Re: DOCBOOK: alphabetical list of docbook 4.2 elements anywhere?

2002-08-15 Thread Georges Schmitz

Dave Pawson wrote:
  At 01:59 14/08/2002, you wrote:
 
 c) after detecting that member is missing, I controlled its
   half-brothers: varlistentry, term and seglistitem are missing
   too in the refcards

  Question.
  When using docbook, is it the 'main' elements that require most
  thought, or the 'sub' elements such as member?
 varlistentry term etc, seem 'half life' entries.

I don't quite understand? I thought that you wanted to make the
ref cards more complete. Or do you simply mean semantically
regrouping the 'half life' entries?

What about modifying

   Cross References 1,2,3

into something like

   Citation Reference
   (Hyper-)Linking
   Index Reference


I made a diff to your http://www.dpawson.co.uk/docbook/qrefplain.xml
(1 week old version) and - frightened - there are really a lot of
rather standard elements (footnote, refpurpose, qanda... ) missing. I
attached the complete list of missing elements from qrefplain.xml to
DocBook V4.2.

Regards,
Georges


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Re: DOCBOOK: alphabetical list of docbook 4.2 elements anywhere?

2002-08-14 Thread Georges Schmitz

Dave Pawson wrote:
  At 08:00 13/08/2002, you wrote:
 
 member is missing in Lists
 
  Mmmm. No its not (one view).
 
  The 'Lists' is a list of 'types' of lists,
  not  a list of what children are available?
 
  Its to answer the question, I want to insert a list,
  what type of lists are there in dbook.
Unless you are using it differently ;-)

Three things:

a) member wasn't there at all

b) if member shouldn't be under Lists, then listitem shouldn't
be there either ;-)  aha, caught you!

c) after detecting that member is missing, I controlled its
half-brothers: varlistentry, term and seglistitem are missing
too in the refcards

Greetings,
Georges

PS
All this still applies to DTD 4.1.2




RE: DOCBOOK: alphabetical list of docbook 4.2 elements anywhere?

2002-08-12 Thread Dave Pawson

At 16:37 05/08/2002, David Cramer wrote:
http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html It's officially an alpha
version of the book, but I have a feeling Norm will chime in and tell us
whether all the new elements are there :)

Some folks are also working on a handy reference card, tho it appears
not to have all the 4.2 elements in it:

Hi David.
Are you sufficiently aware of the 'new' (4.2) elements to provide them please?
If so, I'll  update and identify it as 4.2 docbook.
  Since the list came from Norm, I (possibly wrongly) assumed it was up to date :-)

TIA, regards DaveP





RE: DOCBOOK: alphabetical list of docbook 4.2 elements anywhere?

2002-08-12 Thread Dave Pawson

At 11:12 12/08/2002, David Cramer wrote:
Sorry, I'm not. That comment was based only on a quick spot check
comparing elements having the v4.2 icon at
http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html and the ref cards. I noticed
that things like bibliocoverage, bibliorelation, bibliosource, were
omitted from the cards (though v4.2 elements like biblioid, blockinfo,
coref, errortext, etc. are there).

OK, Thanks David.

Norm told me that CVS had the source of the file I used on OASIS
(yes I should have remembered where :-).

I'll hunt for it.

Regards DaveP.





RE: DOCBOOK: alphabetical list of docbook 4.2 elements anywhere?

2002-08-11 Thread Steffen Maier

On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Richard Lander wrote:
  You could write a quick transform against the schema version of docbook.
  It wouldn't take more than 10 minutes ...

 what is this You could stuff?  i'm already sufficiently challenged
 learning docbook, xsltproc, emacs and psgml at the same time already. :-)

 but, at oasis-open, the most recent schema link is to 4.1.2.3, as i
 read it.  no 4.2, and there is a clear disclaimer that There is no
 official XML Schema version.  so what should i conclude from this?

Speaking of learning psgml ;-), I could suggest writing a simple DocBook
document within psgml-mode only containing the desired doctype
declaration. Force psgml to parse the DTD with C-c C-p if not done
already. Then select menuitem DTD - Info - List elements
(alternatively activate the same function by M-x sgml-list-elements), et
voilĂ .  Well, might not be the format you intended to get but using emacs'
rectangle commands or maybe even piping appropriate cut and sort commands
in a shell lead you there. And the best: It uses SGML/XML DTD directly so
you should be on the safe side with respect to the official version.

Bye,
Steffen.

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