[libreoffice-documentation] Re: LibreOffice Getting Started Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
I have reviewed Chapter 8 of getting started guide (Getting started with
base) and have uploaded it to the feedback folder. The chapter is showing
screenshots of Firebird database while captions are saying HSQLDB. The Base
Guide 6.2, which is currently under development, features HSQLDB for most
part. It just tells that there is also a firebird engine available and the
Appendix B tell different function of HSQLDB and Firebird and difference
between them. So I think this chapter should also be based on HSQLDB
database. I have left some questions in the comments. I have updated the
spreadsheet.

Pulkit Krishna

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: LibreOffice Base Documentation

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Jean,
I have deleted the first 2 paragraphs on which you commented in chapter 5
of Base Guide. But for your third comment on the note, the not is still
true. I have uploaded the file back to the draft folder and have updated
the spreadsheet.

Pulkit Krishna

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 8:59 AM Jean Weber [via Document Foundation Mail
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> I have reviewed Chapter 5, updated styles, and returned it to the
> Feedback folder. I left three questions in marginal comments.
> I have now taken Chapter 6 for first review.
> Jean
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> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jean Weber <[hidden email]
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> >
> > I've taken Chapter 5 for review.
> > Jean
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> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:07 PM Pulkit Krishna <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Dan and Jean,
> > > To Dan:
> > > Are you done with the review of chapter 4. How much time will you
> take?
> > > Kindly add the expected return date to the spreadsheet.
> > > To Jean:
> > > You can take chapter 5 for its first review.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Documentation

[Jean Weber]

I have reviewed Chapter 5, updated styles, and returned it to the
Feedback folder. I left three questions in marginal comments.
I have now taken Chapter 6 for first review.
Jean

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 5:26 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
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> I've taken Chapter 5 for review.
> Jean
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:07 PM Pulkit Krishna  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Dan and Jean,
> > To Dan:
> > Are you done with the review of chapter 4. How much time will you take?
> > Kindly add the expected return date to the spreadsheet.
> > To Jean:
> > You can take chapter 5 for its first review.
> >
> >
> > Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO 6.4

[Stephen Fanning]

I have completed a first review of Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) and
placed the updated document in the Feedback folder.

I am concerned about the section entitled "Shortcut keys for drawing
objects" (which only occupies one page). It is not an area that I am very
familiar with and was I unable to find / verify operation for  many of the
shortcuts mentioned. This might be due to my unfamiliarity (most likely) or
could be due to inaccuracies in the section (less likely but not
impossible). Please could somebody who is familiar with this material give
the page a quick review?

Regards,

Steve Fanning

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 19:41, Stephen Fanning 
wrote:

> I have taken Chapter 15 (Keyboard Shortcuts) for first review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 20:00, Stephen Fanning 
> wrote:
>
>> I have completed the first review of  Chapter 9 (Getting Started with
>> Math) and returned the updated file to the Feedback folder.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 20:24, Stephen Fanning 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have completed the first review of Chapter 12 (Creating HTML files)
>>> and returned the updated file to the Feedback folder.
>>>
>>> I have taken Chapter 9 (Getting Started with Math) for first review.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 16:05, Stephen Fanning <
>>> stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I have taken Chapter 12 (Creating HTML files) for first review.

 Regards,

 Steve


 On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 19:17, Stephen Fanning <
 stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have returned Chapter 14 (Customizing LO) to the Feedback folder.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 13:11, Stephen Fanning <
> stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have returned Chapter 16 (Appendix B - Open Source) to the Feedback
>> folder.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 14:16, Stephen Fanning <
>> stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have returned Chapter 5 to the Feedback folder.
>>>
>>> I have taken Chapters 14 (Customizing LO) and 16 (Open Source) for
>>> first review.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 17:20, Stephen Fanning <
>>> stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I have returned Chapter 4 to the Feedback folder.

 I have taken Chapter 5 (Calc) for first review.

 Regards,

 Steve


 On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 20:21, Stephen Fanning <
 stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I have finished my review of Chapter 10 (Printing etc) and
> returned the updated version to the Feedback folder. In the absence 
> of any
> advice to the contrary, I have included more information on printing 
> in
> Math.
>
> I have taken Chapter 4 (Writer) for first review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 19:50, Stephen Fanning <
> stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have returned Chapter 3 to the Feedback folder. I hope that my
>> tracked edits are correct and helpful. There are also a small number 
>> of
>> queries in the form of embedded comments.
>>
>> I have taken Chapter 10 for first review.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 10:52, Stephen Fanning <
>> stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your kind words Jean.
>>>
>>> I have taken Chapter 3 for first review.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 05:23, Jean Weber 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Steve,
 Thank you for your review. It's a delight to work with someone
 who is
 so thorough in catching my "oops, I forgot to replace that
 image" as
 well as topics overlooked.
 I agree with all your points and am making necessary changes. I
 need
 to look up a few things.
 Jean

