Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Hi, Thank you everyone! With the info on that fop configuration for custom setup I was able to get fop to actually use the xconf fileso much trouble because I had thought fop had been using the standard system configuration file by default, but it does not. Edits to use the required font mentioned in earlier replies now works...it just goes to show...be careful what you edit, it might not be the file being used! Fonts now work as they should and include the previously missing glyphs. The quick workaround is to add the "-c /usr/share/fop/conf/fop.xconf". That custom font script though adds a lot to making sure doc builds are more predictable. I think I do need to ask the fop people why the dump of current configuration details fails. If this had been working I might have seen earlier that the expected xconf file was not used...I'm still curious as to where its configuration is really from. The base-14 fonts are standard so perhaps no config file was used at all and these are just built in...fop just doesn't want to tell me about its configuration. Thanks! - Original Message -From: DeanNelson@aol.comTo: stim...@comcast.net, docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.orgSent: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:38:19 - (UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 I use DejaVu fonts with FOP on both Windows and Linux. I use my own config file via "-c configFile.xml" switch with FOPs command line to override the standard config. The integration with DejaVu fonts is pretty straight forward. This may help you - attached is part of the script that I use on Linux to call FOP and also the configuration file. You should be able to comment out the DejaVu parts of the config file and see your fonts return to default. If not, I would check the fop script that starts FOP. (using 'which fop' to locate it) Good luck. Dean Nelson In a message dated 2/2/2017 2:19:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, stim...@comcast.net writes: This is turning out to be odd...I have to conclude that fop is not reading any configuration files...especially none named "fop.xconf". The short story is that I can intentionally introduce errors in fop.xconf (all occurrences on the computer as verified by updatedb and locate .xconf), introduce "true", and no mention of anything different occurs. I can run this under strace, and I see no calls at all referring to opening any xconf file (nor any attempt to do so). Somehow I need to figure out how fop is configured since the installed xconf files are ignored. Here's a summary of how I go there: The DejaVuSans fonts do contain the character glyphs, and this is what I've been trying to switch to instead of Helvetica for the sans-serif. It was determined that param.xsl picks between serif and sans-serif by naming one of these: serif sans-serif When changing between serif and sans-serif vi param.xsl edits, it is verified that that either Times or Helvetica are used upon switch. This works as expected. I added the fop option "-d" to debug...this did not indicate any error, though it was more explicit about not finding glyphs. After that I tried the strict-configuration modification. No change. I looked for any possible occurrence of fop.xconf, these two exist (I don't know how they differ), I intentionally tried to break both for warning information: /usr/share/fop/conf/fop.xconf/usr/share/publican/fop/fop.xconf This had no effect, so this is when I tried strace. It seems fop does not use external configuration file searches, and I don't know why...so I can't actually add DejaVuSans. I'm currently trying to figure out where there is a mailing list or other support for fop. Incidentally, the "fop -x" command to dump configuration fails...it wants an input file or it won't tell me anything about configuration. Thanks everyone for the help! - Original Message -From: Dave Pawson <dave.paw...@gmail.com>To: Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net>Cc: stim...@comcast.net, Docbook <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>Sent: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 06:37:36 - (UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 Perhaps start where the problem is. Look for a font which containsthe glyphs for the Unicode code points you want to use. Check thecode points produce the glyphs you want.Find out how the app (fop and any others you use in your tool chain)selects fonts.Run the app knowing that the font has what you want and your codepoints are correct. HTH On 1 February 2017 at 23:44, Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> wrote:> Im getting out of my depth on fop, so maybe someone else on the list can help here.>> However, diving in deeper than I should:-)I suspect the problem is number 1.>> I suggest running fop with the -d (debug) mode, and you might also try -x,
