[Dorset] New Year Project

2011-12-28 Thread Clive A Wills

Hi all
Hope you all had a very good Christmas and not too 'stuffed', wish you a 
very happy and hopefully prosperous New Year.


I've decided that one of the projects for next year is to 
re-arrange/re-do my small home network, as I've been having little 
niggles with how it's set up at present; but I do not know enough 
details of networking and making it 'safe'; so here's a request.


Is there anyone on list who is near enough to Wimborne who would be 
willing to come and teach me more about networks while setting up my 
system please?


Ideally it would be either 1 or 2 afternoons or evenings  (I'm retired 
so available!) for a couple of hours; there is also the possibility of 
my next door neighbor also sitting in to learn! So it could be a small 
'workshop' type of situation!


I think most of the problems are in the setting up of the router and 
inter-connections.


Anyone interested please reply off list with possible suggestions or 
dates so I can arrange times ect.


The network contains:
1 desktop PC (Ubuntu 10.10)
2 laptops - Ubuntu 11.10 and old Windows XP( which will be replaced with 
Linux)

Wireless Router ('G' at moment but hope to change to 'N' later)
2 Printers, a HP Laserjet 5P (always on) and a HP Colour all in one 
print, scan  copy (on when required)
The 5P is through a 3 port Edimax print server (2 USB's available) as it 
has a parallel connection; the other is ethernet connected to the router.

At a later date I may like to connect to a new 'smart' TV.

Wireless connection is WEP2 and not broadcast, has MAC address filtering 
enabled but does not have fixed IP's. One problem is that the 2 printers 
often have the same IP address and confusion exists when both are 
switched on!
Talktalk will not give a fixed IP address to the router which is 
switched off to reset connection every 2 months at midnight.

Any other info required please ask.

Any takers?
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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2011-12-28 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011 11:14:30 Simon P Smith wrote:
 The withdrawal of PPN 3/11 is a scandal!
 
 I was using it to try and get some non-M$ products into a government
 project  - looks like that particular prop to my case has been well and
 truly kicked out :(

Can I suggest that you write to your MP and point this out.  By pure 
coincidence, I had just sealed the envelope holding my letter to my MP 
(Annette Brooke) when I saw your post.  I pointed out that the decision 
favours the foreign corporates and disadvantages UK companies.

It can't do any harm.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2011-12-28 Thread Mark Elkins
Simon

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The withdrawal of PPN 3/11 is a scandal!

I was using it to try and get some non-M$ products into a government 
project  - looks like that particular prop to my case has been well and 
truly kicked out :(

Are you willing to supply some more info about this because as far as I know 
HMG still want to use Open Source? For example I am organizing a series of 
internal HM Government events for Senior Civil servants on Open Source as Chair 
of the BCS Open Source SG (OSSG). The first of which will take place in 
February 2012. Therefore your experience sounds like it would be of interest to 
the HMG staff I am dealing with setting up these events. In other words they 
want to know examples about barriers to adoption of Open Source by HMG.

Just for the record I've looked at this recent statement about Open Standards 
and feel its more about getting the statement bullet proof as opposed to 
actually dropping intention to make greater use of (Free and) Open Source. 

Mark Elkins
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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2011-12-28 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011 13:31:52 Mark Elkins wrote:
 Just for the record I've looked at this recent statement about Open
 Standards and feel its more about getting the statement bullet proof as
 opposed to actually dropping intention to make greater use of (Free and)
 Open Source.

Hmm.  You're obviously not as old and cynical as I am.

If the Government simply wanted to make the statement bullet proof, then all 
they needed to do was leave it in place and then issue a clarification as soon 
as they'd completed their 'investigation'.

Instead, they've completely revoked the original Policy:

'This note updates and supersedes Procurement Policy Note 3/11, Use of Open 
Standards when specifying ICT requirements.'

 leaving the situation as it was before PPN 3/11 came out.

given the glacial pace that Government Departments do anything, this gives 
ample opportunity for the corporate lobbyists to get their ducks in a row.

There was nothing wrong with the old Policy statement, so this intervention is 
totally counter-productive.  (Unless you work for a major foreign software 
supplier of course.)

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Re: [Dorset] dorset Digest, Vol 416, Issue 1

2011-12-28 Thread Walter Reed
Clive, I too am interested, retired, Wimborne based.
How about a self help group?

I am reasonably competent with routers, IP addressing and Wifi.
I have limited success with Networking and need to spend a little more time 
there.
How about identifying the problems
1 Ubuntu-Ubuntu
2 Ubuntu-MS      with some mutual research.
 
