Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help
Marcia, To help orient yourself with the various user guides, you might find this wiki page useful. It lists all the books and their individual chapters. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/submit/Documentation/Publications Jean On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:20 PM marcia wilbur wrote: > > Thanks Peter and Dave. I see the inline comments. > I will take another look over the contrib guide too. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Schofield" > To: "marcia wilbur" > Cc: "Dave Barton" , "LibreOffice" > > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:58:05 AM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Hello Marcia > > Just to let you know that I shall be updating Chapter 6 Getting Started with > Impress and Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw for the Getting Started Guide > 7.0. I am also updating the Impress and Draw User Guides to Version 7.0. > Information from these two user guides will be used for the chapters in the > Getting Started Guide. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > > > > > On 24 Oct 2020, at 04:52, marcia wilbur wrote: > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > I had Jean's document. > > What I need to know is whether the User Guide for each product is separate > > from this or not? > > Do you reuse the Getting Started guide as the user guide for each product. > > > > In that case, I would just take a pass at the Get Started Guide section for > > Writer. > > > > If you have a separate, more "Comprehensive" user guide... then, I would do > > a diff... also. > > > > Let me know. > > Thanks > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dave Barton" > > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > > Cc: "marcia wilbur" > > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 12:42:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > > > Hi Marcia, > > > > WIP (Work I Progress) is one of the folders in our NextCloud workspace. > > If you have been given access to NextCloud, you can find Jean's WIP > > files in this folder: > > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ocb9ASst8PAPkSC > > > > If you do not have NextCloud access yet, please post a request to this list. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Best Regards > > Dave > > > > > > On 22/10/2020 23:46, marcia wilbur wrote: > >> Hi. I was able to access Jean's GSG Writer version but could not find docs > >> in WIP folder for 7.0 Writer? > >> Is this due to checkout? or where can I access the Writer Guide WIP to > >> review. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "marcia wilbur" > >> To: "Jean Weber" > >> Cc: "LibreOffice Documentation" > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:51:10 PM > >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > >> > >> Yes. It does.:) I can take a pass at review. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Jean Weber" > >> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:06:31 PM > >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > >> > >> Several chapters have been updated and need review. Several other chapters > >> need to be updated and then reviewed. If you can help, please do. Thank > >> you! > >> > >> Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributors' Guide
Hi Peter, The fact is that the Contributors Guide has not been properly updated from Jean's excellent original since we moved from ODF Authors to NextCloud. There has been some "piecemeal" editing over the last couple of years, which is why I now want to work with you and any of our other long term contributors to produce an updated and accurate guide that will be meaningful and useful for our new contributors. I found the same confusing "Organized by a Committee" structure for Chapter 3 that you have found with Chapter 2. In my current update of Chapter 3 I simply edited what we already had, just to "get the job done", but I will be returning to totally rewrite/restructure Chapter 3 ASAP. I agree that the Contributor Guide should be formatted in the same way as the user guides, even if some of the introductory content is not really appropriate for an internal document like this. For consistency we should apply the Version 7.x template to the Contributors Guide, but the content of this guide has no relevance to version 7.0 of the software. I propose that with the help of any other long term contributors, to fully update and finalize *ALL* chapters of the Documentation Contributors Guide Best Regards Dave Original Message From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:45 UTC To: Dave Barton Cc: LibreOffice Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributors' Guide > Hello Dave > > I have being going through Chapter 2 of the Contributors’ Guide and it > definitely needs updating despite only being reviewed earlier this year. > The info is out of date when compared to LibreOffice 7.0. > This chapter has not been transferred to the latest template for user guides. > The contributors’ guide should also use the same template as the user guides > for consistency. > The way the chapter has been written provides a very confusing message. Any > instructions or advice are not very clear or logical. > What are thoughts on these problems? I am updating this chapter and making a > lot of changes to look similar to user guide. > > I think the other chapters need a good once over so that we have a good > contributors’ guide. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] GS7005 - GettingStartedWithCalc
Hello Jean, Just uploaded the first draft of the GS7005 in the Work in Progress folder with just a few minor suggestions and the template updating. The Guide Status is updated. Best regards, Felipe Viggiano -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help
Thanks Peter and Dave. I see the inline comments. I will take another look over the contrib guide too. - Original Message - From: "Peter Schofield" To: "marcia wilbur" Cc: "Dave Barton" , "LibreOffice" Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:58:05 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help Hello Marcia Just to let you know that I shall be updating Chapter 6 Getting Started with Impress and Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw for the Getting Started Guide 7.0. I am also updating the Impress and Draw User Guides to Version 7.0. Information from these two user guides will be used for the chapters in the Getting Started Guide. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com > On 24 Oct 2020, at 04:52, marcia wilbur wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > I had Jean's document. > What I need to know is whether the User Guide for each product is separate > from this or not? > Do you reuse the Getting Started guide as the user guide for each product. > > In that case, I would just take a pass at the Get Started Guide section for > Writer. > > If you have a separate, more "Comprehensive" user guide... then, I would do a > diff... also. > > Let me know. > Thanks > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Barton" > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: "marcia wilbur" > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 12:42:18 AM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Hi Marcia, > > WIP (Work I Progress) is one of the folders in our NextCloud workspace. > If you have been given access to NextCloud, you can find Jean's WIP > files in this folder: > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ocb9ASst8PAPkSC > > If you do not have NextCloud access yet, please post a request to this list. > > Hope this helps. > > Best Regards > Dave > > > On 22/10/2020 23:46, marcia wilbur wrote: >> Hi. I was able to access Jean's GSG Writer version but could not find docs >> in WIP folder for 7.0 Writer? >> Is this due to checkout? or where can I access the Writer Guide WIP to >> review. >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "marcia wilbur" >> To: "Jean Weber" >> Cc: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:51:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Yes. It does.:) I can take a pass at review. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jean Weber" >> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:06:31 PM >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Several chapters have been updated and need review. Several other chapters >> need to be updated and the reviewed. If you can help, please do. Thank you! >> >> Jean >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Contributors' Guide