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/maillist.html is the fop mailing list, if your issue is simply with fop? regards On 2 February 2017 at 22:19, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote: > This is turning out to be odd...I have to conclude that fop is not reading > any configuration files...especially none named "fop.xconf". The short story > is that I can intentionally introduce errors in fop.xconf (all occurrences > on the computer as verified by updatedb and locate .xconf), introduce > "true", and no mention of > anything different occurs. I can run this under strace, and I see no calls > at all referring to opening any xconf file (nor any attempt to do so). > Somehow I need to figure out how fop is configured since the installed xconf > files are ignored. > > Here's a summary of how I go there: > > The DejaVuSans fonts do contain the character glyphs, and this is what I've > been trying to switch to instead of Helvetica for the sans-serif. > > It was determined that param.xsl picks between serif and sans-serif by > naming one of these: > serif > sans-serif > > When changing between serif and sans-serif vi param.xsl edits, it is > verified that that either Times or Helvetica are used upon switch. This > works as expected. > > I added the fop option "-d" to debug...this did not indicate any error, > though it was more explicit about not finding glyphs. After that I tried the > strict-configuration modification. No change. I looked for any possible > occurrence of fop.xconf, these two exist (I don't know how they differ), I > intentionally tried to break both for warning information: > /usr/share/fop/conf/fop.xconf > /usr/share/publican/fop/fop.xconf > > This had no effect, so this is when I tried strace. It seems fop does not > use external configuration file searches, and I don't know why...so I can't > actually add DejaVuSans. I'm currently trying to figure out where there is a > mailing list or other support for fop. Incidentally, the "fop -x" command to > dump configuration fails...it wants an input file or it won't tell me > anything about configuration. > > Thanks everyone for the help! > > - Original Message - > From: Dave Pawson <dave.paw...@gmail.com> > To: Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> > Cc: stim...@comcast.net, Docbook <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org> > Sent: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 06:37:36 - (UTC) > Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 > Perhaps start where the problem is. Look for a font which contains > the glyphs for the Unicode code points you want to use. Check the > code points produce the glyphs you want. > Find out how the app (fop and any others you use in your tool chain) > selects fonts. > Run the app knowing that the font has what you want and your code > points are correct. > HTH > On 1 February 2017 at 23:44, Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> wrote: >> I’m getting out of my depth on fop, so maybe someone else on the list can >> help here. >> >> However, diving in deeper than I should:-)I suspect the problem is number >> 1. >> >> I suggest running fop with the -d (debug) mode, and you might also try -x, >> which will dump the configuration; that way you can see if the configuration >> fop uses is what you think it is using. >> >> Good luck, >> Dick >> --- >> XML Press >> XML for Technical Communicators >> http://xmlpress.net >> hamil...@xmlpress.net >> >> >> >>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 15:21, stim...@comcast.net wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> So what my experimenting shows so far for trying to change font is that I >>> can adjust param.xsl and switch between serif or sans-serif. The result >>> depends on what is available in fop.xconf which lists Times-Roman for serif, >>> and Helvetica for sans-serif. I've attempted to add an additional font >>> definition for DejaVuSans by the following inside the of fop.xconf: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I am unable to name "DejaVuSans" instead of "sans-serif" in param.xsl (it >>> falls back to Symbol). I see three possibilities... >>> 1. My DejaVuSans declaration is wrong. >>> 2. I have to remove Helvetica in fop.xconf from the sans-serif listings. >>> 3. The Docbook parameters you mentioned are somewhere outside of >>> fop.xconf or param.xsl. >>> >>> It seems unlikely I need to remove Helvetica, more likely there is >>> another configuration elsewhere. However, I don't see any occurrence of >>> &qu
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
This is turning out to be odd...I have to conclude that fop is not reading any configuration files...especially none named "fop.xconf". The short story is that I can intentionally introduce errors in fop.xconf (all occurrences on the computer as verified by updatedb and locate .xconf), introduce "true", and no mention of anything different occurs. I can run this under strace, and I see no calls at all referring to opening any xconf file (nor any attempt to do so). Somehow I need to figure out how fop is configured since the installed xconf files are ignored. Here's a summary of how I go there: The DejaVuSans fonts do contain the character glyphs, and this is what I've been trying to switch to instead of Helvetica for the sans-serif. It was determined that param.xsl picks between serif and sans-serif by naming one of these: serif sans-serif When changing between serif and sans-serif vi param.xsl edits, it is verified that that either Times or Helvetica are used upon switch. This works as expected. I added the fop option "-d" to debug...this did not indicate any error, though it was more explicit about not finding glyphs. After that I tried the strict-configuration modification. No change. I looked for any possible occurrence of fop.xconf, these two exist (I don't know how they differ), I intentionally tried to break both for warning information: /usr/share/fop/conf/fop.xconf/usr/share/publican/fop/fop.xconf This had no effect, so this is when I tried strace. It seems fop does not use external configuration file searches, and I don't know why...so I can't actually add DejaVuSans. I'm currently trying to figure out where there is a mailing list or other support for fop. Incidentally, the "fop -x" command to dump configuration fails...it wants an input file or it won't tell me anything about configuration. Thanks everyone for the help! - Original Message -From: Dave Pawson <dave.paw...