Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Robert Großkopf
Hi Jean, hi Steve,

> Can we identify portions of the German book about Firebird that could
> be translated and go into the English version? Or are the books too
> different now?

Have a look at the chapter "Tabellen"→"Direkte Eingabe von SQL-Befehlen"
of "Base Handbuch 7.2"
(https://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/). I have integrated
the difference of HSQLDB and Firebird for every SQL-code written there.
I marked all with green colored "HSQLDB", which will work with HSQLDB
and all with green colored "FIREBIRD", which will work in Firebird. Also
the parts, which won't work, were marked red colored and cancelled.

There is another chapter "Abfragen"→"Abfrageerweiterungen im SQL-Modus"
which will show many of this differences between HSQLDB and Firebird..

The English guide will ha a chapter "Appendix B", which won't appear
here. It has been integrated by me in "Appendix A". There is the same
structure for Functions and data types. I marked it the same with
"HSQLDB" and "Firebird".

I haven't removed much content to the Base Handbuch. I only added new
content. So the structure of the Base Handbuch will be the same as the
structure of the Base Guide. One new chapter I have seen directly was
the chapter about SQLite - 1 page - in chapter "Datenbanken erstellen".
There are many more chapters like the chapter about charts in forms or
gridcontrols in dialogs. But all this isn't essential for showing the
difference between Firebird and HSQLDB.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Release Notes 7.3 wiki page errors

2021-11-22 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

On 22.11.2021 22.54, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

Hello,

just want to report, the wiki page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.3
has errors (the name of the translation unit 263 has several instances) and
thus cannot be marked for translation in the latest version.

Please fix this and mark the latest version available for translation.


This has been fixed. When editing the wiki, translation markers should 
not be manually added as they are created automatically, when you mark a 
page for translation. They can be deleted alongside content that you remove.


Ilmari

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
I have now checked Chapter 7 of the Base Guide, which covers (among
other things) the Mail Merge function, which uses Writer. There have
been some changes: relatively minor, involving a few of the Mail Merge
dialogs and including at least one extra function. I can update these
in the BG chapter using material from the WG chapter. Someone else
(perhaps you) will need to do the part of BG Ch7 on Calc.

I also think there may have been a minor issue with one of the sample
databases, but I will have to check on that and get back to you.

Jean

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:32 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> I think there may be some changes in Writer that might affect the discussion 
> of using Base with Writer. I’ll take a look.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 18:17 Steve Fanning  
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everybody.
>>
>> All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide
>> which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody
>> is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this
>> assumption is wrong.
>>
>> As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to
>> start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3
>> (depending how long the update takes).
>>
>> I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can
>> read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I
>> expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release
>> notes list only a few changes.
>>
>> If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know
>> via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
Robert,
Can we identify portions of the German book about Firebird that could
be translated and go into the English version? Or are the books too
different now?

Steve, FYI the English Base Guide started out as a translation of the
German Base Handbuch; it has been revised and portions rewritten since
then. But once or twice, several years ago, new or changed parts of
the German book were inserted into the English book, translated (by
various people, plus Google), and edited (often by me). I think it
worked well. But if the books have diverged too much, this may not be
practical.

Jean

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 6:16 AM Robert Großkopf
 wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental.
> Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are
> many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be
> deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3.
>
> We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at
> the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an
> Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird.
> German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but
> another translation form German to English won't be a good idea.
>
> Regards
>
> Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide for 7.x?

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks, Martin, Ilmari, Rafael. I agree the wording of the Math Guide
should be revised to match the GS chapter.

I am willing to take on the updating and revision of this book for LO
7.2. I will look into the topics Ilmari mentions, as well as what's in
the Release Notes.