Hello Dave I have being going through Chapter 2 of the Contributors’ Guide and it definitely needs updating despite only being reviewed earlier this year. The info is out of date when compared to LibreOffice 7.0. This chapter has not been transferred to the latest template for user guides. The contributors’ guide should also use the same template as the user guides for consistency. The way the chapter has been written provides a very confusing message. Any instructions or advice are not very clear or logical. What are thoughts on these problems? I am updating this chapter and making a lot of changes to look similar to user guide. I think the other chapters need a good once over so that we have a good contributors’ guide. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help
Hello Marcia Just to let you know that I shall be updating Chapter 6 Getting Started with Impress and Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw for the Getting Started Guide 7.0. I am also updating the Impress and Draw User Guides to Version 7.0. Information from these two user guides will be used for the chapters in the Getting Started Guide. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com > On 24 Oct 2020, at 04:52, marcia wilbur wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > I had Jean's document. > What I need to know is whether the User Guide for each product is separate > from this or not? > Do you reuse the Getting Started guide as the user guide for each product. > > In that case, I would just take a pass at the Get Started Guide section for > Writer. > > If you have a separate, more "Comprehensive" user guide... then, I would do a > diff... also. > > Let me know. > Thanks > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Barton" > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: "marcia wilbur" > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 12:42:18 AM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Hi Marcia, > > WIP (Work I Progress) is one of the folders in our NextCloud workspace. > If you have been given access to NextCloud, you can find Jean's WIP > files in this folder: > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ocb9ASst8PAPkSC > > If you do not have NextCloud access yet, please post a request to this list. > > Hope this helps. > > Best Regards > Dave > > > On 22/10/2020 23:46, marcia wilbur wrote: >> Hi. I was able to access Jean's GSG Writer version but could not find docs >> in WIP folder for 7.0 Writer? >> Is this due to checkout? or where can I access the Writer Guide WIP to >> review. >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "marcia wilbur" >> To: "Jean Weber" >> Cc: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:51:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Yes. It does.:) I can take a pass at review. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jean Weber" >> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:06:31 PM >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Several chapters have been updated and need review. Several other chapters >> need to be updated and the reviewed. If you can help, please do. Thank you! >> >> Jean >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help
Hi Marcia, My replies are in-line with the copy of your original message. On 24/10/2020 03:52, marcia wilbur wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > I had Jean's document. Sorry, I don't know which document that would be. > What I need to know is whether the User Guide for each product is separate > from this or not? The "Getting Started with LibreOffice User Guide" is separate from the user guides covering the individual modules of the software. Think of it as an introductory overview of the whole LibreOffice software package. The Getting started guide has an Introduction, 14 Chapters and 2 Appendices: * Introduction * Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice * Chapter 2 Setting up LibreOffice * Chapter 3 Using Styles and Templates * Chapter 4 Getting Started with Writer * Chapter 5 Getting Started with Calc * Chapter 6 Getting Started with Impress * Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw * Chapter 8 Getting Started with Base * Chapter 9 Getting Started with Math * Chapter 10 Printing, Exporting, Emailing and Signing Documents * Chapter 11 Images and Graphics * Chapter 12 Creating HTML Files * Chapter 13 Getting Started with Macros * Chapter 14 Customizing LibreOffice * Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts * Appendix B Open Source, Open Standards, OpenDocument > Do you reuse the Getting Started guide as the user guide for each product. The user guides for each module go into much greater depth and technical detail than can be covered in the "Getting Started" guide. Obviously, there is some duplication of information, but the module guides are developed separately with some occasional references back to the "Getting Started" guide where appropriate. > In that case, I would just take a pass at the Get Started Guide section for > Writer. Jean has already produced the first draft of chapter 4 and it is now in the WIP folder: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/JPAk9trnycXojyT If you do choose to perform the first review of Chapter 4 please update the guide status sheet: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/9oxcjcKTjaNy2CW If you should need any information about the new workflow, I have updated Chapter 3 Using Docs Team Website of the "Contributors Guide". A copy is available here: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/c44MMXpJeLsyBiA The equivalent wiki page is here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/UsingAuthorsWebsite Note: The information on that page is correct, but I still have some wiki formatting to finish off. > If you have a separate, more "Comprehensive" user guide... then, I would do a > diff... also. > > Let me know. > Thanks Best Regards Dave > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Barton" > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: "marcia wilbur" > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 12:42:18 AM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Hi Marcia, > > WIP (Work I Progress) is one of the folders in our NextCloud workspace. > If you have been given access to NextCloud, you can find Jean's WIP > files in this folder: > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ocb9ASst8PAPkSC > > If you do not have NextCloud access yet, please post a request to this list. > > Hope this helps. > > Best Regards > Dave > > > On 22/10/2020 23:46, marcia wilbur wrote: >> Hi. I was able to access Jean's GSG Writer version but could not find docs >> in WIP folder for 7.0 Writer? >> Is this due to checkout? or where can I access the Writer Guide WIP to >> review. >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "marcia wilbur" >> To: "Jean Weber" >> Cc: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:51:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Yes. It does.:) I can take a pass at review. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jean Weber" >> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:06:31 PM >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Several chapters have been updated and need review. Several other chapters >> need to be updated and the reviewed. If you can help, please do. Thank you! >> >> Jean >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