@gmail.com>To: Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net>Cc: stim...@comcast.net, Docbook <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>Sent: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 06:37:36 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 Perhaps start where the problem is. Look for a font which containsthe glyphs for the Unicode code points you want to use. Check thecode points produce the glyphs you want.Find out how the app (fop and any others you use in your tool chain)selects fonts.Run the app knowing that the font has what you want and your codepoints are correct. HTH On 1 February 2017 at 23:44, Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> wrote:> Im getting out of my depth on fop, so maybe someone else on the list can help here.>> However, diving in deeper than I should:-)I suspect the problem is number 1.>> I suggest running fop with the -d (debug) mode, and you might also try -x, which will dump the configuration; that way you can see if the configuration fop uses is what you think it is using.>> Good luck,> Dick> ---> XML Press> XML for Technical Communicators> http://xmlpress.net> hamil...@xmlpress.net>>>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 15:21, stim...@comcast.net wrote:>>>> Hi,>>>> So what my experimenting shows so far for trying to change font is that I can adjust param.xsl and switch between serif or sans-serif. The result depends on what is available in fop.xconf which lists Times-Roman for serif, and Helvetica for sans-serif. I've attempted to add an additional font definition for DejaVuSans by the following inside the of fop.xconf:>>>> >> >> >> >>>> I am unable to name "DejaVuSans" instead of "sans-serif" in param.xsl (it falls back to Symbol). I see three possibilities...>> 1. My DejaVuSans declaration is wrong.>> 2. I have to remove Helvetica in fop.xconf from the sans-serif listings.>> 3. The Docbook parameters you mentioned are somewhere outside of fop.xconf or param.xsl.>>>> It seems unlikely I need to remove Helvetica, more likely there is another configuration elsewhere. However, I don't see any occurrence of "Helvetica" in any of the other Docbook files under the "stylesheet/docbook-xsl-ns-1.79.1/" directory tree which are related to this case (for example, there is a subdirectory for "slides" which would seem to be unrelated to the "book" being published to pdf). The full path to the ttf font file is available and readable to everyone; this is verifiable with a font editor (one reason to choose DejaVu is that the font editor actually shows the desired box drawing font glyphs at index 0x2500 and on).>>>> Am I missing another file to edit, or am I simply using the wrong syntax for my addition of DejaVuSans?>>>> Thanks!>>>> - Origi
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Perhaps start where the problem is. Look for a font which contains the glyphs for the Unicode code points you want to use. Check the code points produce the glyphs you want. Find out how the app (fop and any others you use in your tool chain) selects fonts. Run the app knowing that the font has what you want and your code points are correct. HTH On 1 February 2017 at 23:44, Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> wrote: > I’m getting out of my depth on fop, so maybe someone else on the list can > help here. > > However, diving in deeper than I should:-)I suspect the problem is number 1. > > I suggest running fop with the -d (debug) mode, and you might also try -x, > which will dump the configuration; that way you can see if the configuration > fop uses is what you think it is using. > > Good luck, > Dick > --- > XML Press > XML for Technical Communicators > http://xmlpress.net > hamil...@xmlpress.net > > > >> On Feb 1, 2017, at 15:21, stim...@comcast.net wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> So what my experimenting shows so far for trying to change font is that I >> can adjust param.xsl and switch between serif or sans-serif. The result >> depends on what is available in fop.xconf which lists Times-Roman for serif, >> and Helvetica for sans-serif. I've attempted to add an additional font >> definition for DejaVuSans by the following inside the of fop.xconf: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am unable to name "DejaVuSans" instead of "sans-serif" in param.xsl (it >> falls back to Symbol). I see three possibilities... >> 1. My DejaVuSans declaration is wrong. >> 2. I have to remove Helvetica in fop.xconf from the sans-serif listings. >> 3. The Docbook parameters you mentioned are somewhere outside of fop.xconf >> or param.xsl. >> >> It seems unlikely I need to remove Helvetica, more likely there is another >> configuration elsewhere. However, I don't see any occurrence of "Helvetica" >> in any of the other Docbook files under the >> "stylesheet/docbook-xsl-ns-1.79.1/" directory tree which are related to this >> case (for example, there is a subdirectory for "slides" which would seem to >> be unrelated to the "book" being published to pdf). The full path to the ttf >> font file is available and readable to everyone; this is verifiable with a >> font editor (one reason to choose DejaVu is that the font editor actually >> shows the desired box drawing font glyphs at index 0x2500 and on). >> >> Am I missing another file to edit, or am I simply using the wrong syntax for >> my addition of DejaVuSans? >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> >> To: stim...