Re: [Dorset] Next Bournemouth meet?
I would not presume to make a decision for the group, particularly as I'm fairly new to the group. However, I can make a suggestion of course ;-) For me, the Broadway is by far the best venue as it's got the most frequent evening bus service (No 3) and I also happen to live on route No 3 so that is obviously extremely convenient for me and is therefore my preference. As for the days, according to the answer given to Victor by the landlord, I would suggest a Tuesday night then. This leaves us with 7th and 14th as 21st is too near Xmas and I'm sure a lot of us are already booked then for various Xmas parties and so on. Personally, I think I can do both, though 14th would be preferred as I've got to get up very early on the 8th so I'd rather an early night in on the 7th. So my suggestion would be Tuesday 14th December at the Broadway. What does everyone think about that? On 26 November 2010 20:57, Peter Merchant madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 07:54 +, Natalie Hooper wrote: Has a date been decided for the next Bournemouth meet? Is the plan still to meet at The Broadway on a non-karaoke night? You asked the question, and a few suggestions have been made. Please take an executive decision and tell us where to meet, then Terry can post it. -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] network problems
Hi StarLion, tcp6  0  0 linux:ipp     [::]:*     LISTEN 1132/cupsd So my big question is what are all these connections that are established? mysqld is, as the process name suggest, the mysql database daemon running. ... I think you missed the Which I would expect bit. :-) Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 360, Issue 7
Thanks Ralph, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_domain_socket That all makes sense now. I was unnecessarily concerned. Brian M. -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
Hi, I have around 600-700 audio tracks that I originally ripped from CDs into .ogg format for playing in Amarok. All of these are organised in folders categorised by Artist and then Album. Subsequent to this, I bought a plug-in car MP3 player, which didn't deal with .ogg and also couldn't handle folders, so I ripped everything again into MP3 format in a single directory. I also spent quite a long time normalising all the audio because the (cheap) plug-in MP3 player couldn't cope with loud and high pitched notes at the same time. I now have a new car with built in MP3 player :-) It seems to play the MP3s fine, but it also seems to be expecting a hierarchical file structure, because when I hit the 'Title' button it spends quite while looking for folder names (which aren't there of course). What I would therefore like to do is to sort all the files back into a folder structure again. Does anyone know of a tool that can do this? I know it can be done with a bash script, but I'm not sure of the best way to do it. I've found a few things out: * The tool id3tool can identify the key elements in the ID3 tag and presumably by looping through all the files in the directory I could write them into folder names. * I found reference to another tool, which is apparently better, called id3info, but that isn't in the Ubuntu repositories. * I found reference to another tool that claims to do the whole thing. It is called Sort MP3 and is a perl script, but the link is dead. So. Is a bash script the best approach, or is there a better way? The filenames are descriptive, but not consistent, so they don't really help. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, I have around 600-700 audio tracks that I originally ripped from CDs into .ogg format for playing in Amarok. All of these are organised in folders categorised by Artist and then Album. Subsequent to this, I bought a plug-in car MP3 player, which didn't deal with .ogg and also couldn't handle folders, so I ripped everything again into MP3 format in a single directory. I also spent quite a long time normalising all the audio because the (cheap) plug-in MP3 player couldn't cope with loud and high pitched notes at the same time. I now have a new car with built in MP3 player :-) It seems to play the MP3s fine, but it also seems to be expecting a hierarchical file structure, because when I hit the 'Title' button it spends quite while looking for folder names (which aren't there of course). What I would therefore like to do is to sort all the files back into a folder structure again. Does anyone know of a tool that can do this? I know it can be done with a bash script, but I'm not sure of the best way to do it. I've found a few things out: * The tool id3tool can identify the key elements in the ID3 tag and presumably by looping through all the files in the directory I could write them into folder names. * I found reference to another tool, which is apparently better, called id3info, but that isn't in the Ubuntu repositories. * I found reference to another tool that claims to do the whole thing. It is called Sort MP3 and is a perl script, but the link is dead. So. Is a bash script the best approach, or is there a better way? The filenames are descriptive, but not consistent, so they don't really help. Terry, doesn't Amarok have an option to sort everything into directories by tag for you? It used to... -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On Saturday 27 Nov 2010, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: So. Is a bash script the best approach, or is there a better way? The filenames are descriptive, but not consistent, so they don't really help. Terry, doesn't Amarok have an option to sort everything into directories by tag for you? It used to... If there is, I can't see it. Amarok is very good at sorting tracks into categories and displaying everything there is to know about them, but I can't see anything that would provide an output function to create a hierarchical file structure from track data in a single source directory. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: Does anyone know of a tool that can do this? Hi Terry, An alternative approach to yours might have been: - Copy the music directory to an alternative location (i.e. 'cp ~/Music ~/Music_copy') - Point Sound Converter (or Sound Konverter for KDE types) at the new root music directory (i.e. ~/Music_copy) - Convert all the files from ogg to mp3 (the default is I believe to place them in the same directory as they were found in, but opt for this if not), ensuring that you have checked the 'delete original' option Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders [correction]