Jean

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 01:40 Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:
>
> From my experience localizing the chapters of GS and the Math guide in 
> OmetgaT: the Math guide is very similar to Math chapter in GS guide (it is 
> only extended in some parts) - but GS chapter got thoroughly revised by the 
> reviewers (regarding wording) from 7.0 (I think), while the Math guide 
> remained the same.
> So it would be great to see the differences from 7.2 Math GS chapter and the 
> 7.0 Math guide - IMHO, that would be the first step for an updater.
>
> Lp,m.
>
> V V pon., 22. nov. 2021 ob 11:40 je oseba Jean Weber  
> napisala:
>>
>> Is anyone updating the Math Guide for 7.x? The last time I looked at a
>> published copy, I noticed some formatting problems in some of the tables
>> that I’d  be happy to fix before a new edition is published, if someone
>> else doesn’t fix them first.
>>
>> Jean
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Release Notes 7.3 wiki page errors

2021-11-22 Thread Rafael Lima
Hi Martin,

I fixed the duplicate occurrence of ID 263.

Rafael


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 5:56 PM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> just want to report, the wiki page
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.3
> has errors (the name of the translation unit 263 has several instances) and
> thus cannot be marked for translation in the latest version.
>
> Please fix this and mark the latest version available for translation.
>
> Lp, m.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Felipe Viggiano de Souza

Hello everyone,

Congratulations to Steve, Peter and everyone involved on the recent 
published guides! Very nice!!



Steve,

I do not have much experience with LO Base, but I can help with the reviews!


Best regards,

Felipe Viggiano



Em 22/11/2021 05:16, Steve Fanning escreveu:

Hello everybody.

All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide 
which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody 
is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if 
this assumption is wrong.


As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose 
to start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 
(depending how long the update takes).


I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can 
read the document and check its text and figures against the software. 
I expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release 
notes list only a few changes.


If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us 
know via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!


Regards,

Steve




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Steve Fanning

Hi Robert,

Thanks for that and apologies for my daft questions (I'm not always 
aware of the history of the project).


I'll give some more thought to improving this area in the (English) Base 
Guide, although I probably won't be able to do much during this 
iteration. I do, however, believe passionately that we should not be 
using the guides to highlight implementation problems, bugs, and 
instability!


Translating German materials doesn't sound a great idea for me - it 
would be too big a step for my schoolboy German (even with the help of 
Google Translate).


Based on what you've read in the German "Base Handbuch", are there any 
particular areas that we might be able to improve in the Base Guide by 
extracting information from the Firebird 3.0 documentation 
(https://firebirdsql.org/en/reference-manuals/)?


Regards,

Steve


On 22/11/2021 20:15, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Steve,

creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental.
Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are
many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be
deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3.

We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at
the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an
Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird.
German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but
another translation form German to English won't be a good idea.

Regards

Robert


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[libreoffice-documentation] Release Notes 7.3 wiki page errors

2021-11-22 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hello,

just want to report, the wiki page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.3
has errors (the name of the translation unit 263 has several instances) and
thus cannot be marked for translation in the latest version.

Please fix this and mark the latest version available for translation.

Lp, m.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Robert Großkopf
Hi Steve,

creating a new internal Firebird database has been set to experimental.
Using the created Firebird database isn't experimental. So there are
many people, who had created such a database (thinking HSQLDB will be
deprecated) and won't notice any difference to versions before LO 6.4.3.

We need a description of Firebird for this people, but having a look at
the English Guide there is not much description for Firebird. Only an
Appendix B, which shows the difference betwenn HSQLDB and Firebird.
German "Base Handbuch" contains many more descrition about Firebird, but
another translation form German to English won't be a good idea.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I have about 20 odd years experience in documentation

2021-11-22 Thread marcia wilbur
Lorraine, 

How nice to have another writer volunteering with this effort. 

There are a few thing to note in the guides.

1. Language "that" "it" and basic grammar.
2. Superfluous language rather than imperatives... You can "do this" instead of 
"Do this!"
3. Inanimate object personification "them".

These are just a few items to clean up in the docs. FYI.

-Marcia


From: "Jean Weber" 
To: "lorraine dick" 
Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 4:01:38 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I have about 20 odd years experience 
in documentation

Welcome. This list strips out attachments, so we don’t see which page or
typo you’re referring to. Also, you will probably find that some of the
info on the wiki about the team and its work is incomplete, contradictory,
or otherwise confusing. It’s been under revision for some time.