@comcast.net >> Cc: Docbook <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org> >> Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:36:59 - (UTC) >> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 >> Hi, >> There are two steps to the font assignment process: 1) configuring fop’s >> fonts and 2) setting DocBook parameters to call the fonts you have >> configured in fop. >> In this case, the mapping between serif and Times (and sans-serif and >> Helvetica) happens in the fop configuration file, fop.xconf. >> So, when you set the DocBook parameter to sans-serif, fop defaults to >> Helvetica. If you want sans-serif to default to something else, or if you >> want to add a font, you need to change the configuration in fop.xconf. Once >> you have configured fop to recognize a font, you can refer to it from the >> DocBook parameters using the name you have associated with the font in >> fop.xconf. If you look in your fop.xconf file, you will find that the >> definition for Times contains several instances of the >> element, each of which defines a name you can use for that font, along with >> information about style and weight. >> This page has some information on configuring the fop.xconf file for fonts: >> https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.1/fonts.html >> Best regards, >> Dick Hamilton >> --- >> XML Press >> XML for Technical Communicators >> http://xmlpress.net >> hamil...@xmlpress.net >> > On Feb 1, 2017, at 11:53, stim...@comcast.net wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I tested this by changing body.font.family to sans-serif. The document did >> > successfully switch, and used Helvetica. Unfortunately, Helvetica also >> > lacks the box drawing characters. Is there a configuration file used for a >> > g
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
I’m getting out of my depth on fop, so maybe someone else on the list can help here. However, diving in deeper than I should:-)I suspect the problem is number 1. I suggest running fop with the -d (debug) mode, and you might also try -x, which will dump the configuration; that way you can see if the configuration fop uses is what you think it is using. Good luck, Dick --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net > On Feb 1, 2017, at 15:21, stim...@comcast.net wrote: > > Hi, > > So what my experimenting shows so far for trying to change font is that I can > adjust param.xsl and switch between serif or sans-serif. The result depends > on what is available in fop.xconf which lists Times-Roman for serif, and > Helvetica for sans-serif. I've attempted to add an additional font definition > for DejaVuSans by the following inside the of fop.xconf: > > > > > > > I am unable to name "DejaVuSans" instead of "sans-serif" in param.xsl (it > falls back to Symbol). I see three possibilities... > 1. My DejaVuSans declaration is wrong. > 2. I have to remove Helvetica in fop.xconf from the sans-serif listings. > 3. The Docbook parameters you mentioned are somewhere outside of fop.xconf or > param.xsl. > > It seems unlikely I need to remove Helvetica, more likely there is another > configuration elsewhere. However, I don't see any occurrence of "Helvetica" > in any of the other Docbook files under the > "stylesheet/docbook-xsl-ns-1.79.1/" directory tree which are related to this > case (for example, there is a subdirectory for "slides" which would seem to > be unrelated to the "book" being published to pdf). The full path to the ttf > font file is available and readable to everyone; this is verifiable with a > font editor (one reason to choose DejaVu is that the font editor actually > shows the desired box drawing font glyphs at index 0x2500 and on). > > Am I missing another file to edit, or am I simply using the wrong syntax for > my addition of DejaVuSans? > > Thanks! > > - Original Message - > From: Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net> > To: stim...@comcast.net > Cc: Docbook <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org> > Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:36:59 - (UTC) > Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 > Hi, > There are two steps to the font assignment process: 1) configuring fop’s > fonts and 2) setting DocBook parameters to call the fonts you have configured > in fop. > In this case, the mapping between serif and Times (and sans-serif and > Helvetica) happens in the fop configuration file, fop.xconf. > So, when you set the DocBook parameter to sans-serif, fop defaults to > Helvetica. If you want sans-serif to default to something else, or if you > want to add a font, you need to change the configuration in fop.xconf. Once > you have configured fop to recognize a font, you can refer to it from the > DocBook parameters using the name you have associated with the font in > fop.xconf. If you look in your fop.xconf file, you will find that the > definition for Times contains several instances of the > element, each of which defines a name you can use for that font, along with > information about style and weight. > This page has some information on configuring the fop.xconf file for fonts: > https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.1/fonts.html > Best regards, > Dick Hamilton > --- > XML Press > XML for Technical Communicators > http://xmlpress.net > hamil...