[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual
Hi Joel, *, (ccing the documention-ml) Am 13.06.2012 20:33, schrieb Joel Madero: Hi All, Where do I upload an updated manual. I made an incredibly small change to address a bug report that someone had: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41600 I've done about a paragraph addition just to address the language issue that the user brought up. Can I send this somewhere? Thanks in advance. For questions about documentation it is better to write to documentation-ml (documentation@global.libreoffice.org). There you will get (hopefully) the right answers and help. Changes in documentation should be first published in ODFAuthors. You should work on the existing document. If it is too difficult to do it for you, give a short signal. It should be easy to integrate your work. Here some links for more information: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Production#Workflow -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco CMIS access
Hi documentation team, David, I'm just keeping you informed that the CMIS support in LibreOffice is pretty well advanced in the future 3.6 and will already be usable as an experimental feature. In order for this to work with the TDF Alfresco repository, you'll need to provide the link to the AtomPub CMIS binding from Alfresco (don't hesitate to contact me if you need infos to find it). Regards, -- Cedric -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
Peter! Glad to hear you had a good holiday. I haven't been in Croatia in 45 (!) years, back when it was part of Yugoslavia. I enjoyed it then and have been looking for an opportunity to go back. Here is the page for downloading the Beta 1 of LO3.6: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ That page also has a link to the nightly builds, if you feel really daring. Glad to know you'll be doing Draw 3.5 as well as 3.6. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean Back from a wonderful holiday in Croatia. Definitely worth visiting again and we are already making tentative plans for next year. Now it is back to work. If you can point me in the right direction to get a reasonably stable version of LO3.6, I can continue with Draw guide LO3.5. Then check LO3.5 guide against LO3.6 after completing each chapter. Make any necessary alterations and we shall be a little ahead when it is a go for publishing LO3.6 guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 14 Jun 2012, at 08:21, Jean Weber wrote: I have now studied the features lists for v3.5 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/) and v3.6 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6). Numerous important changes were made in v3.5 to Writer and Draw as well as Impress. Few new or updated features are listed for Draw and Impress v3.6. Updating the Draw Guide to 3.5 should not be a major job for PeterS, because of the overlap between Draw and Impress. He has already agreed to do it. Producing a v3.6 book for Draw or Impress should require very little further work. Updating the affected chapters of the Writer Guide to v3.5 will be a fair bit of work for whoever does it (JohnS?), but then the update to v3.6 should be relatively minor. Calc appears to have numerous important changes in v3.5 and in v3.6, so perhaps a case can be made for skipping a Calc Guide for v3.5 and going directly to v3.6... assuming anyone is available to work on it, given everything else that needs to be done. IMO, we should have a Getting Started guide for v3.5 and another for v3.6. But again, that assumes someone is available to work on it. I traditionally do that book, other than the chapters extracted from work others do for other books (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc). So, to summarise: I think we should NOT skip the v3.5 books (other than, perhaps, Calc), because of the major changes in v3.5. However, if individual volunteers prefer to go directly to v3.6 for whatever they are working on, I won't argue. BTW, I intend to work on the remaining chapters of Calc v3.4 over the next few days, so we can finish that book as soon as Andrew Pitonyak does his chapters. After that, I intend to work on Getting Started v3.5. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know whether 3.6 is usable enough for us to start documenting it, but it should be. It's in early beta at the moment. I haven't tested it nor even read through the list of updates yet. Skipping 3.5.x guides: I'll look at the features lists for 3.5 and 3.6 and form an opinion today or tomorrow. Skipping a release has both advantages and disadvantages, so the pros and cons need to be weighed up. Sometimes incremental updating works best; sometimes it's not needed. (Others' informed opinions are welcome, of course.) --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go straight to the 3.6.x guides instead? Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 13/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 13 June, 2012, 23:32 This article is a nice summary: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-3-6-0-enters-beta-testing-1616858.html It contains links to relevant LO wiki pages including: * the release plan, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.0_release * the preliminary Release Notes, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6 Note that release is scheduled for late July - early August. We need to finish the v3.4 Calc Guide and all the v3.5 books, as well as work on v3.6. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco CMIS access