Regards,
Walter
Ubuntu 11.10, 10.04 LTS, XP  7.
Netbook, Laptop, 2 PCs, NAS Drive (little recent use)





 
   2. New Year Project (Clive A Wills)

Is there anyone on list who is near enough to Wimborne who would be 
willing to come and teach me more about networks while setting up my 
system please?

Ideally it would be either 1 or 2 afternoons or evenings  (I'm retired 
so available!) for a couple of hours; there is also the possibility of 
my next door neighbor also sitting in to learn! So it could be a small 
'workshop' type of situation!

I think most of the problems are in the setting up of the router and 
inter-connections.

The network contains:
1 desktop PC (Ubuntu 10.10)
2 laptops - Ubuntu 11.10 and old Windows XP( which will be replaced with 
Linux)
Wireless Router ('G' at moment but hope to change to 'N' later)
2 Printers, a HP Laserjet 5P (always on) and a HP Colour all in one 
print, scan  copy (on when required)
The 5P is through a 3 port Edimax print server (2 USB's available) as it 
has a parallel connection; the other is ethernet connected to the router.
At a later date I may like to connect to a new 'smart' TV.

Wireless connection is WEP2 and not broadcast, has MAC address filtering 
enabled but does not have fixed IP's. One problem is that the 2 printers 
often have the same IP address and confusion exists when both are 
switched on!
Talktalk will not give a fixed IP address to the router which is 
switched off to reset connection every 2 months at midnight.
Any other info required please ask.





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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2011-12-28 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011 13:47:03 Terry Coles wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011 13:31:52 Mark Elkins wrote:
  Just for the record I've looked at this recent statement about Open
  Standards and feel its more about getting the statement bullet proof as
  opposed to actually dropping intention to make greater use of (Free and)
  Open Source.

I just want to add that PPN 3/11 (or 9/11 come to that) is nothing to do with 
Open Source software.  As the name says, the Policy Note is to do with Open 
Standards, which allows the door to open for Open Source, but there are plenty 
of proprietary solutions that conform to Open Standards.

Gosh.  Even Microsoft could if they wanted to, instead of pretending to.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2011-12-28 Thread Simon P Smith

Mark,

On 28/12/11 13:31, Mark Elkins wrote:


Are you willing to supply some more info about this because as far as 
I know HMG still want to use Open Source? For example I am organizing 
a series of internal HM Government events for Senior Civil servants on 
Open Source as Chair of the BCS Open Source SG (OSSG). The first of 
which will take place in February 2012. Therefore your experience 
sounds like it would be of interest to the HMG staff I am dealing with 
setting up these events. In other words they want to know examples 
about barriers to adoption of Open Source by HMG.
One of the main issues in this department is the insistence on security 
accreditation and the push to use CESG approved products.  The problem 
with OS is that you need time and money to submit the product for 
evaluation and gain some meaningful EAL certification; individual 
projects cannot afford this.  SUSE enterprise and RedHat Enterprise are 
listed there albeit older versions as those organisations can see some 
benefit of funding this.  I wanted to pilot a system on Ubunutu LTS with 
SE and use MySQL (or Postgres) instead of MSSQ;  you end up spending a 
great deal of time showing how it can be (1) secure (2) supportable.


We are in a laughable position where people will, when faced with a need 
for a routing MTA in a DMZ, select exchange and have to put in 2 ADs and 
and exchange box just to provide the MTA; just because you never get 
sacked for usign M$.


I am interested in your BCS events and if you send me the programme I 
will forward it to the Enterprise Architect civil servants for info.


Just for the record I've looked at this recent statement about Open 
Standards and feel its more about getting the statement bullet proof 
as opposed to actually dropping intention to make greater use of (Free 
and) Open Source.


Or also allowing the vested interests to lobby it more to water it down 
- perhaps I am cynical.


Cheers,

Simon

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[Dorset] Wimborne networking event.

2011-12-28 Thread Peter Merchant
On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:48 +, Walter Reed wrote:
 Clive, I too am interested, retired, Wimborne based.
 How about a self help group?
 
 I am reasonably competent with routers, IP addressing and Wifi.
 I have limited success with Networking and need to spend a little more time 
 there.
 How about identifying the problems
 1 Ubuntu-Ubuntu
 2 Ubuntu-MS  with some mutual research.
  
 Regards,
 Walter
 Ubuntu 11.10, 10.04 LTS, XP  7.
 Netbook, Laptop, 2 PCs, NAS Drive (little recent use)

Clive, I suggest that you propose an afternoon date sometime early in
the new year, and make sure that the coffeepot works. 

Off-list I guess, as these other guys won't be interested.

Peter





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