that). Anyway, I was able to chroot in after setup, and installed grub-legacy, and eventually got it all figured out and a bootable system. (now to the topic, documentation) "Devuan without D-Bus" Yes, this is still possible. I followed the steps to install fluxbox and wdm. The step to "apt-get purge dbus" removed ~150 packages (I had the default XFCE); then "apt-get autoremove --purge" removed ~450 more. The system does boot up into the selected window manager. I did not try the section dealing with manual mount points. I'm not aware of any reason why that would not still work. Removing dbus also seems to have removed network-manager, and I have lost wifi connection. Was able to get on wired with ifconfig, route (and editing /etc/resolv.conf) -- too lazy to use iwconfig. But this may need mentioning in the documentation. Is there a simple alternative to network-manager that doesn't depend on dbus? goli...@devuan.org wrote: > And how is any of this conversation helping Devuan sort out > documentation for the Chimaera release? > > The revised list needing assessment is: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ > > General information (will need to be updated to Chimaera at the least) > Devuan without D-Bus (is this still possible?) > D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date) > Minimal xorg install > Minimal XFCE install > > Thanks, > golinux > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
And how is any of this conversation helping Devuan sort out documentation for the Chimaera release? The revised list needing assessment is: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ General information (will need to be updated to Chimaera at the least) Devuan without D-Bus (is this still possible?) D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date) Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install Thanks, golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:16:26PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > > Net question: how to get a '/' in a file name instead of having it > > interpreted as a separator in a path. > > > > > I needed it once long ago when using a file system that had been built > > on another OS. > > > > > I resorted to using a hexadecimal editor on the raw disk to get rid of > > the thing. > Been there, done that. > Now my time is worth more than the effort to go down that road. > > I opt to live dangerously..(shove an '-r' in there too if you feel like it) > > $ rm -i .* * > > this way you can delete illegitimate entries without hacking the filesystem. > I've done that to files I didn't want with some very strange unicode in their names. But it's not a solution if you actually want to see the contents of the file. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
<--snip--> > Net question: how to get a '/' in a file name instead of having it > interpreted as a separator in a path. > > I needed it once long ago when using a file system that had been built > on another OS. > > I resorted to using a hexadecimal editor on the raw disk to get rid of > the thing. Been there, done that. Now my time is worth more than the effort to go down that road. I opt to live dangerously..(shove an '-r' in there too if you feel like it) $ rm -i .* * this way you can delete illegitimate entries without hacking the filesystem. publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42E94623.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:49:30AM +0300, Eric Pozharski wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 09:08:16AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31:19PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > On 2021-09-16 22:30, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > *SKIP* > > The command for finding the correct display driver: > > root@devuan:~# apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video-.* | pager > > Shouldn't the '*' be quoted in some manner so that the apt-cache > > command gets to interpret it instead of the shell: > > No, it might not. It's bashism (zsh has special option to let filename > generation fail, and it's unset by default; while bash) > > % bash > bash-5.1$ echo abc* > abc* So if there's no file matching the pattern, bash leaves the pattern as is without replacing it with nothing? Interesting. I'll have to think twice before I use * in a file name in a shell command. At least rm abc* will still remove a file actually called abc* Net question: how to get a '/' in a file name instead of having it interpreted as a separator in a path. I needed it once long ago when using a file system that had been built on another OS. I resorted to using a hexadecimal editor on the raw disk to get rid of the thing. -- hendrik > > It's risky indeed, but it's hard to imagine files with > 'xserver-xorg-video-.' prefix just laying around (these days). > > p.s. Ok then. Done with get-off-my-lawn mode this time. > > *CUT* > -- > Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination > Stallman's goal for GNU is even simpler: Freedom > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 09:08:16AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31:19PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > On 2021-09-16 22:30, goli...@devuan.org wrote: *SKIP* > The command for finding the correct display driver: > root@devuan:~# apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video-.* | pager > Shouldn't the '*' be quoted in some manner so that the apt-cache > command gets to interpret it instead of the shell: No, it might not. It's bashism (zsh has special option to let filename generation fail, and it's unset by default; while bash) % bash bash-5.1$ echo abc* abc* It's risky indeed, but it's hard to imagine files with 'xserver-xorg-video-.' prefix just laying around (these days). p.s. Ok then. Done with get-off-my-lawn mode this time. *CUT* -- Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination Stallman's goal for GNU is even simpler: Freedom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31:19PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-09-16 22:30, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > You can find the docs that need reviewing here: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ > > > > All releases > > > > General information > > Installing Devuan In the install guide, under installation images, it refers to devuan.org: "From mirrors listed on devuan.org that may be closer to you" But that's now where the mirrors are listed; they are on https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan It says to download the