@xmlpress.net > > On Feb 1, 2017, at 11:53, stim...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I tested this by changing body.font.family to sans-serif. The document did > > successfully switch, and used Helvetica. Unfortunately, Helvetica also > > lacks the box drawing characters. Is there a configuration file used for a > > given Docbook 5.1 installation which maps "Times Roman" to serif, and > > "Helvetica" to sans-serif? I think this is the key to getting those box > > drawing characters to work...perhaps if I can remap serif and sans-serif to > > valid fonts other than Helvetica and Times Roman it would work with those > > characters. > > > > Thanks! > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Bob Stayton <b...@sagehill.net> > > To: stim...@comcast.net, docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org > > Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:51:04 - (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 > > Hi, > > If by system-wide you mean everyone sharing one DocBook XSL > > installation
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Hi, So what my experimenting shows so far for trying to change font is that I can adjust param.xsl and switch between serif or sans-serif. The result depends on what is available in fop.xconf which lists Times-Roman for serif, and Helvetica for sans-serif. I've attempted to add an additional font definition for DejaVuSans by the following inside the of fop.xconf: I am unable to name "DejaVuSans" instead of "sans-serif" in param.xsl (it falls back to Symbol). I see three possibilities... 1. My DejaVuSans declaration is wrong. 2. I have to remove Helvetica in fop.xconf from the sans-serif listings. 3. The Docbook parameters you mentioned are somewhere outside of fop.xconf or param.xsl. It seems unlikely I need to remove Helvetica, more likely there is another configuration elsewhere. However, I don't see any occurrence of "Helvetica" in any of the other Docbook files under the "stylesheet/docbook-xsl-ns-1.79.1/" directory tree which are related to this case (for example, there is a subdirectory for "slides" which would seem to be unrelated to the "book" being published to pdf). The full path to the ttf font file is available and readable to everyone; this is verifiable with a font editor (one reason to choose DejaVu is that the font editor actually shows the desired box drawing font glyphs at index 0x2500 and on). Am I missing another file to edit, or am I simply using the wrong syntax for my addition of DejaVuSans? Thanks! - Original Message -From: Richard Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net>To: stimits@comcast.netCc: Docbook <docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:36:59 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 Hi, There are two steps to the font assignment process: 1) configuring fops fonts and 2) setting DocBook parameters to call the fonts you have configured in fop. In this case, the mapping between serif and Times (and sans-serif and Helvetica) happens in the fop configuration file, fop.xconf. So, when you set the DocBook parameter to sans-serif, fop defaults to Helvetica. If you want sans-serif to default to something else, or if you want to add a font, you need to change the configuration in fop.xconf. Once you have configured fop to recognize a font, you can refer to it from the DocBook parameters using the name you have associated with the font in fop.xconf. If you look in your fop.xconf file, you will find that the definition for Times contains several instances of the element, each of which defines a name you can use for that font, along with information about style and weight. This page has some information on configuring the fop.xconf file for fonts: https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.1/fonts.html Best regards,Dick Hamilton---XML PressXML for Technical Communicatorshttp://xmlpress.nethamil...@xmlpress.net > On Feb 1, 2017, at 11:53, stim...@comcast.net wrote:> > Hi,> > I tested this > by changing body.font.family to sans-serif. The document did successfully > switch, and used Helvetica. Unfortunately, Helvetica also lacks the box > drawing characters. Is there a configuration file used for a given Docbook > 5.1 installation which maps "Times Roman" to serif, and "Helvetica" to > sans-serif? I think this is the key to getting those box drawing characters > to work...perhaps if I can remap serif and sans-serif to valid fonts other > than Helvetica and Times Roman it would work with those characters.> > > Thanks!> > - Original Message -> From: Bob Stayton > <b...@sagehill.net>> To: stim...@comcast.net, > docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:51:04 - > (UTC)> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1> Hi,> > If by system-wide you mean everyone sharing one DocBook XSL > installation, > you could edit the parameters file for that installation. > Find the file > named fo/param.xsl and change these stylesheet parameters:> name="body.font.family">serif> name="title.font.family">sans-serif> All of the stylesheet params > are documented here:> > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/fo/index.html> > Bob > Stayton> Sagehill Enterprises> b...@sagehill.net> On 2/1/2017 10:22 AM, > stim...@comcast.net wrote:> > I just wanted to add some information from > reading build logs for the> > document. It turns out the error shows up under > "fop" because the> > particular font does not support this character (I'm > surprised> > Times-Roman does not have this by default since just about > every> > application on the system has the character):> > WARNING: Glyph "├" > (0x251
