Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Problem with domain names containing 3 or more minus in a row

2021-03-12 Thread Simon Kelley
Dnsmasq can be linked with the IDN library, which deals with non-ascii
characters in domain names and converst them to punycode. I suspect that
the IDN library may well barf when given a name containing punycode already.

dnsmasq -v

should tell you if IDn is in use or not, in the compile time options.


Simon.


On 11/03/2021 19:08, psycl...@web.de wrote:
> Hi wkitty42,
>  
> thanks for the reply.
> This punycode indeed is a good startr.
>  
> I found a website that converts punycode to plain text and apparently
> only one of five domains seems to be punycode.
>  
> Please don't click them, they are considered to be malicious:
> address=/00.00.1596.hk/
> address=/00-0.0n-line.info/
> address=/9--9.tk/
> address=/apple.commacupdate.info/
> address=/xnylbefiabzfr6bln8a2ef.gr/
>  
> The last one is in fact valid puneycode. It has kyrillic/greek letters.
>  
> The first 4 domains seems to be none puneycode, maybe only made to
> distract scanner and possibly maybe even dns-blacklists?
>  
> I didn't try to use the converted sample yet, since problems starting
> dnsmask already occur with the 1st domain.
> Also I don't know how to convert possible ouneycode by script.
>  
> Anyway, thank you very much for the heads up.
>  
>  
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 08. März 2021 um 13:49 Uhr
> *Von:* wkitt...@gmail.com
> *An:* dnsmasq-discuss@lists.thekelleys.org.uk
> *Betreff:* Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Problem with domain names containing 3
> or more minus in a row
> On 3/8/21 3:31 AM, psycl...@web.de wrote:
>> Therefore I use lists called "Shalla's Blacklists" that happen to have
> domains
>> with multiple minus in a form like this XX.XX.1596.hk. (This
> is not the
>> actual domain, since it is malicious I changed one letter to X).
> 
> eWAG in progress:
> on first read, "punycode" comes to mind... it appears that you are trying to
> block domains which use non-latin characters in their domain names...
> have you
> tried using the actual characters instead of the punycode equivalents?
> 
> for more info on "punycode" here's a link i found in a quick search...
> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/03/look-alike-domains-and-visual-confusion/comment-page-1/
> 
> personally speaking, i don't know how dnsmasq works with non-latin character
> domain names... i don't recall reading anything specific about it in the
> last
> years i've been on the list... i look forward, with anticipation, on further
> discussion about this and how dnsmasq can work with the original and
> punycode
> formats for the same domain name...
> 
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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Problem with domain names containing 3 or more minus in a row

2021-03-11 Thread PsyclopS
Hi wkitty42,

 

thanks for the reply.

This punycode indeed is a good startr.

 

I found a website that converts punycode to plain text and apparently only one of five domains seems to be punycode.

 

Please don't click them, they are considered to be malicious:

address=/00.00.1596.hk/
address=/00-0.0n-line.info/
address=/9--9.tk/
address=/apple.commacupdate.info/
address=/xnylbefiabzfr6bln8a2ef.gr/

 

The last one is in fact valid puneycode. It has kyrillic/greek letters.

 

The first 4 domains seems to be none puneycode, maybe only made to distract scanner and possibly maybe even dns-blacklists?

 

I didn't try to use the converted sample yet, since problems starting dnsmask already occur with the 1st domain.

Also I don't know how to convert possible ouneycode by script.


 

Anyway, thank you very much for the heads up.

 

 

Gesendet: Montag, 08. März 2021 um 13:49 Uhr
Von: wkitt...@gmail.com
An: dnsmasq-discuss@lists.thekelleys.org.uk
Betreff: Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Problem with domain names containing 3 or more minus in a row

On 3/8/21 3:31 AM, psycl...@web.de wrote:
> Therefore I use lists called "Shalla's Blacklists" that happen to have domains
> with multiple minus in a form like this XX.XX.1596.hk. (This is not the
> actual domain, since it is malicious I changed one letter to X).

eWAG in progress:
on first read, "punycode" comes to mind... it appears that you are trying to
block domains which use non-latin characters in their domain names... have you
tried using the actual characters instead of the punycode equivalents?

for more info on "punycode" here's a link i found in a quick search...
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/03/look-alike-domains-and-visual-confusion/comment-page-1/

personally speaking, i don't know how dnsmasq works with non-latin character
domain names... i don't recall reading anything specific about it in the last
years i've been on the list... i look forward, with anticipation, on further
discussion about this and how dnsmasq can work with the original and punycode
formats for the same domain name...

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Problem with domain names containing 3 or more minus in a row

2021-03-08 Thread wkitty42

On 3/8/21 3:31 AM, psycl...@web.de wrote:
Therefore I use lists called "Shalla's Blacklists" that happen to have domains 
with multiple minus in a form like this XX.XX.1596.hk. (This is not the 
actual domain, since it is malicious I changed one letter to X).


eWAG in progress:
on first read, "punycode" comes to mind... it appears that you are trying to 
block domains which use non-latin characters in their domain names... have you 
tried using the actual characters instead of the punycode equivalents?


for more info on "punycode" here's a link i found in a quick search...
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/03/look-alike-domains-and-visual-confusion/comment-page-1/

personally speaking, i don't know how dnsmasq works with non-latin character 
domain names... i don't recall reading anything specific about it in the last 
years i've been on the list... i look forward, with anticipation, on further 
discussion about this and how dnsmasq can work with the original and punycode 
formats for the same domain name...


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