Jean
(Another retired tech writer/editor; former coordinator / cat herder here
at LibreOffice)

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:15 Lorraine Dick  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have about 20 odd years experience writing user manuals for several
> different software companies with a wide range of subjects. I served on the
> board for the Montreal Technical Communicators Society and served as a
> judge for their annual manual contest. I have written large manuals, quick
> starts, release notes, online help, and just about everything in between
> including a style guide for one company.
> I have used MS Word since its inception but professionally I used
> FrameMaker. I just retired and now have the time and inclination to switch
> from being Microsoft dependent to Linux. Before I completely severed
> the ties to MS I wanted to be sure that I could replace Word. I have been
> testing several word processor programs over the past year and am happy to
> report that LibreOffice is the winner.  It almost rivals FrameMaker.
> WooWee!!!
> I would be honoured to be a part of this amazing project. As a writer, I
> tend to be a tad bit critical and I have to say that except for the typo on
> the webpage (see attached image) nothing else has jumped out. Pretty damn
> good!
> [image: image.png]
> As was suggested on the web page, I will read everything I can find. When
> you switch companies you have to be able to learn fast and start writing.
> I jokingly said in a job interview, "I can write about that which I know
> nothing about" and presented them with a quickstart to programming the VCR.
>
> So there you have it.
>
> Cheers
> Lorraine
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Steve Fanning

Hello everybody,

In my experience so far working within the Documentation Team, we don't 
tend to describe experimental features within the guides.Therefore, 
given its current status, would I be better off removing discussion of 
the internal Firebird engine from the 7.2 Base Guide?


This would avoid references to a "large number of bugs", "instability" 
and warnings to "be extremely careful here". These don't read well when 
trying to convince users that LO is a quality product.


The material could easily be re-instated later, if and when Firebird is 
promoted from experimental to operational.


Any opinions please?

Regards,

Steve



On 22/11/2021 09:22, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi Steve,

there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.

Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.

Regards

Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide for 7.x?

2021-11-22 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
From my experience localizing the chapters of GS and the Math guide in
OmetgaT: the Math guide is very similar to Math chapter in GS guide (it is
only extended in some parts) - but GS chapter got thoroughly revised by the
reviewers (regarding wording) from 7.0 (I think), while the Math guide
remained the same.
So it would be great to see the differences from 7.2 Math GS chapter and
the 7.0 Math guide - IMHO, that would be the first step for an updater.

Lp,m.

V V pon., 22. nov. 2021 ob 11:40 je oseba Jean Weber 
napisala:

> Is anyone updating the Math Guide for 7.x? The last time I looked at a
> published copy, I noticed some formatting problems in some of the tables
> that I’d  be happy to fix before a new edition is published, if someone
> else doesn’t fix them first.
>
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide for 7.x?

2021-11-22 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

On 22.11.2021 13.49, Rafael Lima wrote:

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:41 AM Jean Weber  wrote:


Is anyone updating the Math Guide for 7.x? The last time I looked at a
published copy, I noticed some formatting problems in some of the tables
that I’d  be happy to fix before a new edition is published, if someone
else doesn’t fix them first.

Jean

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> Hi Jean,
>
> I took a look at the release notes and a few minor changes were made 
to LO

> Math since 7.0.
> - 7.1: Math has now a full support of HTML colors
> - 7.2: It's now possible to scale the code input box.
> - 7.3: Nothing so far
>
> If you can do the initial updating of the chapters, I'll be happy to 
review

> them.
>
> Regards,
> Rafael Lima
>

Hmm, the release notes seem to be lacking in this department. Dante has 
done quite a lot of work on Math and support for MathML. Most of it has 
been internal improvements & refactoring, though, not user-facing.


https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+log?pretty=oneline=dante19031999%40gmail.com

I'm not really capable of summarising. I guess Dante himself would be 
the best person to explain. Something I've written on the QA blog:


https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/01/08/qa-dev-report-december-2020/

Dante Doménech worked on support for MathML custom entities and improved 
fastparser


https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2020/12/04/qa-dev-report-november-2020/

Dante Doménech made many improvements to Math: he added hexadecimal 
number and colour support, added command for frac and evaluate, 
renovated examples and greatly improved colour support (also with MathML)


Ilmari

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Rafael Lima
Hi everyone!

An update to the Base Guide is surely needed. You can count on me for
reviewing chapters.