On 27/11/10 14:15, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: Does anyone know of a tool that can do this? Hi Terry, An alternative approach to yours might have been: - Copy the music directory to an alternative location (i.e. 'cp ~/Music ~/Music_copy') Sorry, that will need to be 'cp -aR ~/Music ~/Music_copy' Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders [correction]
Hi Sean, Sorry, that will need to be 'cp -aR ~/Music ~/Music_copy' -a includes -R so just -a would do. ;-) Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On Saturday 27 Nov 2010, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: Does anyone know of a tool that can do this? Hi Terry, An alternative approach to yours might have been: - Copy the music directory to an alternative location (i.e. 'cp ~/Music ~/Music_copy') - Point Sound Converter (or Sound Konverter for KDE types) at the new root music directory (i.e. ~/Music_copy) - Convert all the files from ogg to mp3 (the default is I believe to place them in the same directory as they were found in, but opt for this if not), ensuring that you have checked the 'delete original' option ATM, I'm trying to find a way that doesn't involve ripping the files afresh or converting from the .oggs. It may be a bit OTT, but I went to a lot of trouble to rip the MP3s from the original sources and then normalise them. If I convert from .ogg, there will probably be a slight conversion loss and if I rip again, I may find it necessary to normalise them again. Amarok does this 'on the fly' so to speak, but if my car doesn't, then some tracks will be ridiculously loud and some too soft for use in a car, even if the decoder can cope with loud and high pitched passages. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On Saturday 27 Nov 2010, Terry Coles wrote: On Saturday 27 Nov 2010, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: Does anyone know of a tool that can do this? OK. I've started trying to put together a script that will sort my tracks. I've found two useful scripts on the web; one to create a list of filenames in a directory and one to parse out the ID3 tags. I've started with the list of filenames, but I have a problem. All of the existing files have been autogenerated by various tools and have filenames like: 12 - Largo, from _the New World_.mp3 When I just put one of these files into a Test directory and run the filename script: #!/bin/bash directorytols=$1 for filename in $( ls $directorytols) do if [ -d $filename ] ; then echo Directory: $filename elif [ -h $filename ] ; then echo Symlink: $filename else echo File: $filename fi done I get: te...@beige:~/Scratch/Test$ ./ListDirectory MP3s File: 12 File: - File: Largo, File: from File: _the File: New File: World_.mp3 Clearly, this script is stumbling over the spaces in the filenames. Normally, I never put spaces in filenames, precisely to prevent problems like this, but I didn't generate this filename (and I have over 600 files like this). Any thoughts on how to fix this? -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On 27/11/10 17:14, Terry Coles wrote: ---8--- OK. I've started trying to put together a script that will sort my tracks. I've found two useful scripts on the web; one to create a list of filenames in a directory and one to parse out the ID3 tags. I've started with the list of filenames, but I have a problem. All of the existing files have been autogenerated by various tools and have filenames like: 12 - Largo, from _the New World_.mp3 When I just put one of these files into a Test directory and run the filename script: #!/bin/bash directorytols=$1 for filename in $( ls $directorytols) do if [ -d $filename ] ; then echo Directory: $filename elif [ -h $filename ] ; then echo Symlink: $filename else echo File: $filename fi done I get: te...@beige:~/Scratch/Test$ ./ListDirectory MP3s File: 12 File: - File: Largo, File: from File: _the File: New File: World_.mp3 Clearly, this script is stumbling over the spaces in the filenames. Normally, I never put spaces in filenames, precisely to prevent problems like this, but I didn't generate this filename (and I have over 600 files like this). Any thoughts on how to fix this? Sorry to be lazy and just dump the text on you, but hopefully you can adapt it: #!/bin/bash O=$IFS IFS=$(echo -en \n\b) for each in `ls -1 *.wav` do sox --norm $each -r 44100 -b 16 resampled_$each done IFS=$O Right, off to cook the tea, so HTH! Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On Saturday 27 Nov 2010, Sean Gibbins wrote: Sorry to be lazy and just dump the text on you, but hopefully you can adapt it: #!/bin/bash O=$IFS IFS=$(echo -en \n\b) for each in `ls -1 *.wav` do sox --norm $each -r 44100 -b 16 resampled_$each done IFS=$O Thanks. I've got the list of filenames out. Onward and upward! Right, off to cook the tea, so HTH! I only have to eat mine :-) -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Next Bournemouth meet?