Hi Cedric, I have been watching the Open Office project looking at a way of getting involved. I am an Alfresco consultant and would be very interested in this feature. Would be interested in getting involved if you were looking for help, e.g. testing. Regards, Chris Davidson From: Cedric Bosdonnat cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Cc: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012, 8:37 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco CMIS access Hi documentation team, David, I'm just keeping you informed that the CMIS support in LibreOffice is pretty well advanced in the future 3.6 and will already be usable as an experimental feature. In order for this to work with the TDF Alfresco repository, you'll need to provide the link to the AtomPub CMIS binding from Alfresco (don't hesitate to contact me if you need infos to find it). Regards, -- Cedric -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco CMIS access
Hi Christopher, On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 09:36 +0100, CHRISTOPHER DAVIDSON wrote: I have been watching the Open Office project looking at a way of getting involved. I am an Alfresco consultant and would be very interested in this feature. Don't get confused here: this is not a feature for OpenOffice... only LibreOffice has it. Would be interested in getting involved if you were looking for help, e.g. testing. Testing will be useful, but not only for Alfresco :) BTW I'm currently testing against a local Alfresco (I was Alfresco consultant in a previous life) and a local SharePoint 2010. Any other server type at hand is welcomed too. For testing, you'll need to grab the latest 3.6 beta installs or build LibreOffice yourself. Thanks for your testing offer, don't hesitate to ask for more infos. -- Cedric -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Working on Ch14 (Customizing) of the Calc Guide
I am working on Chapter 14 (Customizing) of the Calc Guide. Andrew Pitonyak is doing Chapters 12 13. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
Hi Jean, Just downloaded and installed on my Mac. If they do not change any of the icons before release many of the Calc guide screen shots will need redoing as they have changed many of them and some of the menu items. How to catch up with the guides with the limited number of people is going to be a problem. What time I'll have to help with the Calc guide remains an unknown given the change of government! I was hoping to have already to have started on the LO3.5 Calc guides. May be the same plan as Peter mentioned below might be the best plan Regards Ian Leyton On 14/06/2012, at 6:17 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Peter! Glad to hear you had a good holiday. I haven't been in Croatia in 45 (!) years, back when it was part of Yugoslavia. I enjoyed it then and have been looking for an opportunity to go back. Here is the page for downloading the Beta 1 of LO3.6: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ That page also has a link to the nightly builds, if you feel really daring. Glad to know you'll be doing Draw 3.5 as well as 3.6. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean Back from a wonderful holiday in Croatia. Definitely worth visiting again and we are already making tentative plans for next year. Now it is back to work. If you can point me in the right direction to get a reasonably stable version of LO3.6, I can continue with Draw guide LO3.5. Then check LO3.5 guide against LO3.6 after completing each chapter. Make any necessary alterations and we shall be a little ahead when it is a go for publishing LO3.6 guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 14 Jun 2012, at 08:21, Jean Weber wrote: I have now studied the features lists for v3.5 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/) and v3.6 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6). Numerous important changes were made in v3.5 to Writer and Draw as well as Impress. Few new or updated features are listed for Draw and Impress v3.6. Updating the Draw Guide to 3.5 should not be a major job for PeterS, because of the overlap between Draw and Impress. He has already agreed to do it. Producing a v3.6 book for Draw or Impress should require very little further work. Updating the affected chapters of the Writer Guide to v3.5 will be a fair bit of work for whoever does it (JohnS?), but then the update to v3.6 should be relatively minor. Calc appears to have numerous important changes in v3.5 and in v3.6, so perhaps a case can be made for skipping a Calc Guide for v3.5 and going directly to v3.6... assuming anyone is available to work on it, given everything else that needs to be done. IMO, we should have a Getting Started guide for v3.5 and another for v3.6. But again, that assumes someone is available to work on it. I traditionally do that book, other than the chapters extracted from work others do for other books (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc). So, to summarise: I think we should NOT skip the v3.5 books (other than, perhaps, Calc), because of the major changes in v3.5. However, if individual volunteers prefer to go directly to v3.6 for whatever they are working on, I won't argue. BTW, I intend to work on the remaining chapters of Calc v3.4 over the next few days, so we can finish that book as soon as Andrew Pitonyak does his chapters. After that, I intend to work on Getting Started v3.5. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know whether 3.6 is usable enough for us to start documenting it, but it should be. It's in early beta at the moment. I haven't tested it nor even read through the list of updates yet. Skipping 3.5.x guides: I'll look at the features lists for 3.5 and 3.6 and form an opinion today or tomorrow. Skipping a release has both advantages and disadvantages, so the pros and cons need to be weighed up. Sometimes incremental updating works best; sometimes it's not needed. (Others' informed opinions are welcome, of course.) --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go straight to the 3.6.x guides instead? Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 13/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 13 June, 2012, 23:32 This article is a nice summary: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-3-6-0-enters-beta-testing-1616858.html It contains links to relevant LO wiki pages including: * the release plan, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.0_release * the preliminary Release Notes, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6 Note that
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
Hi :) I think one of the problems with the 3.5.x branch was that so many things didn't work that it was difficult to get screen-shots or accurately update the text of the guides. We don't really know whether there will be more changes to the icon sets at official release. Is anyone on the design teams list to ask there? It might be worth asking the devs list too as they might have some idea of plans. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Ian Leyton leyto...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ian Leyton leyto...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 10:52 Hi Jean, Just downloaded and installed on my Mac. If they do not change any of the icons before release many of the Calc guide screen shots will need redoing as they have changed many of them and some of the menu items. How to catch up with the guides with the limited number of people is going to be a problem. What time I'll have to help with the Calc guide remains an unknown given the change of government! I was hoping to have already to have started on the LO3.5 Calc guides. May be the same plan as Peter mentioned below might be the best plan Regards Ian Leyton On 14/06/2012, at 6:17 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Peter! Glad to hear you had a good holiday. I haven't been in Croatia in 45 (!) years, back when it was part of Yugoslavia. I enjoyed it then and have been looking for an opportunity to go back. Here is the page for downloading the Beta 1 of LO3.6: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ That page also has a link to the nightly builds, if you feel really daring. Glad to know you'll be doing Draw 3.5 as well as 3.6. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean Back from a wonderful holiday in Croatia. Definitely worth visiting again and we are already making tentative plans for next year. Now it is back to work. If you can point me in the right direction to get a reasonably stable version of LO3.6, I can continue with Draw guide LO3.5. Then check LO3.5 guide against LO3.6 after completing each chapter. Make any necessary alterations and we shall be a little ahead when it is a go for publishing LO3.6 guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 14 Jun 2012, at 08:21, Jean Weber wrote: I have now studied the features lists for v3.5 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/) and v3.6 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6). Numerous important changes were made in v3.5 to Writer and Draw as well as Impress. Few new or updated features are listed for Draw and Impress v3.6. Updating the Draw Guide to 3.5 should not be a major job for PeterS, because of the overlap between Draw and Impress. He has already agreed to do it. Producing a v3.6 book for Draw or Impress should require very little further work. Updating the affected chapters of the Writer Guide to v3.5 will be a fair bit of work for whoever does it (JohnS?), but then the update to v3.6 should be relatively minor. Calc appears to have numerous important changes in v3.5 and in v3.6, so perhaps a case can be made for skipping a Calc Guide for v3.5 and going directly to v3.6... assuming