Rafael


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:46 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I agree, and I suggest 7.2. It would be nice to have a complete set of
> guides branded for the same release. If Peter does Draw and Steve does Base
> and someone (who?) does Math, we could have a full set for 7.2.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:13 Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>
> wrote:
>
> > HI
> >  From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software
> > version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release
> > of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.
> >
> > Regards
> > Olivier
> >
> > Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
> > > should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
> > > back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
> > > dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.
> > >
> > > Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature
> "Auto
> > > Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide for 7.x?

2021-11-22 Thread Rafael Lima
Hi Jean,

I took a look at the release notes and a few minor changes were made to LO
Math since 7.0.
- 7.1: Math has now a full support of HTML colors
- 7.2: It's now possible to scale the code input box.
- 7.3: Nothing so far

If you can do the initial updating of the chapters, I'll be happy to review
them.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:41 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> Is anyone updating the Math Guide for 7.x? The last time I looked at a
> published copy, I noticed some formatting problems in some of the tables
> that I’d  be happy to fix before a new edition is published, if someone
> else doesn’t fix them first.
>
> Jean
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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.2

2021-11-22 Thread Peter Schofield
Version 01 of DG7201 Introducing Draw for the Draw Guide 7.2 is in the Work In 
Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its first review and comment.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.2

2021-11-22 Thread Peter Schofield
Version 01 of DG7200 Preface for the Draw Guide 7.2 is now in the Work In 
Progress folder on NextCloud ready for its first review and comment.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] I have about 20 odd years experience in documentation

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
Welcome. This list strips out attachments, so we don’t see which page or
typo you’re referring to. Also, you will probably find that some of the
info on the wiki about the team and its work is incomplete, contradictory,
or otherwise confusing. It’s been under revision for some time.

Jean
(Another retired tech writer/editor; former coordinator / cat herder here
at LibreOffice)

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:15 Lorraine Dick  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have about 20 odd years experience writing user manuals for several
> different software companies with a wide range of subjects. I served on the
> board for the Montreal Technical Communicators Society and served as a
> judge for their annual manual contest. I have written large manuals, quick
> starts, release notes, online help, and just about everything in between
> including a style guide for one company.
> I have used MS Word since its inception but professionally I used
> FrameMaker. I just retired and now have the time and inclination to switch
> from being Microsoft dependent to Linux. Before I completely severed
> the ties to MS I wanted to be sure that I could replace Word. I have been
> testing several word processor programs over the past year and am happy to
> report that LibreOffice is the winner.  It almost rivals FrameMaker.
> WooWee!!!
> I would be honoured to be a part of this amazing project. As a writer, I
> tend to be a tad bit critical and I have to say that except for the typo on
> the webpage (see attached image) nothing else has jumped out. Pretty damn
> good!
> [image: image.png]
> As was suggested on the web page, I will read everything I can find. When
> you switch companies you have to be able to learn fast and start writing.
> I jokingly said in a job interview, "I can write about that which I know
> nothing about" and presented them with a quickstart to programming the VCR.
>
> So there you have it.
>
> Cheers
> Lorraine
>
>
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> coordinator
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
I agree, and I suggest 7.2. It would be nice to have a complete set of
guides branded for the same release. If Peter does Draw and Steve does Base
and someone (who?) does Math, we could have a full set for 7.2.

Jean

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:13 Olivier Hallot 
wrote:

> HI
>  From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software
> version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release
> of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.
>
> Regards
> Olivier
>
> Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
> > should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
> > back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
> > dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.
> >
> > Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
> > Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Robert
> >
>
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide for 7.x?

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
Is anyone updating the Math Guide for 7.x? The last time I looked at a
published copy, I noticed some formatting problems in some of the tables
that I’d  be happy to fix before a new edition is published, if someone
else doesn’t fix them first.

Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
I think there may be some changes in Writer that might affect the
discussion of using Base with Writer. I’ll take a look.