SHA256SUMS from the release archive. * They aren't actually in the place pointed to; rather refer the reader to the "same directory you downloaded the release from" * The SHA256SUMS for chimaera aren't there yet, though the ones for older releases are. In the actual 'Installing Devuan" section: * Step 10: What if there's no space at all on disk? * Step 15: Are deb,devuan.org and pkgmaster.devuan.org current? What about the long list of mirrors previously mentioned? * Step 18:In my experience, installing the packages I've selected takes a lot of time, not 'little' time. * Step 20: occurs twice. > > Full disk encryption > > Network configuration > > Devuan without D-Bus > > D-Bus free software Surprised to see gentoo listed as a file manager instead of as a distro. But it seems to be correct. Isn't slim also a dislpay manager? Does it need d-bus? Isn't xchat a IRC clint? Does it need d-bus? > > Minimal xorg install The command for finding the correct display driver: root@devuan:~# apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video-.* | pager Shouldn't the '*' be quoted in some manner so that the apt-cache command gets to interpret it instead of the shell: same for input drivers: root@devuan:~# apt-cache search xserver-xorg-input-.* | pager > > Minimal XFCE install > > > > I just realized that several of those documents are already updated for > Chimaera. Duh . . . Here's the new list: > > General information (will need to be updated to Chimaera at the least) > Devuan without D-Bus (is this still possible?) > D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date) > Minimal xorg install > Minimal XFCE install > > Anything no longer useful/relevant will be removed. > > Thanks for your feedback! > > golinux > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
On 2021-09-16 22:30, goli...@devuan.org wrote: You can find the docs that need reviewing here: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ All releases General information Installing Devuan Full disk encryption Network configuration Devuan without D-Bus D-Bus free software Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install I just realized that several of those documents are already updated for Chimaera. Duh . . . Here's the new list: General information (will need to be updated to Chimaera at the least) Devuan without D-Bus (is this still possible?) D-Bus free software (quite possibly out of date) Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install Anything no longer useful/relevant will be removed. Thanks for your feedback! golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
aitor has a network manager in his Gnuinos distribution based on simple-netaid that edbarx put together years ago but iiuc, it is still a wip. KatolaZ wrote the setnet script (no GUI) but it hasn't been touched for years: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/setnet wicd has been the default in Xfce It is brain-dead simple and reliable. Many users are unhappy with the remaining options. I hope that it can be resurrected. golinux On 2021-09-18 16:58, Steve Litt wrote: I thought some members of the Devuan community made something superior to wicd *and* that silly dbus enthusiast network-manager. SteveT goli...@devuan.org said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 11:27:01 -0500 Thanks for responding. wicd has indeed been removed from Chimaera. Sadly, there are reports of frustration that the available options are not as intuitive as wicd. However, there is hope! Someone is looking at transitioning wicd to python3 so keep your fingers crossed. To fill a gap, rrq has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that will be included in the www documentation. It is already available on the netinstall isos: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html golinux On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: Hello golinux. I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network Configuration* section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no longer distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in python2, and there has been no release since 2014. As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a possible replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which advertize itself as a slim and low on resources. As a quick poll, does anybody has a preferred network manager? Ludovic On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Request to the Devuan community . . . As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be carried forward for use in Chimaera. These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries. You can find the docs that need reviewing here: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ All releases General information Installing Devuan Full disk encryption Network configuration Devuan without D-Bus D-Bus free software Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would be most appreciated. Thanks, The WWW Team ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
I thought some members of the Devuan community made something superior to wicd *and* that silly dbus enthusiast network-manager. SteveT goli...@devuan.org said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 11:27:01 -0500 >Thanks for responding. > >wicd has indeed been removed from Chimaera. Sadly, there are reports >of frustration that the available options are not as intuitive as >wicd. However, there is hope! Someone is looking at transitioning wicd >to python3 so keep your fingers crossed. > >To fill a gap, rrq has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that >will be included in the www documentation. It is already available on >the netinstall isos: >https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html > >golinux > >On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: >> Hello golinux. >> >> I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network >> Configuration* >> section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no >> longer >> distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in >> python2, and >> there has been no release since 2014. >> >> As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a >> possible >> replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which >> advertize >> itself as a slim and low on resources. >> >> As a quick poll, does anybody has a preferred network manager? >> >> >> Ludovic >> >> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> >>> Request to the Devuan community . . . >>> >>> As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some >>> feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which >>> is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should >>> be carried forward for use in Chimaera. >>> >>> These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who >>> provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he >>> has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email >>> queries. >>> >>> You can find the docs that need reviewing here: >>> https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ >>> >>> All releases >>> >>> General information >>> Installing Devuan >>> Full disk encryption >>> Network configuration >>> Devuan without D-Bus >>> D-Bus free software >>> Minimal xorg install >>> Minimal XFCE install >>> >>> Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues >>> would be most appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> The WWW Team >> >> >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