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Hi, There are two steps to the font assignment process: 1) configuring fop’s fonts and 2) setting DocBook parameters to call the fonts you have configured in fop. In this case, the mapping between serif and Times (and sans-serif and Helvetica) happens in the fop configuration file, fop.xconf. So, when you set the DocBook parameter to sans-serif, fop defaults to Helvetica. If you want sans-serif to default to something else, or if you want to add a font, you need to change the configuration in fop.xconf. Once you have configured fop to recognize a font, you can refer to it from the DocBook parameters using the name you have associated with the font in fop.xconf. If you look in your fop.xconf file, you will find that the definition for Times contains several instances of the element, each of which defines a name you can use for that font, along with information about style and weight. This page has some information on configuring the fop.xconf file for fonts: https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.1/fonts.html Best regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net > On Feb 1, 2017, at 11:53, stim...@comcast.net wrote: > > Hi, > > I tested this by changing body.font.family to sans-serif. The document did > successfully switch, and used Helvetica. Unfortunately, Helvetica also lacks > the box drawing characters. Is there a configuration file used for a given > Docbook 5.1 installation which maps "Times Roman" to serif, and "Helvetica" > to sans-serif? I think this is the key to getting those box drawing > characters to work...perhaps if I can remap serif and sans-serif to valid > fonts other than Helvetica and Times Roman it would work with those > characters. > > Thanks! > > - Original Message - > From: Bob Stayton <b...@sagehill.net> > To: stim...@comcast.net, docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org > Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:51:04 - (UTC) > Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 > Hi, > If by system-wide you mean everyone sharing one DocBook XSL > installation, you could edit the parameters file for that installation. > Find the file named fo/param.xsl and change these stylesheet parameters: > serif > sans-serif > All of the stylesheet params are documented here: > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/fo/index.html > > Bob Stayton > Sagehill Enterprises > b...@sagehill.net > On 2/1/2017 10:22 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote: > > I just wanted to add some information from reading build logs for the > > document. It turns out the error shows up under "fop" because the > > particular font does not support this character (I'm surprised > > Times-Roman does not have this by default since just about every > > application on the system has the character): > > WARNING: Glyph "├" (0x251c, SF08) not available in font "Times-Roman". > > > > The trouble here is I now want to change this for the system as a whole, > > not just on the document (I want to avoid any project using > > Times-Roman). I am curious if there is some simple way under Linux to > > find out which fonts fop has available, and how to change the default > > font family for all Docbook publishing via a system-wide setting? I've > > found many documents on modifying Docbook behavior within source code, > > but not much seems to exist on system-wide Docbook configuration from a > > system administrator's point of view...if anyone has a URL for > > information on specifics of tuning Docbook defaults under Linux I'd be > > very happy! > > > > Thanks! > > > > - Original Message - > > From: stim...@comcast.net > > To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org > > Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:20:24 - (UTC) > > Subject: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 > > Hi, > > > > I'm working on a Linux machine which has UTF-8 encoding. The docbook 5.1 > > I'm working with is declared: > > > > > > > ]> > > > > Entities changed a while back (relaxng changed things), but so far as I > > know I should still be able to work with numeric entities when using odd > > characters which are part of UTF-8. I'm trying to get some box drawing > > characters to work, specifically because I need to illustrate a file > > directory structure which has been output like this from the "tree -d" > > command. Here's a short sample: > >> tree -d -L 2 /etc | tail -n 20 | tail -n 6 > > │ ├── pluginconf.d > > │ ├── protected.d > > │ └── vars > > └── yum.repos.d > > > > As you can see