Jean

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 18:17 Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hello everybody.
>
> All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide
> which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody
> is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this
> assumption is wrong.
>
> As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to
> start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3
> (depending how long the update takes).
>
> I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can
> read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I
> expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release
> notes list only a few changes.
>
> If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know
> via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] I have about 20 odd years experience in documentation

2021-11-22 Thread Lorraine Dick
Hi,
I have about 20 odd years experience writing user manuals for several
different software companies with a wide range of subjects. I served on the
board for the Montreal Technical Communicators Society and served as a
judge for their annual manual contest. I have written large manuals, quick
starts, release notes, online help, and just about everything in between
including a style guide for one company.
I have used MS Word since its inception but professionally I used
FrameMaker. I just retired and now have the time and inclination to switch
from being Microsoft dependent to Linux. Before I completely severed
the ties to MS I wanted to be sure that I could replace Word. I have been
testing several word processor programs over the past year and am happy to
report that LibreOffice is the winner.  It almost rivals FrameMaker.
WooWee!!!
I would be honoured to be a part of this amazing project. As a writer, I
tend to be a tad bit critical and I have to say that except for the typo on
the webpage (see attached image) nothing else has jumped out. Pretty damn
good!
[image: image.png]
As was suggested on the web page, I will read everything I can find. When
you switch companies you have to be able to learn fast and start writing.
I jokingly said in a job interview, "I can write about that which I know
nothing about" and presented them with a quickstart to programming the VCR.

So there you have it.

Cheers
Lorraine



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Olivier Hallot

HI
From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software 
version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release 
of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.


Regards
Olivier

Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:

Hi Steve,

there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.

Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.

Regards

Robert



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Robert Großkopf
Hi Steve,

there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.

Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature "Auto
Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.

Regards

Robert
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[libreoffice-documentation] Print copies of LO 7.2 Impress Guide and Calc Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Jean Weber
Print copies of LO 7.2 Impress Guide and Calc Guide are now available
through the Lulu bookstore. I have added links om the wiki page.

Impress
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/libreoffice-documentation-team/libreoffice-72-impress-guide/paperback/product-4gmnd5.html

Calc
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/libreoffice-documentation-team/libreoffice-72-calc-guide/paperback/product-p8e57n.html

Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

2021-11-22 Thread Steve Fanning

Hello everybody.

All our guides now reflect LibreOffice 7, apart from the Base Guide 
which currently describes LibreOffice 6.4. As far as I can see, nobody 
is working on an update to the Base Guide but please correct me if this 
assumption is wrong.


As discussed at the most recent Documentation Team meeting, I propose to 
start updating the Base Guide so that it reflects either 7.2 or 7.3 
(depending how long the update takes).


I do not claim to be particularly knowledgeable about Base, but I can 
read the document and check its text and figures against the software. I 
expect the update to be mostly cosmetic because the various release 
notes list only a few changes.


If anybody is interested in helping with this update, please let us know 
via this mailing list. All assistance will be extremely welcome!


Regards,

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hear ! Hear ! The Impresss Guide 7.2 just arrived !

2021-11-22 Thread Peter Schofield
Thanks for getting the Impress guide ready for general use.

Next is the Draw Guide.

Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

> On 22 Nov 2021, at 02:08, Jean Weber  wrote:
> 
> Fixed now. I also replaced all the 7.2 chapter files with ones having
> the corrected title page logo.
> 
> BTW, I had to change the filename of Chapter 10 because "Saving" is a
> banned word on the wiki. I used
> IG7210-SlideShowsPrintEmailExportSave.odt / .pdf which is what that
> chapter was named for v7.0.
> 
> I am now working on the print edition of the book.
> 
> Jean
> 
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 6:39 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>> 
>> Peter,
>> Apologies. My mistake. I was not paying enough attention when I updated that 
>> wiki page. I’ll fix it today.
>> Jean
>> 
>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 20:26 Peter Schofield  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Olivier
>>> 
>>> Just checked the Impress files at 
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Impress_Guide
>>>  
>>> .
>>> 
>>> Where is Chapter 12 User Interface Variants, filename 
>>> IG7212-UserInterfaceVariants? This is a new chapter added.
>>> 
>>> Also Appendices A & B now have filenames IG7213 and IG7214 respectively.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Peter Schofield
>>> psaut...@gmail.com
>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
>>> 
 On 20 Nov 2021, at 20:49, Olivier Hallot  
 wrote:
 
 Spread the word !!!
 
 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/11/20/announcing-the-impress-guide-7-2/
 
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