Thanks for responding. wicd has indeed been removed from Chimaera. Sadly, there are reports of frustration that the available options are not as intuitive as wicd. However, there is hope! Someone is looking at transitioning wicd to python3 so keep your fingers crossed. To fill a gap, rrq has provided a "classic" networking "how-to" that will be included in the www documentation. It is already available on the netinstall isos: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso/src/branch/wip/docs/docs/docs/network-configuration.html golinux On 2021-09-18 10:12, Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: Hello golinux. I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network Configuration* section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no longer distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in python2, and there has been no release since 2014. As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a possible replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which advertize itself as a slim and low on resources. As a quick poll, does anybody has a preferred network manager? Ludovic On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Request to the Devuan community . . . As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be carried forward for use in Chimaera. These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries. You can find the docs that need reviewing here: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ All releases General information Installing Devuan Full disk encryption Network configuration Devuan without D-Bus D-Bus free software Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would be most appreciated. Thanks, The WWW Team ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 18 Sep 17:12:54 +0200 Ludovic Bellière via Dng scripsit: > Hello golinux. > > I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network Configuration* > section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no longer > distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in python2, > and > there has been no release since 2014. > > As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a possible > replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which advertize > itself as a slim and low on resources. > > As a quick poll, does anybody has a prefered network manager? network-manager, as it has a TDE package network-manager-tde and that's the desktop I use. And it just works. Nik > > > Ludovic > > On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > >Request to the Devuan community . . . > > > >As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some > >feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is > >applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be > >carried forward for use in Chimaera. > > > >These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided > >updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not > >been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries. > > > >You can find the docs that need reviewing here: > >https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ > > > >All releases > > > >General information > >Installing Devuan > >Full disk encryption > >Network configuration > >Devuan without D-Bus > >D-Bus free software > >Minimal xorg install > >Minimal XFCE install > > > >Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would > >be most appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >The WWW Team > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed
Hello golinux. I found a reference to a dead software used in the *Network Configuration* section. wicd is recommended as network manager, however it is no longer distributed by debian. It has been removed because it is written in python2, and there has been no release since 2014. As I do not use any manager on my system, I remain unaware of a possible replacement. I did, however, look quickly and noticed connman which advertize itself as a slim and low on resources. As a quick poll, does anybody has a prefered network manager? Ludovic On Thu, 16 Sep 2021, goli...@devuan.org wrote: Request to the Devuan community . . . As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be carried forward for use in Chimaera. These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries. You can find the docs that need reviewing here: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ All releases General information Installing Devuan Full disk encryption Network configuration Devuan without D-Bus D-Bus free software Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would be most appreciated. Thanks, The WWW Team signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Review of documentation needed
Request to the Devuan community . . . As we get closer to the Chimaera release, we'd appreciate some feedback on whether the existing documentation listed below, which is applicable to all releases, is still useful/accurate and should be carried forward for use in Chimaera. These documents were written by dev1fanboy aka chillfan who provided updates/corrections from Jessie through Beowulf. Sadly, he has not been seen for a very long time or responded to email queries. You can find the docs that need reviewing here: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ All releases General information Installing Devuan Full disk encryption Network configuration Devuan without D-Bus D-Bus free software Minimal xorg install Minimal XFCE install Your comments and/or corrections especially on technical issues would be most appreciated. Thanks, The WWW Team ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