anyone is available to work on it, given everything else that needs to be done. IMO, we should have a Getting Started guide for v3.5 and another for v3.6. But again, that assumes someone is available to work on it. I traditionally do that book, other than the chapters extracted from work others do for other books (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc). So, to summarise: I think we should NOT skip the v3.5 books (other than, perhaps, Calc), because of the major changes in v3.5. However, if individual volunteers prefer to go directly to v3.6 for whatever they are working on, I won't argue. BTW, I intend to work on the remaining chapters of Calc v3.4 over the next few days, so we can finish that book as soon as Andrew Pitonyak does his chapters. After that, I intend to work on Getting Started v3.5. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know whether 3.6 is usable enough for us to start documenting it, but it should be. It's in early beta at the moment. I haven't tested it nor even read through the list of updates yet. Skipping 3.5.x guides: I'll look at the features lists for 3.5 and 3.6 and form an opinion today or tomorrow. Skipping a release has both advantages and disadvantages, so the pros and cons need to be weighed up. Sometimes incremental updating works best; sometimes it's not needed. (Others' informed opinions are welcome, of course.) --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
Ian, Be sure you are using the Galaxy icon set in LibreOffice (LODev Preferences LOdev View Icon size and style). When I installed LO3.6 beta on my Mac, it came up with the Automatic (Tango) icon set. Many Tango icons look different, but a quick flip through some Calc screens suggests that the Galaxy icon set is mostly unchanged... or the changes are minor enough that new screenshots are not required for that reason alone (and may look somewhat different on other platforms anyway). --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Ian Leyton leyto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean, Just downloaded and installed on my Mac. If they do not change any of the icons before release many of the Calc guide screen shots will need redoing as they have changed many of them and some of the menu items. How to catch up with the guides with the limited number of people is going to be a problem. What time I'll have to help with the Calc guide remains an unknown given the change of government! I was hoping to have already to have started on the LO3.5 Calc guides. May be the same plan as Peter mentioned below might be the best plan Regards Ian Leyton On 14/06/2012, at 6:17 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Peter! Glad to hear you had a good holiday. I haven't been in Croatia in 45 (!) years, back when it was part of Yugoslavia. I enjoyed it then and have been looking for an opportunity to go back. Here is the page for downloading the Beta 1 of LO3.6: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ That page also has a link to the nightly builds, if you feel really daring. Glad to know you'll be doing Draw 3.5 as well as 3.6. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean Back from a wonderful holiday in Croatia. Definitely worth visiting again and we are already making tentative plans for next year. Now it is back to work. If you can point me in the right direction to get a reasonably stable version of LO3.6, I can continue with Draw guide LO3.5. Then check LO3.5 guide against LO3.6 after completing each chapter. Make any necessary alterations and we shall be a little ahead when it is a go for publishing LO3.6 guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 14 Jun 2012, at 08:21, Jean Weber wrote: I have now studied the features lists for v3.5 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/) and v3.6 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6). Numerous important changes were made in v3.5 to Writer and Draw as well as Impress. Few new or updated features are listed for Draw and Impress v3.6. Updating the Draw Guide to 3.5 should not be a major job for PeterS, because of the overlap between Draw and Impress. He has already agreed to do it. Producing a v3.6 book for Draw or Impress should require very little further work. Updating the affected chapters of the Writer Guide to v3.5 will be a fair bit of work for whoever does it (JohnS?), but then the update to v3.6 should be relatively minor. Calc appears to have numerous important changes in v3.5 and in v3.6, so perhaps a case can be made for skipping a Calc Guide for v3.5 and going directly to v3.6... assuming anyone is available to work on it, given everything else that needs to be done. IMO, we should have a Getting Started guide for v3.5 and another for v3.6. But again, that assumes someone is available to work on it. I traditionally do that book, other than the chapters extracted from work others do for other books (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc). So, to summarise: I think we should NOT skip the v3.5 books (other than, perhaps, Calc), because of the major changes in v3.5. However, if individual volunteers prefer to go directly to v3.6 for whatever they are working on, I won't argue. BTW, I intend to work on the remaining chapters of Calc v3.4 over the next few days, so we can finish that book as soon as Andrew Pitonyak does his chapters. After that, I intend to work on Getting Started v3.5. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know whether 3.6 is usable enough for us to start documenting it, but it should be. It's in early beta at the moment. I haven't tested it nor even read through the list of updates yet. Skipping 3.5.x guides: I'll look at the features lists for 3.5 and 3.6 and form an opinion today or tomorrow. Skipping a release has both advantages and disadvantages, so the pros and cons need to be weighed up. Sometimes incremental updating works best; sometimes it's not needed. (Others' informed opinions are welcome, of course.) --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go straight to the 3.6.x guides instead? Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 13/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
OK Tom, you've given your opinion. Let those of us actually doing the work decide what we prefer to do. Cheers, Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think it would be more impressive if people mostly skipped the 3.5.x and went straight on to the 3.6.x as happened with the Impress Guide this time. Maybe by the time the 3.6.x guides are done the need for 3.5.x guides would be over anyway. There are not many releases left before 3.5.x reaches end-of-life. Yes, there might have been big changes but if no-one is using the 3.5.x by the time the guides are done then there will have been no point in doing the guides. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 7:21 I have now studied the features lists for v3.5 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/) and v3.6 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6). Numerous important changes were made in v3.5 to Writer and Draw as well as Impress. Few new or updated features are listed for Draw and Impress v3.6. Updating the Draw Guide to 3.5 should not be a major job for PeterS, because of the overlap between Draw and Impress. He has already agreed to do it. Producing a v3.6 book for Draw or Impress should require very little further work. Updating the affected chapters of the Writer Guide to v3.5 will be a fair bit of work for whoever does it (JohnS?), but then the update to v3.6 should be relatively minor. Calc appears to have numerous important changes in v3.5 and in v3.6, so perhaps a case can be made for skipping a Calc Guide for v3.5 and going directly to v3.6... assuming anyone is available to work on it, given everything else that needs to be done. IMO, we should have a Getting Started guide for v3.5 and another for v3.6. But again, that assumes someone is available to work on it. I traditionally do that book, other than the chapters extracted from work others do for other books (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc). So, to summarise: I think we should NOT skip the v3.5 books (other than, perhaps, Calc), because of the major changes in v3.5. However, if individual volunteers prefer to go directly to v3.6 for whatever they are working on, I won't argue. BTW, I intend to work on the remaining chapters of Calc v3.4 over the next few days, so we can finish that book as soon as Andrew Pitonyak does his chapters. After that, I intend to work on Getting Started v3.5. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know whether 3.6 is usable enough for us to start documenting it, but it should be. It's in early beta at the moment. I haven't tested it nor even read through the list of updates yet. Skipping 3.5.x guides: I'll look at the features lists for 3.5 and 3.6 and form an opinion today or tomorrow. Skipping a release has both advantages and disadvantages, so the pros and cons need to be weighed up. Sometimes incremental updating works best; sometimes it's not needed. (Others' informed opinions are welcome, of course.) --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go straight to the 3.6.x guides instead? Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 13/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 13 June, 2012, 23:32 This article is a nice summary: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-3-6-0-enters-beta-testing-1616858.html It contains links to relevant LO wiki pages including: * the release plan, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.0_release * the preliminary Release Notes, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6 Note that release is scheduled for late July - early August. We need to finish the v3.4 Calc Guide and all the v3.5 books, as well as work on v3.6. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual
Hi :) I think, in this case, that it might be better to just upload straight to the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications ODFAuthors is for proof-reading and all the rest of the process. This case sounds like it is probably ready to go straight to the wiki. Please let us know which chapter and when you have done it as the change might need to get pulled into the completed full book as well as the chapter you have edited. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: Libreoffice-qa libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org, jmadero@gmail.com Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 7:01 Hi Joel, *, (ccing the documention-ml) Am 13.06.2012 20:33, schrieb Joel Madero: Hi All, Where do I upload an updated manual. I made an incredibly small change to address a bug report that someone had: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41600 I've done about a paragraph addition just to address the language issue that the user brought up. Can I send this somewhere? Thanks in advance. For questions about documentation it is better to write to documentation-ml (documentation@global.libreoffice.org). There you will get (hopefully) the right answers and help. Changes in documentation should be first published in ODFAuthors. You should work on the existing document. If it is too difficult to do it for you, give a short signal. It should be easy to integrate your work. Here some links for more information: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Production#Workflow -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 11:41 OK Tom, you've given your opinion. Let those of us actually doing the work decide what we prefer to do. Cheers, Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think it would be more impressive if people mostly skipped the 3.5.x and went straight on to the 3.6.x as happened with the Impress Guide this time. Maybe by the time the 3.6.x guides are done the need for 3.5.x guides would be over anyway. There are not many releases left before 3.5.x reaches end-of-life. Yes, there might have been big changes but if no-one is using the 3.5.x by the time the guides are done then there will have been no point in doing the guides. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 7:21 I have now studied the features lists for v3.5 (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/) and v3.6 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6). Numerous important changes were made in v3.5 to Writer and Draw as well as Impress. Few new or updated features are listed for Draw and Impress v3.6. Updating the Draw Guide to 3.5 should not be a major job for PeterS, because of the overlap between Draw and Impress. He has already agreed to do it. Producing a v3.6 book for Draw or Impress should require very little further work. Updating the affected chapters of the Writer Guide to v3.5 will be a fair bit of work for whoever does it (JohnS?), but then the update to v3.6 should be relatively minor. Calc appears to have numerous important changes in v3.5 and in v3.6, so perhaps a case can be made for skipping a Calc Guide for v3.5 and going directly to v3.6... assuming anyone is available to work on it, given everything else that needs to be done. IMO, we should have a Getting Started guide for v3.5 and another for v3.6. But again, that assumes someone is available to work on it. I traditionally do that book, other than the chapters extracted from work others do for other books (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc). So, to summarise: I think we should NOT skip the v3.5 books (other than, perhaps, Calc), because of the major changes in v3.5. However, if individual volunteers prefer to go directly to v3.6 for whatever they are working on, I won't argue. BTW, I intend to work on the remaining chapters of Calc v3.4 over the next few days, so we can finish that book as soon as Andrew Pitonyak does his chapters. After that, I intend to work on Getting Started v3.5. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know whether 3.6 is usable enough for us to start documenting it, but it should be. It's in early beta at the moment. I haven't tested it nor even read through the list of updates yet. Skipping 3.5.x guides: I'll look at the features lists for 3.5 and 3.6 and form an opinion today or tomorrow. Skipping a release has both advantages and disadvantages, so the pros and cons need to be weighed up. Sometimes incremental updating works best; sometimes it's not needed. (Others' informed opinions are welcome, of course.) --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go straight to the 3.6.x guides instead? Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 13/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly! To: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 13 June, 2012, 23:32 This article is a nice summary: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-3-6-0-enters-beta-testing-1616858.html It contains links to relevant LO wiki pages including: * the release plan, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.0_release * the preliminary Release Notes, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6 Note that release is scheduled for late July - early August. We need to finish the v3.4 Calc Guide and all the v3.5 books, as well as work on v3.6. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3.6 is approaching quickly!