 On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:44 AM Jean Weber 
 wrote:
 >
 > Steve,
 > Thank you. I’ll should have time to go through it today.
 > Jean
 >
 > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 06:39 Stephen Fanning <
 stevemfanning...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >>
 >> I have completed a first review of chapter 2 and returned
 the file to the
 >> Feedback folder, including tracked changes and embedded
 comments. I have
 >> checked it against 6.4 builds 

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of the Escape key

[Stephen Fanning]

Thanks to Cor and Dave. I've removed the relevant line from the draft
chapter.

Regards,

Steve

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 13:05, Dave Barton  wrote:

> On 08/03/2020 12:38, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > Stephen Fanning wrote on 08/03/2020 00:33:
> >> I am reviewing Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) of the Getting Started
> Guide
> >> v6.4 and have a question which somebody may be able to answer for me.
> >>
> >> In a section entitled “Getting help”, the following description is
> given of
> >> the Escape key’s function in the context of help information: “In
> >> LibreOffice Help: goes up one level. For Help online, the key is
> handled by
> >> the browser”.
> >
> > The old local installed 'built-in' Help, opens separate dialogs.
> > Usually, ESC closes a dialog, triggering Cancel. For the built-in Help,
> > that is not relevant. So ESC does not close the dialog. Neither does it
> > go up one level (assuming that is meant back to a previous visited page,
> > or up to chapter level from paragraph).
> >
> >> Is the first part of this text a throwback to an old method of providing
> >> help? If so, is it correct to say that this key is now handled by the
> >> browser irrespective of whether the help is local or online?
> >
> > Unless someone else comes up with a description that makes sense and
> > adds something to the user experience (I can't remember using ESC in the
> > browser), I would suggest to leave that part out.
> >
> > Cor
>
> I would agree with Cor. The "Help" facility, both on-line and local is a
> set of HTML files viewed in a web browser and the web browser's
> navigation controls are used.
> So +1 to drop the "Esc" key from the "Getting Help" shortcut keys.
>
> Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of the Escape key

[Dave Barton]

On 08/03/2020 12:38, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> Stephen Fanning wrote on 08/03/2020 00:33:
>> I am reviewing Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) of the Getting Started Guide
>> v6.4 and have a question which somebody may be able to answer for me.
>>
>> In a section entitled “Getting help”, the following description is given of
>> the Escape key’s function in the context of help information: “In
>> LibreOffice Help: goes up one level. For Help online, the key is handled by
>> the browser”.
> 
> The old local installed 'built-in' Help, opens separate dialogs.
> Usually, ESC closes a dialog, triggering Cancel. For the built-in Help,
> that is not relevant. So ESC does not close the dialog. Neither does it
> go up one level (assuming that is meant back to a previous visited page,
> or up to chapter level from paragraph).
> 
>> Is the first part of this text a throwback to an old method of providing
>> help? If so, is it correct to say that this key is now handled by the
>> browser irrespective of whether the help is local or online?
> 
> Unless someone else comes up with a description that makes sense and
> adds something to the user experience (I can't remember using ESC in the
> browser), I would suggest to leave that part out.
> 
> Cor

I would agree with Cor. The "Help" facility, both on-line and local is a
set of HTML files viewed in a web browser and the web browser's
navigation controls are used.
So +1 to drop the "Esc" key from the "Getting Help" shortcut keys.

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of the Escape key

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Stephen,

Stephen Fanning wrote on 08/03/2020 00:33:
> I am reviewing Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) of the Getting Started Guide
> v6.4 and have a question which somebody may be able to answer for me.
> 
> In a section entitled “Getting help”, the following description is given of
> the Escape key’s function in the context of help information: “In
> LibreOffice Help: goes up one level. For Help online, the key is handled by
> the browser”.

The old local installed 'built-in' Help, opens separate dialogs.
Usually, ESC closes a dialog, triggering Cancel. For the built-in Help,
that is not relevant. So ESC does not close the dialog. Neither does it
go up one level (assuming that is meant back to a previous visited page,
or up to chapter level from paragraph).

> Is the first part of this text a throwback to an old method of providing
> help? If so, is it correct to say that this key is now handled by the
> browser irrespective of whether the help is local or online?

Unless someone else comes up with a description that makes sense and
adds something to the user experience (I can't remember using ESC in the
browser), I would suggest to leave that part out.

Cor


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[libreoffice-documentation] I have taken chapter 9 of the Getting Started Guide fir a second review

[kees538]

I have taken chapter 9 of the Getting Started Guide for a second review

Regards, Kees

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