Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 00:41:53 +0200
Florian Zieboll via Dng  wrote:

> Dementia


Sorry, I mean: just don't feed it!
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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:48:59 +1000
Ralph Ronnquist  wrote:

> presuamably it now says daedalus with u rather than daedalas ?


Dementia is a b1tch, as tr0lls are...

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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-18 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
presuamably it now says daedalus with u rather than daedalas ?

Ralph.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 04:22:54PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> I apologize for allowing Bob's message to get burried.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 09:02:08PM -0600, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote:
> > Haines Brown wrote:
> > > I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I
> > > did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate
> > > daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera
> > > previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed.
> > 
> > What does this say for you?
> > 
> > apt-cache policy chromium
> > 
> > It should say something similar to this.
> > 
> > root@clash:~# apt-cache policy chromium
> > chromium:
> >   Installed: (none)
> >   Candidate: 100.0.4896.127-1
> >   Version table:
> >  100.0.4896.88-1 500
> > 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian daedalus/main amd64 Packages
> 
> Yes it did
> 
> I stumbled on the reason for my not getting a release file. The 
> line in my sources.list was 
> 
>   deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalas main non-free contrib
> 
> I changed it to 
> 
>   deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalas main
> 
> and the update/upgrade worked. I was then able restore the non-free 
> and contrib and install chromium.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-18 Thread Haines Brown
I apologize for allowing Bob's message to get burried.

On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 09:02:08PM -0600, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote:
> Haines Brown wrote:
> > I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I
> > did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate
> > daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera
> > previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed.
> 
> What does this say for you?
> 
> apt-cache policy chromium
> 
> It should say something similar to this.
> 
> root@clash:~# apt-cache policy chromium
> chromium:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 100.0.4896.127-1
>   Version table:
>  100.0.4896.88-1 500
> 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian daedalus/main amd64 Packages

Yes it did

I stumbled on the reason for my not getting a release file. The 
line in my sources.list was 

  deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalas main non-free contrib

I changed it to 

  deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalas main

and the update/upgrade worked. I was then able restore the non-free 
and contrib and install chromium.



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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-17 Thread Bob Proulx via Dng
Haines Brown wrote:
> My message to the list seems to have gone amiss. This was it:

Your message did not go amiss.  The mailing list saw it.  I replied to
it.  You have replied to my message therefore I know you saw my
message too.  Unfortunately it seems that though we are seeing each
other's messages that we are definitely not communicating.

I am sorry that we are "talking past each other".  I tried to help.
Sorry it did not work out.

Bob


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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-17 Thread Haines Brown
My message to the list seems to have gone amiss. This was it:

On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:10:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Haines Brown  writes:
>
> > A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no
> > problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the
> > daedulus repository. What is that?
>
> I see
>
>   $ apt-cache madison chromium
> chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main 
> amd64 Packages
> chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged 
> chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages
>
> Seems to be there alright.

Thanks, Olaf.

I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I
did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate
daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera
previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed.

I tried $ sudo apt-get --allowUnauthenticated install chromium, but
this command was unable to locate chromium.

I did not create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf/d/99myown with line

  APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true";

because very insecure. In any case I'm not sure it would work

 
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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-16 Thread Bob Proulx via Dng
Haines Brown wrote:
> I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I
> did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate
> daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera
> previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed.

What does this say for you?

apt-cache policy chromium

It should say something similar to this.

root@clash:~# apt-cache policy chromium
chromium:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 100.0.4896.127-1
  Version table:
 100.0.4896.88-1 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian daedalus/main amd64 Packages

If it does not then investigate why not.

It's just possible that having changed suites that apt is waiting for
an acknowledgment.  This was added in some recent year.

   --allow-releaseinfo-change
   Allow the update command to continue downloading data from a
   repository which changed its information of the release contained
   in the repository indicating e.g a new major release. APT will fail
   at the update command for such repositories until the change is
   confirmed to ensure the user is prepared for the change. See also
   apt-secure(8) for details on the concept and configuration.

   Specialist options (--allow-releaseinfo-change-field) exist to
   allow changes only for certain fields like origin, label, codename,
   suite, version and defaultpin. See also apt_preferences(5).
   Configuration Item: Acquire::AllowReleaseInfoChange.

To acknowledge the change do this as root.

apt-get update --allow-releaseinfo-change
apt-get update

Then follow the acknowledgment by another update.  It's confusing but
as far as I can see from documentation and experimentation it needs
both of those.  The first to acknowledge and the second to actually do
the update of the new Packages indexes.  After that everything should
be available.

> I tried $ sudo apt-get --allowUnauthenticated install chromium, but
> this command was unable to locate chromium.
>
> I did not create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf/d/99myown with line
>
>   APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true";
>
> because very insecure. In any case I'm not sure it would work

The main useful purpose of --allow-unauthenticated is for *older*
releases in the archive that have expired keys.  Because those are
archived they are not getting signed with updated keys.  The original
signatures are still as indicative as before but now they have expired.

   --allow-unauthenticated
   Ignore if packages can't be authenticated and don't prompt about
   it. This can be useful while working with local repositories, but
   is a huge security risk if data authenticity isn't ensured in
   another way by the user itself. The usage of the Trusted option for
   sources.list(5) entries should usually be preferred over this
   global override. Configuration Item:
   APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated.


Daedalus is currently active and there should be no need to use the
--allow-unauthenticated option.

It's also useful for unsigned local repositories and other uses too.
Not to give the idea that it isn't ever useful.  But it worries me to
be used for Daedalus on the currently active reposities.

Bob


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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-16 Thread Haines Brown
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:10:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Haines Brown  writes:
> 
> > A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no
> > problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the
> > daedulus repository. What is that?
> 
> I see
> 
>   $ apt-cache madison chromium
> chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main 
> amd64 Packages
> chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged 
> chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages
> 
> Seems to be there alright.

Thanks, Olaf.

I still get "Unable to locate package chromium". It seems that when I 
did update/dist-upgrade after modifying sources.list to accommodate 
daedulus I did not get the no InRelease file error. The chimaera 
previously installed on this disk did not have chromium installed.

I tried $ sudo apt-get --allowUnauthenticated install chromium, but 
this command was unable to locate chromium. 

I did not create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf/d/99myown with line 

  APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true"; 

because very insecure. In any case I'm not sure it would work
  
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Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi,

Haines Brown  writes:

> A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no
> problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the
> daedulus repository. What is that?

I see

  $ apt-cache madison chromium
chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main 
amd64 Packages
chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged 
chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages

Seems to be there alright.

Hope this helps,
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[DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-15 Thread Haines Brown
A simple little question. I installed daedulus on a spare machine (no 
problems), but was dissapointed to find that chromium is not in the 
daedulus repository. What is that?


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