On 6/14/2012 2:23 AM, Jean Weber wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Gary Schnablgschn...@swdetroit.com wrote: On 6/14/2012 12:19 AM, Gary Schnabl wrote: On 6/13/2012 8:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Is the 3.6.x usable enough to completely skip all the remaining 3.5.x guides and go straight to the 3.6.x guides instead? Regards from Tom :) My dos centavos... Due to the very small number of writers available, LO should always rewrite its current material at the beta version level, at least. Better yet, write for the pre-release alpha stage and update the chapters accordingly, as needed. Otherwise, when the LO docs project attempts to complete an incremental edition, it will likely keep remaining an incremental version or three behind--and possibly contain deprecated or even worse, obsolete, material in addition to being untimely. Gary I forgot to add... The writings should be done much like the technical editing and rewriting we performed for Motorla/Freescale Semiconductor: using conditional text for the various material that differs. After a reasonable amount of time, the obsolete or deprecated material can be permanently deleted. Gary Gary, you know perfectly well that very few volunteers are able to cope with conditional text or any of the other professional methods of maintaining documentation. Otherwise, I would agree. As for working with beta software, this is also a problem for many volunteers. We've seen that over and over again at OOo and here. However, I'm far more willing to tackle that problem. Of course, some of our regular contributors have no problem with using upcoming releases, so that's not a showstopper. See my other note about my conclusions from studying the features lists for v3.5 and v3.6. --Jean For those who might be unaware of the use of conditional text... Using conditional text is not as complicated as you are making it seem. Reviewers or re(writers) could work as before with their writings or reviews. Afterward, a maintenance editor (a type of technical editor who updates docs) could then incorporate the conditional text into a master chapter document, as needed. As a result, any desired incremental version could be generated, utilizing the appropriate conditional field for the particular version. And the final port of a particular version's chapter is (typically) cleared of its conditional text for the master document used for book building, assuming that a book or PDF is the desired output. All of that could be made transparent to those writers, editors, or reviewers with less experience. There were times in the past (mostly for version 2.x, when there were a bit more volunteers at times than currently) when OO had maintenance editors assigned to chapters, thus aiding in updating those chapters of the Writer Guide. Of course, the problem in that regard is a current lack of maintenance editors--something that could be corrected with an aggressive recruitment of volunteers (no easy task). Another benefit would be keeping the modularity involved when a guide is broken up into chapters along with their attendant maintaining editors--much like it was a few years ago. One problem was LO/OO reinventing the wheel over and over again when redoing a complete incremental edition with mostly unaltered material, thus resulting in some delays in getting out a complete increment guide for whatever component being developed. But the real delay at LO is not getting an appropriate leg-up with new material while not starting the updating until way past the time the incremental version is already in its general, stable release. Gary -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual
Hi :) +1 Sorry. Now i have thought about it that final sentence of mine flags up a potential minefield. Klaus-jürgen and Jean's answer is wise. Apols and regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 12:00 I disagree. The changed document should be checked by someone on the team (for example, me) before replacing anything on the wiki. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think, in this case, that it might be better to just upload straight to the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications ODFAuthors is for proof-reading and all the rest of the process. This case sounds like it is probably ready to go straight to the wiki. Please let us know which chapter and when you have done it as the change might need to get pulled into the completed full book as well as the chapter you have edited. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: Libreoffice-qa libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org, jmadero@gmail.com Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 7:01 Hi Joel, *, (ccing the documention-ml) Am 13.06.2012 20:33, schrieb Joel Madero: Hi All, Where do I upload an updated manual. I made an incredibly small change to address a bug report that someone had: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41600 I've done about a paragraph addition just to address the language issue that the user brought up. Can I send this somewhere? Thanks in advance. For questions about documentation it is better to write to documentation-ml (documentation@global.libreoffice.org). There you will get (hopefully) the right answers and help. Changes in documentation should be first published in ODFAuthors. You should work on the existing document. If it is too difficult to do it for you, give a short signal. It should be easy to integrate your work. Here some links for more information: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Production#Workflow -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Contribution (Alfresco)