On 27 November 2010 08:55, Natalie Hooper nataliehoo...@virginmedia.comwrote: So my suggestion would be Tuesday 14th December at the Broadway. What does everyone think about that? +1. Actually I am equally happy with the preceding date if people prefer. It helps that I can walk home from there ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On 27/11/10 14:03, Terry Coles wrote: On Saturday 27 Nov 2010, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: On 27/11/10 13:41, Terry Coles wrote: So. Is a bash script the best approach, or is there a better way? The filenames are descriptive, but not consistent, so they don't really help. Terry, doesn't Amarok have an option to sort everything into directories by tag for you? It used to... If there is, I can't see it. Amarok is very good at sorting tracks into categories and displaying everything there is to know about them, but I can't see anything that would provide an output function to create a hierarchical file structure from track data in a single source directory. I definitely recall it in the older version .. the 2.x series perhaps? This gives some clues:- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-762270.html Of course, the feature may have been dropped from the KDE4 version. -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On 27/11/10 20:43, Ralph Corderoy wrote: That's enough wandering toff optic. :-) Not at all Ralph - I was basically repeating something I had stumbled across that did the trick, and had no idea how it worked, so all this is very interesting - thanks for taking the time to post it! Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Sorting MP3s back into folders
On 27/11/10 20:43, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
Hi Terry,
#!/bin/bash
directorytols=$1
for filename in $( ls $directorytols)
do
if [ -d $filename ] ; then
echo Directory: $filename
elif [ -h $filename ] ; then
echo Symlink: $filename
else
echo File: $filename
fi
done
The problem here is that the output of ls is then parsed by the shell
and that, by default, splits on spaces amongst other things, hence Sean
re-defining IFS (Input Field Separator).
The shell can glob itself avoiding the need for ls if the directory is
changed first, e.g. by using *.
#! /bin/bash
cd ${1?}
for f in *; do
if [[ -h $f ]]; then
echo symlink: $f
elif [[ -d $f ]]; then
echo dir: $f
elif [[ -f $f ]]; then
echo file: $f
else
echo unknown: $f
fi
done
There's a few other changes. I've swapped the order of the -d and -h
tests because -d will succeed if its argument is a symbolic link that
links to a directory. As it was the code only spotted symlinks to
non-directories.
And by using [[]] instead of [], both bash built-ins, the parsing of
words within them is different meaning I don't need to quote $f inside
the [[]] even if it contains spaces, linefeeds, etc. I still need to
quote $f with double-quotes, allowing the variable expansion but
avoiding separation on any whitespace the value may contain, when I want
to pass it as a single word to another command, e.g. echo or mv.
Once upon a time there was just test(1), an external program that sh
would call. It had -f to test for a file, etc. The sh knew nothing of
these tests and just checked the exit value of the test command like any
other. There's a certain elegance in that. Then some bright spark had
the idea of hard linking the test executable as a file called '[' so
instead of writing
if test -f $f; then
you could use brackets;
if [ -f $f ]; then
(The code changed to want a close bracket.) I'm not so sure it was an
improvement. :-)
Later, as machines got bigger some shells decided to implement test's
functionality themselves, to save the fork/exec overhead per invocation
but they had to keep the parsing of test/['s arguments identical to when
it wasn't a built-in, else the differing behaviour would cause problems.
This meant you still had to quote variables, e.g. test -f $f.
So when later shells came along, e.g. Korn shell, it introduced [[]] and
deliberately didn't parse its arguments in the same way, removing the
need to quote the variable in the above case.
That's enough wandering toff optic. :-)
I agree with Sean, it's an interesting digression :)
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals has some good
stuff on the differences between the test types.
Also http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/031
I think it would be a good rule of thumb to say you probably want to use
[[ ]] for most tests, unless you're doing arithmetic in which case (( ))
is the one. The main reason to use [ ] is portability/backwards
compatibility.
It's also probably a good rule of thumb to say that when using a
variable in a script that contains a file name, you should quote it
unless there's a very good reason not to.
e.g. mv $filename $destination
I really suggest reading this document: it's excellent.
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
It covers most of the issues already discussed and many more.
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