Re: [Dorset] Netbook recommendations? (Mark Elkins)
On 2 Dec 2011, at 18:34, Walter Reed wrote: > I have used the Acer Aspire One Netbook for a couple of years and really > enjoy it (£150 with Linpus from Dabs) > > I noted that eBuyer had some 10" netbooks for about £190 a week ago. > > I have used Ubuntu -11.04 Netbook release and now have 11.10 working fine. Had a couple of less than pleasant experiences with Acer in the past. Nice when they worked, but getting some hardware faults fixed under warranty was a bit of a PITA. > To me it seems such better value all round than an expensive tablet. Not > faultless (netbook and me) but always had good support here and online. A tablet and netbook/laptop have very different use cases for me... ideally I'd have both :-) For those who are curious I ordered an N1 last night (as pointed out by Terry Coles) - we'll see how it shapes up when it gets here. Cheers, Adrian -- http://quietstars.com adri...@quietstars.com twitter.com/adrianh t. +44 (0)7752 419080 skype adrianjohnhoward del.icio.us/adrianh -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Netbook recommendations? (Mark Elkins)
I have used the Acer Aspire One Netbook for a couple of years and really enjoy it (£150 with Linpus from Dabs) I noted that eBuyer had some 10" netbooks for about £190 a week ago. I have used Ubuntu -11.04 Netbook release and now have 11.10 working fine. To me it seems such better value all round than an expensive tablet. Not faultless (netbook and me) but always had good support here and online. Regards, Walter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] GNU screen
Hi John, > Yeah, I've used it for that, but a question came up at work the other > day - can this be done between different user accounts? Yes, screen(1) has a multiuser mode and access control lists. See the "multiuser" and "addacl" commands. But it needs screen to be setuid root in order to access the other user's named pipe under /var/run/screen/S-$user, and it isn't on this Ubuntu. Creating a hard-link to user foo's pipe in the S-bar directory and opening up the permissions doesn't work; presumably screen vets the user when scanning the directory. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] GNU screen
On 02/12/11 16:09, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi John, You can also share a screen session from two places (screen -x). This can be handy for two people to share the same terminal, e.g. one watches what the other's doing. Yeah, I've used it for that, but a question came up at work the other day - can this be done between different user accounts? -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] GNU screen
Hi John, > You can also share a screen session from two places (screen -x). This can be handy for two people to share the same terminal, e.g. one watches what the other's doing. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] GNU screen
On 02/12/11 13:43, Tim Allen wrote: Hi I'm often discovering nifty utilities that I'm embarrassed not to have known about years ago. This week it's GNU screen: http://www.gnu.org/s/screen/ Although I haven't really used it, you could also look at tmux which is a more modern utility that does much the same. I think the main selling point of tmux is that it's much, much easier to configure. screen is pretty gnarly, but then again byobu makes it cuddly enough that I've never felt the need. Really useful console window manager, particularly useful for having multiple terminals open on a remote machine, especially as if you lose connection, you can reattach exactly where you left off. Or set a long process running at work, log out and reattach at home. More info at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 I felt embarrassed when, having used screen for years, I discovered features I'd never known about. For example, it can be a pretty passable serial terminal program. You can also share a screen session from two places (screen -x). You can fit the session to the active window with C-A F. It also has the ability to do split windows. There's probably more I've yet to find too! Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] GNU screen
Hi Tim/Ralph & all, On 2 December 2011 14:11, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > I'm often discovering nifty utilities that I'm embarrassed not to have > > known about years ago. This week it's GNU screen: > I too felt a bit silly about not having come across it before I did - and at first I thought "what's the point?" - nowadays it (and emacs) are the first things I install onto a bare new remote machine. I find it particularly handy for watching/working on a number of different cloud servers - they are running Ubuntu so I put the byobu variant on them, with the same setup and set of default 'windows' on each (a shell, a htop, a mutt, an emacs...) and style each one to have a different background colour on the botom status line ;-) > > Yes, very handy. Dates back to the 80s. :) There's also byobu which > is an "enhancement" to screen and can display configurable data. > Probably more useful if you're logging into machines where you want to > observe the performance. > >https://launchpad.net/byobu > Thanks for the link Ralph; I was going to mention the derivation of the word but they beat me to it ;-) Also I was going to moan that byobu seemed only to be available for Ubuntu but I see that there is a Fedora RPM too which is nice! Hope to see some of y'all Tuesday. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] GNU screen
Hi Tim, > I'm often discovering nifty utilities that I'm embarrassed not to have > known about years ago. This week it's GNU screen: > > http://www.gnu.org/s/screen/ Yes, very handy. Dates back to the 80s. :) There's also byobu which is an "enhancement" to screen and can display configurable data. Probably more useful if you're logging into machines where you want to observe the performance. https://launchpad.net/byobu Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] GNU screen
Hi I'm often discovering nifty utilities that I'm embarrassed not to have known about years ago. This week it's GNU screen: http://www.gnu.org/s/screen/ Really useful console window manager, particularly useful for having multiple terminals open on a remote machine, especially as if you lose connection, you can reattach exactly where you left off. Or set a long process running at work, log out and reattach at home. More info at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Netbook recommendations?
On 1 Dec 2011, at 17:13, Terry Coles wrote: [snip] > Best of all, they sell nearly all of their computers OS free, so you won't > have to pay for a crippled version of W7 and then throw it away, like most of > the competition these days. Thanks for all of that. Especially the OS free options - didn't think anybody over here did that anymore! Cheers, Adrian -- http://quietstars.com adri...@quietstars.com twitter.com/adrianh t. +44 (0)7752 419080 skype adrianjohnhoward del.icio.us/adrianh -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Netbook recommendations?
On 1 Dec 2011, at 12:55, Mark Elkins wrote: > Adrian > > Things have moved on and I would suggest that Ubuntu 10.04 (The LTS Version) > will work out of the box in most cases. For example id of wireless cards etc > that previous versions of Ubuntu sometimes struggled with. Good to know - thanks. Adrian -- http://quietstars.com adri...@quietstars.com twitter.com/adrianh t. +44 (0)7752 419080 skype adrianjohnhoward del.icio.us/adrianh -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