Hi, While looking for some documentation on Alfresco, I came across this wikipage - http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Help_Wanted#LibreOffice_Alfresco_Implementation (The last on at the bottom of the page) The page says: LibreOffice Alfresco Implementation The LibreOffice project uses Alfresco to manage technical documentation. They are looking for help customizing their Alfresco implementation (folder structure, permissions, minor Share user interface tweaks, workflow, etc.). Primary contact: David Nelson Which says that the LibreOffice project is looking for people with Alfresco knowledge to help them with their Alfresco implementation. While I may not be a pro, but I would love to contribute in any way I can. I have worked on other open source projects and have made contributions here and there and have extensive experience in Document management and ECM. So, are you guys still looking for help with Alfresco? Can I help? if Yes, How do I get started? Best Regards, Sanket -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual
Is this in the full book or a chapter file or both? Please tell me the exact file names. One reason I like to check files before uploading is to change info on copyright page if needed. Also sometimes changes to files cause page break changes that I want to correct or they've used an incorrect style or something. Fiddly stuff not directly related to the content. Probably all is fine with what you've done, but I would like to check. If you don't have an ODFAuthors account, go ahead and upload to wiki. Just be sure to tell me the file name(s). Thanks! Jean On 15/06/2012, at 1:27, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm slightly confused, am I uploading to wiki or following Jean's advice and letting someone proof it before? It's honestly a really simple addition. It's more to address the user who submitted the request and knock one of the 5,000+ bugs off the list :) I can even post it here: *This is pertaining to bug reported here*: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41600 *The original text is located in:* Install the required dictionaries *It reads:* LibreOffice automatically installs several dictionaries with the program. To add other dictionaries, be sure you are connected to the Internet, and then use Tools Language More Dictionaries Online. LibreOffice will open your default web browser to a page containing links to additional dictionaries that you can install. Follow the prompts to select and install the ones you want. *I changed/added to the following:* LibreOffice automatically installs several dictionaries with the program. To add other dictionaries, be sure you are connected to the Internet, and then use Tools Language More Dictionaries Online. LibreOffice will open your default web browser to a page containing links to additional dictionaries that you can install. When you download the dictionary or dictionaries that you want, they will be in the open office extension format (.oxt). In order to install these extensions use Tools Extension Manager...click on Add...located at the bottom of the extension manager dialog. Navigate to the appropriate folder containing your dictionary in .oxt format, select the oxt dictionary and click Open. Many thanks, Joel On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) +1 Sorry. Now i have thought about it that final sentence of mine flags up a potential minefield. Klaus-jürgen and Jean's answer is wise. Apols and regards from Tom :) --- On *Thu, 14/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 12:00 I disagree. The changed document should be checked by someone on the team (for example, me) before replacing anything on the wiki. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukhttp://mc/compose?to=tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think, in this case, that it might be better to just upload straight to the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications ODFAuthors is for proof-reading and all the rest of the process. This case sounds like it is probably ready to go straight to the wiki. Please let us know which chapter and when you have done it as the change might need to get pulled into the completed full book as well as the chapter you have edited. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.dehttp://mc/compose?to=o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.dehttp://mc/compose?to=o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: Libreoffice-qa libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.orghttp://mc/compose?to=libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.orghttp://mc/compose?to=documentation@global.libreoffice.org, jmadero@gmail.com http://mc/compose?to=jmadero@gmail.com Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 7:01 Hi Joel, *, (ccing the documention-ml) Am 13.06.2012 20:33, schrieb Joel Madero: Hi All, Where do I upload an updated manual. I made an incredibly small change to address a bug report that someone had: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41600 I've done about a paragraph addition just to address the language issue that the user brought up. Can I send this somewhere? Thanks in advance. For questions about documentation it is better to write to documentation-ml (documentation@global.libreoffice.orghttp://mc/compose?to=documentation@global.libreoffice.org). There you will get (hopefully) the right answers and help. Changes in documentation should be first published in ODFAuthors. You should work on the existing document.
