Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Frame styles question and captioned image resizing.

2022-06-04 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Olivier,

Applying a frame style to a graphic object in a text document does not 
mean that all style properties listed in the frame style dialog are 
applied.


In particular, the "anchoring", “keep ratio”, “auto size”, “relative 
to”, “width” and “height” found in the Type tab of a frame style are not 
applied to the object.


Which is rather confusing, unless it’s a bug.


Maybe I'm adding confusion, but it might also help understanding what 
settings work in frame styles and what not..


I've experienced that when you create a custom object style from an 
image/object that you gave some properties, there is no way to exclude 
the width & height òr to make sure that the aspect ratio is preserved 
when the style is applied to an object. Also changing the style's 
definition in the xml-styles file, didn't help.


Cheers,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Frame styles question and captioned image resizing.

2022-06-04 Thread Peter Schofield
Hello Olivier

If you adjust frame size for a figure, the image inside the frame automatically 
adjusts its size to fit the frame. However, you have to select “Keep ratio” 
option to maintain the correct image size. I do this adding figures to the user 
guide.

Regards 

Peter Schofield
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> On 4 Jun 2022, at 16:58, Olivier Hallot  
> wrote:
> 
> Part of the issue is answered by Regina
> 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32484#c22
> 
> 
> One reason of the problem is, that ODF allows the setting "anchor-type" as 
> direct attribute of an object and as part of a style. If both are present, 
> the object attribute "wins". Currently LibreOffice writes it as direct 
> attribute and do not include it in custom defined style. Only the predefined 
> styles have set the anchor-type as part of the style.
> 
> If you derive your custom style from an predefined style, it will inherit the 
> setting. Currently there is Watermark with anchored to page, and Frame, 
> Graphics, Marginalia and OLE anchored to paragraph, and Formula and Labels 
> anchored as-char.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Em 04/06/2022 05:59, Olivier Hallot escreveu:
>> Hi
>> I am making some adjustments in images for the Base Guide and found 
>> "inconsistencies" in frame styling.
>> Applying a frame style to a graphic object in a text document does not mean 
>> that all style properties listed in the frame style dialog are applied.
>> In particular, the "anchoring", “keep ratio”, “auto size”, “relative to”, 
>> “width” and “height” found in the Type tab of a frame style are not applied 
>> to the object.
>> Which is rather confusing, unless it’s a bug.
>> The Writer guide mentions anchoring as a manual setting, but not the other 
>> settings above.
>> Also, the Writer guide mention captioning how-to topics but not one use case 
>> we find so often: resizing captioned images.
>> https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7308-IntroStyles.html#toc25
>> https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7311-ImagesAndGraphics.html#toc18
>> Ideally I would like to resize the frame and get the internal 
>> image/screenshot resized accordingly (or vice-versa). It is not clear to me 
>> how the frame properties relates to the image (also a frame) inside, and if 
>> there are parameters to set to bind the 2.
>> A clear instructions on this use case will go into the guides, Help and wiki.
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides
>>  
>> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/01/05060100.html?=SHARED=UNIX
>>  Kind regards
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Frame styles question and captioned image resizing.

2022-06-04 Thread Olivier Hallot

Part of the issue is answered by Regina

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32484#c22


One reason of the problem is, that ODF allows the setting "anchor-type" 
as direct attribute of an object and as part of a style. If both are 
present, the object attribute "wins". Currently LibreOffice writes it as 
direct attribute and do not include it in custom defined style. Only the 
predefined styles have set the anchor-type as part of the style.


If you derive your custom style from an predefined style, it will 
inherit the setting. Currently there is Watermark with anchored to page, 
and Frame, Graphics, Marginalia and OLE anchored to paragraph, and 
Formula and Labels anchored as-char.






Em 04/06/2022 05:59, Olivier Hallot escreveu:

Hi

I am making some adjustments in images for the Base Guide and found 
"inconsistencies" in frame styling.


Applying a frame style to a graphic object in a text document does not 
mean that all style properties listed in the frame style dialog are 
applied.


In particular, the "anchoring", “keep ratio”, “auto size”, “relative 
to”, “width” and “height” found in the Type tab of a frame style are not 
applied to the object.


Which is rather confusing, unless it’s a bug.

The Writer guide mentions anchoring as a manual setting, but not the 
other settings above.


Also, the Writer guide mention captioning how-to topics but not one use 
case we find so often: resizing captioned images.


https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7308-IntroStyles.html#toc25
https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7311-ImagesAndGraphics.html#toc18

Ideally I would like to resize the frame and get the internal 
image/screenshot resized accordingly (or vice-versa). It is not clear to 
me how the frame properties relates to the image (also a frame) inside, 
and if there are parameters to set to bind the 2.


A clear instructions on this use case will go into the guides, Help and 
wiki.


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides 



https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/01/05060100.html?=SHARED=UNIX 



Kind regards


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[libreoffice-documentation] Frame styles question and captioned image resizing.

2022-06-04 Thread Olivier Hallot

Hi

I am making some adjustments in images for the Base Guide and found 
"inconsistencies" in frame styling.


Applying a frame style to a graphic object in a text document does not 
mean that all style properties listed in the frame style dialog are applied.


In particular, the "anchoring", “keep ratio”, “auto size”, “relative 
to”, “width” and “height” found in the Type tab of a frame style are not 
applied to the object.


Which is rather confusing, unless it’s a bug.

The Writer guide mentions anchoring as a manual setting, but not the 
other settings above.


Also, the Writer guide mention captioning how-to topics but not one use 
case we find so often: resizing captioned images.


https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7308-IntroStyles.html#toc25
https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG73/WG7311-ImagesAndGraphics.html#toc18

Ideally I would like to resize the frame and get the internal 
image/screenshot resized accordingly (or vice-versa). It is not clear to 
me how the frame properties relates to the image (also a frame) inside, 
and if there are parameters to set to bind the 2.


A clear instructions on this use case will go into the guides, Help and 
wiki.


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/01/05060100.html?=SHARED=UNIX

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