Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tutorials and Howtos
I have used the blog poster extension with graphics. It does work. The settings are not very self explanatory so I had to play with them till I got them right. Then of course it was face palm time, of course that's how it should be. You simply choose your provider as the source of the images. Little did I know Blogger stored your images for you in Picassa. I was wondering about wordpress. I can't even get it to connect to wordpress, at all. *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: I certainly would not like to see the blog use that method as a standard thing, but if the article is in ODT and is longish and has many pictures, then putting it into the blog is extra work (which, for me, won't get done). See my comments below about using the wiki publisher extension. I suspect the same problem would apply to the blog publisher, but I've never tried it. Have you used it for articles that contain graphics? --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tutorials and Howtos
Hi John, thanks for your comments. My responses are interleaved below. On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 22:02 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: 3) I have a collection of tutorial type material that I've written, which has either been published on my own blog or in a book I've written, but which has never been placed on the OOo wiki. Also some items of mine that are on the OOo wiki. All of these could become part of the LibO documentation set... if I ever find time to do it. 4) These tutorials and howtos could be published on the blog, but they could --IMO should-- also be collected on one or more pages of the wiki, for easier reference. Also, some are too long for the blog, so having them on the wiki with teasers on the blog could be the way to go. I follow a blog that has recently changed to that type of format. A tease on the front page and click through for the article. I don't like it. I want the whole article there to read when I click from the newsletter. I don't see it as a problem if it is only within certain blog posts, not as a format of the blog. I certainly would not like to see the blog use that method as a standard thing, but if the article is in ODT and is longish and has many pictures, then putting it into the blog is extra work (which, for me, won't get done). See my comments below about using the wiki publisher extension. I suspect the same problem would apply to the blog publisher, but I've never tried it. Have you used it for articles that contain graphics? 5) Some items might go well in wiki format, unlike the user guides which are in ODT with only a download link on the wiki. However, many of my items already exist in ODT, so it would be easier and faster to get an initial set of material on the wiki in that form. People writing new stuff, especially if adapting existing material from the user guides, might find it easier to use ODT too. Others might prefer to work directly in the wiki. IMHO, we should all be working in LibO and then cutting and pasting into the blog. That way we get important user vision and gain user voice for our blog posts. There is a post about filtering text in Calc on the users list. Is that for real? It's so easy, it is all there when you bring up the filter dialogue box, even the copy to command. I sometimes wonder if we are being tested by others. Any thoughts or comments on any of this? I haven't begun to look at the wiki and how best to add this sort of thing to it, but as we are reorganising the wiki anyway, this could be part of the reorganisation. I do hope David N finds time to work on the reorg, because I've been so involved with some of it, I no longer see the problems or what's missing. But wiki reorganisation is a topic for a separate note... This one is too long already. It's the wiki that confuses me. LOL. Anyway, there are two extensions for OO.o, There is a blog poster and a wiki poster. I have been able to use the blog poster extension to post to blogger but not wordpress. Anyone else use it? I haven't used the wiki poster extension yet. Do you use it? I have not used the wiki publisher extension to post directly to a wiki, mainly because all of the things I've done so far need manual cleanup after going through the wiki publisher. So I send the results from the wiki publisher to a text file, do the manual cleanup, and then paste the results into the wiki itself. I believe that the wiki publisher works fine for files containing text and perhaps some tables, but as soon as you add images, it can't cope. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tutorials and Howtos
Jean On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 11:34 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: Tossing out some thoughts for discussion... 1) In addition to the user guides and the blog, IMO we need to develop a set of tutorials or howtos. Videos would be great for many topics, but that is outside my area of expertise, so I'll talk here about written ones (some of which could be used as the starting point for someone doing videos, of course). 2) The user list is a great source of ideas for tutorials and howto documents. In many cases I read them and realise there is a topic in the user guides that could be repurposed into a tutorial with a bit of rewriting and usually the addition of an example or two. In fact, many topics in the user guides began life several years ago as answers to questions on the OOO forums. 3) I have a collection of tutorial type material that I've written, which has either been published on my own blog or in a book I've written, but which has never been placed on the OOo wiki. Also some items of mine that are on the OOo wiki. All of these could become part of the LibO documentation set... if I ever find time to do it. 4) These tutorials and howtos could be published on the blog, but they could --IMO should-- also be collected on one or more pages of the wiki, for easier reference. Also, some are too long for the blog, so having them on the wiki with teasers on the blog could be the way to go. 5) Some items might go well in wiki format, unlike the user guides which are in ODT with only a download link on the wiki. However, many of my items already exist in ODT, so it would be easier and faster to get an initial set of material on the wiki in that form. People writing new stuff, especially if adapting existing material from the user guides, might find it easier to use ODT too. Others might prefer to work directly in the wiki. Any thoughts or comments on any of this? I haven't begun to look at the wiki and how best to add this sort of thing to it, but as we are reorganising the wiki anyway, this could be part of the reorganisation. I do hope David N finds time to work on the reorg, because I've been so involved with some of it, I no longer see the problems or what's missing. But wiki reorganisation is a topic for a separate note... This one is too long already. Sometimes I think that I think too much. I dream up ideas faster than I can put them into practice. ;-) --Jean I think that is a good idea for howto docs. The blogs can give a good overview and the howtos could include screen shoots that would make a blog excessively long. They could also be downloaded as option, may as an Impress presentation optionally with a voice over. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