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Hi, I tested this by changing body.font.family to sans-serif. The document did successfully switch, and used Helvetica. Unfortunately, Helvetica also lacks the box drawing characters. Is there a configuration file used for a given Docbook 5.1 installation which maps "Times Roman" to serif, and "Helvetica" to sans-serif? I think this is the key to getting those box drawing characters to work...perhaps if I can remap serif and sans-serif to valid fonts other than Helvetica and Times Roman it would work with those characters. Thanks! - Original Message -From: Bob Stayton <b...@sagehill.net>To: stim...@comcast.net, docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.orgSent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:51:04 - (UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 Hi,If by system-wide you mean everyone sharing one DocBook XSL installation, you could edit the parameters file for that installation. Find the file named fo/param.xsl and change these stylesheet parameters: serifsans-serif All of the stylesheet params are documented here: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/fo/index.html Bob StaytonSagehill enterprisesb...@sagehill.net On 2/1/2017 10:22 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote:> I just wanted to add some information from reading build logs for the> document. It turns out the error shows up under "fop" because the> particular font does not support this character (I'm surprised> Times-Roman does not have this by default since just about every> application on the system has the character):> WARNING: Glyph "├" (0x251c, SF08) not available in font "Times-Roman".>> The trouble here is I now want to change this for the system as a whole,> not just on the document (I want to avoid any project using> Times-Roman). I am curious if there is some simple way under Linux to> find out which fonts fop has available, and how to change the default> font family for all Docbook publishing via a system-wide setting? I've> found many documents on modifying Docbook behavior within source code,> but not much seems to exist on system-wide Docbook configuration from a> system administrator's point of view...if anyone has a URL for> information on specifics of tuning Docbook defaults under Linux I'd be> very happy!>> Thanks!>> - Original Message -> From: stim...@comcast.net> To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:20:24 - (UTC)> Subject: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1> Hi,>> I'm working on a Linux machine which has UTF-8 encoding. The docbook 5.1> I'm working with is declared:> > > ]>>> Entities changed a while back (relaxng changed things), but so far as I> know I should still be able to work with numeric entities when using odd> characters which are part of UTF-8. I'm trying to get some box drawing> characters to work, specifically because I need to illustrate a file> directory structure which has been output like this from the "tree -d"> command. Here's a short sample:>> tree -d -L 2 /etc | tail -n 20 | tail -n 6> │ ├── pluginconf.d> │ ├── protected.d> │ └── vars> └── yum.repos.d>> As you can see the vertical and horizontal box drawing characters are> used. When I redirect this to a file or copy and paste into the document> all I get is a substitute...each shows as "#". So I tried to use numeric> entities instead. As an example "boxh" (horizontal box line) should work> as "". This does not work, and rendering still ends up as "#". I> tried the numeric code for the plus/minus character, "||", and> this does work. I don't know if it proves anything, but since my UTF-8> terminal shows all of the above characters just fine on a terminal, it> seems like the ability to output is not in question...perhaps this is an> invalid assumption.>> Btw, one reference on the Unicode numeric value is from:> http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/iso-box.html>> Under Docbook 5.1, what do I need to do to use this numeric entity other> than using UTF-8 and the numeric entity syntax? Is there an additional> XML declaration I need?>> Thanks!
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Hi, If by system-wide you mean everyone sharing one DocBook XSL installation, you could edit the parameters file for that installation. Find the file named fo/param.xsl and change these stylesheet parameters: serif sans-serif All of the stylesheet params are documented here: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/fo/index.html Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net On 2/1/2017 10:22 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote: I just wanted to add some information from reading build logs for the document. It turns out the error shows up under "fop" because the particular font does not support this character (I'm surprised Times-Roman does not have this by default since just about every application on the system has the character): WARNING: Glyph "├" (0x251c, SF08) not available in font "Times-Roman". The trouble here is I now want to change this for the system as a whole, not just on the document (I want to avoid any project using Times-Roman). I am curious if there is some simple way under Linux to find out which fonts fop has available, and how to change the default font family for all Docbook publishing via a system-wide setting? I've found many documents on modifying Docbook behavior within source code, but not much seems to exist on system-wide Docbook configuration from a system administrator's point of view...if anyone has a URL for information on specifics of tuning Docbook defaults under Linux I'd be very happy! Thanks! - Original Message - From: stim...@comcast.net To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:20:24 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 Hi, I'm working on a Linux machine which has UTF-8 encoding. The docbook 5.1 I'm working with is declared: ]> Entities changed a while back (relaxng changed things), but so far as I know I should still be able to work with numeric entities when using odd characters which are part of UTF-8. I'm trying to get some box drawing characters to work, specifically because I need to illustrate a file directory structure which has been output like this from the "tree -d" command. Here's a short sample: tree -d -L 2 /etc | tail -n 20 | tail -n 6 │ ├── pluginconf.d │ ├── protected.d │ └── vars └── yum.repos.d As you can see the vertical and horizontal box drawing characters are used. When I redirect this to a file or copy and paste into the document all I get is a substitute...each shows as "#". So I tried to use numeric entities instead. As an example "boxh" (horizontal box line) should work as "". This does not work, and rendering still ends up as "#". I tried the numeric code for the plus/minus character, "||", and this does work. I don't know if it proves anything, but since my UTF-8 terminal shows all of the above characters just fine on a terminal, it seems like the ability to output is not in question...perhaps this is an invalid assumption. Btw, one reference on the Unicode numeric value is from: http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/iso-box.html Under Docbook 5.1, what do I need to do to use this numeric entity other than using UTF-8 and the numeric entity syntax? Is there an additional XML declaration I need? Thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
I just wanted to add some information from reading build logs for the document. It turns out the error shows up under "fop" because the particular font does not support this character (I'm surprised Times-Roman does not have this by default since just about every application on the system has the character): WARNING: Glyph "├" (0x251c, SF08) not available in font "Times-Roman". The trouble here is I now want to change this for the system as a whole, not just on the document (I want to avoid any project using Times-Roman). I am curious if there is some simple way under Linux to find out which fonts fop has available, and how to change the default font family for all Docbook publishing via a system-wide setting? I've found many documents on modifying Docbook behavior within source code, but not much seems to exist on system-wide Docbook configuration from a system administrator's point of view...if anyone has a URL for information on specifics of tuning Docbook defaults under Linux I'd be very happy! Thanks! - Original Message -From: stimits@comcast.netTo: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.orgSent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:20:24 -0000 (UTC)Subject: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1 Hi, I'm working on a Linux machine which has UTF-8 encoding. The docbook 5.1 I'm working with is declared: ]> Entities changed a while back (relaxng changed things), but so far as I know I should still be able to work with numeric entities when using odd characters which are part of UTF-8. I'm trying to get some box drawing characters to work, specifically because I need to illustrate a file directory structure which has been output like this from the "tree -d" command. Here's a short sample: > tree -d -L 2 /etc | tail -n 20 | tail -n 6│ ├── pluginconf.d│ ├── > protected.d│ └── vars└── yum.repos.d As you can see the vertical and horizontal box drawing characters are used. When I redirect this to a file or copy and paste into the document all I get is a substitute...each shows as "#". So I tried to use numeric entities instead. As an example "boxh" (horizontal box line) should work as "". This does not work, and rendering still ends up as "#". I tried the numeric code for the plus/minus character, "", and this does work. I don't know if it proves anything, but since my UTF-8 terminal shows all of the above characters just fine on a terminal, it seems like the ability to output is not in question...perhaps this is an invalid assumption. Btw, one reference on the Unicode numeric value is from: http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/iso-box.html Under Docbook 5.1, what do I need to do to use this numeric entity other than using UTF-8 and the numeric entity syntax? Is there an additional XML declaration I need? Thanks!
[docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1
Hi, I'm working on a Linux machine which has UTF-8 encoding. The docbook 5.1 I'm working with is declared: ]> Entities changed a while back (relaxng changed things), but so far as I know I should still be able to work with numeric entities when using odd characters which are part of UTF-8. I'm trying to get some box drawing characters to work, specifically because I need to illustrate a file directory structure which has been output like this from the "tree -d" command. Here's a short sample: > tree -d -L 2 /etc | tail -n 20 | tail -n 6│ ├── pluginconf.d│ ├── > protected.d│ └── vars└── yum.repos.d As you can see the vertical and horizontal box drawing characters are used. When I redirect this to a file or copy and paste into the document all I get is a substitute...each shows as "#". So I tried to use numeric entities instead. As an example "boxh" (horizontal box line) should work as "". This does not work, and rendering still ends up as "#". I tried the numeric code for the plus/minus character, "", and this does work. I don't know if it proves anything, but since my UTF-8 terminal shows all of the above characters just fine on a terminal, it seems like the ability to output is not in question...perhaps this is an invalid assumption. Btw, one reference on the Unicode numeric value is from: http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/iso-box.html Under Docbook 5.1, what do I need to do to use this numeric entity other than using UTF-8 and the numeric entity syntax? Is there an additional XML declaration I need? Thanks!
